Kapagen Systems - 12v Input Only

[seth]

from 12V dead lead acid car battery it's very possible maybe even to light 100W bulb for a moment

any ideas how?

[vidbid]

Kagagen : 12V Input : More Power Output Is Needed

I have. see video

I did. I think you are better off with

[seth]

I did. I think you are better off with

I spose i could have just bought an inverter...

but i think it was much more fun and educational to build one myself, for free, using wire, sewer pipe, and a couple of bolts i found in the boiler room, following the setup of Naudins kapagen. Much more A team


anyway...what can an inverter do that my kapagen cant??

and where's your kapagen??? show me a joule thief youve built and at least that would be a start!!!

[vidbid]

I spose i could have just bought an inverter...

but i think it was much more fun and educational to build one myself, for free, using wire, sewer pipe, and a couple of bolts i found in the boiler room, following the setup of Naudins kapagen. Much more A team


anyway...what can an inverter do that my kapagen cant??

and where's your kapagen??? show me a joule thief youve built and at least that would be a start!!!

Why don't you use a 12VDC deep-cycle battery and a 12VDC-input NST or a Flyback Transformer to power your Kapagen's output coil? You might have better results powering one incandescent lamp. According to J. L. Naudin's Kapagen Replication Page, Dragon was able to successfully power one incandescent lamp with his 120VAC-input NST. You could replicate his work and substitute a 12VDC-input NST instead of a 120VAC-input NST and probably get the same results.

However, if you are only going to power one incandescent lamp with your 12VDC-input Kapagen, you might as well obtain an inverter and power the three CFLs instead.

[ren]

Sounds good to me mate! 8000 kv NST.....could be fireworks....

I ho, i ho, its off to work we go.......

Wow, 80000000v nst. That's some serious deep fried neon

[TanTric]

Wow, 80000000v nst. That's some serious deep fried neon

.......???

[TanTric]

i dont know about his kapagen setup...

but he allready powered his NST with a 12V battery in his toroid kind of setup!

i think there's no need for the inverter, because will take efficience, i have one that running without load will eat 0.5amps!

Why don't you use a 12VDC deep-cycle battery and a 12VDC-input NST or a Flyback Transformer to power your Kapagen's output coil? You might have better results powering one incandescent lamp. According to J. L. Naudin's Kapagen Replication Page, Dragon was able to successfully power one incandescent lamp with his 120VAC-input NST. You could replicate his work and substitute a 12VDC-input NST instead of a 120VAC-input NST and probably get the same results.

However, if you are only going to power one incandescent lamp with your 12VDC-input Kapagen, you might as well obtain an inverter and power the three CFLs instead.

[wrench76]

I have read all 22 posts, and I dont see any information here about this system.What is the point of this thread anyway?

[vidbid]

12VDC-Input Kapagen Or 12VDC-Input Inverter

i dont know about his kapagen setup...

but he allready powered his NST with a 12V battery in his toroid kind of setup!

That's probably the problem.

i think there's no need for the inverter, because will take efficience, i have one that running without load will eat 0.5amps!

I think in his case, it would be more efficient for him to use an inverter and nothing more except a 12VDC battery, some wires, and three CFLs.

[TanTric]

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this thread is for the guys that are working with the kapagen, but with 12V input only! and to discuss ther ideas and share the setups!

just like everyother thread! hugs

I have read all 22 posts, and I dont see any information here about this system.What is the point of this thread anyway?

[vidbid]

12VDC-Input Kapagen : Request for Substance

I have read all 22 posts, and I dont see any information here about this system.What is the point of this thread anyway?

He's has a point. He wants to see a 12VDC-input Kapagen block diagram, very basic. Provided only for conceptualization. Not intended for actual use. Use at your own risk. See unreferenced image quote below:

DISCLAIMER: The author of this post assumes no liability for any incidental, consequential or other liability from the use of this information. All risks and damages, incidental or otherwise arising from the use or misuse of the information contained herein are entirely the responsibility of the user.

[dragon]

Why don't you use a 12VDC deep-cycle battery and a 12VDC-input NST or a Flyback Transformer to power your Kapagen's output coil? You might have better results powering one incandescent lamp. According to J. L. Naudin's Kapagen Replication Page, Dragon was able to successfully power one incandescent lamp with his 120VAC-input NST. You could replicate his work and substitute a 12VDC-input NST instead of a 120VAC-input NST and probably get the same results.

However, if you are only going to power one incandescent lamp with your 12VDC-input Kapagen, you might as well obtain an inverter and power the three CFLs instead.

That actually worked quite well using a 70 watt inverter to power the NST, still only used 7-8 watts to drive the 40 watt bulb. It took a little more work to get it there but once it was dialed in did quite well. With a grid input, a variac and an adjustable spark gap, the tuning was quite easy in comparison. I like the low voltage input as it could be driven by a single solar panel....

Fun stuff !
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[vidbid]

Kapagen : Dragon Replication

That actually worked quite well using a 70 watt inverter to power the NST, still only used 7-8 watts to drive the 40 watt bulb. It took a little more work to get it there but once it was dialed in did quite well. With a grid input, a variac and an adjustable spark gap, the tuning was quite easy in comparison. I like the low voltage input as it could be driven by a single solar panel....

Fun stuff !

You did good!

[wrench76]

Thank you vidbid so this is basically the same as the 240vac version with an inverter and 12vdc battery? Looks interesting, Ill have to read some more on this.

[TanTric]

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but he allready powered his NST with a 12V battery in his toroid kind of setup!

@dragon so you were really using an inverter in the toroid setup?

@vidbid: romerouk as warn us that the HF/RF will probably kill the inverter, but he refered using the MOT!

so its safe to drive an NST or FLYBACK transformer, with an inverter near this setup?