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  • [QUOTE=woopy;105338]
    What do you thing, any idea to make measurements

    Good luck at all

    Laurent

    Good work. Congratulations.
    With compressed air or pressured water you can close the loop.
    I would prefer water, easy to pressure and mini hydro turbines have an efficiency of over 80%.
    David

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    • Originally posted by lespaul109 View Post
      ok, tested my motor that has two coils. Each produces 8v peak to peak @ 300rpm. My drive motor needs about 3v @ 600mA can some one tell me how to wire both coils using diodes and/or rectifiers and caps to power my DC motor? Color codes are:

      Coil 1: Yellow & Black
      Coil 2: Red & Grey

      thanks,
      jake
      Hi Jake,

      The best circuit for you would be a DC / DC converter because it can have a 85-90% efficiency and gives out a stabilized voltage. It is basically a switch mode power supply.

      However, first you can test an important thing: try to load your stepper motor's two coils output to see how much output power they are able to produce and how much drag it causes to your main motor?

      Just build a full wave rectifier with two diodes like the first schematic in this link shows:
      Full-wave Rectifier

      Of course your coils will connect to A, B and C points in the schematic (they will have one common point of course) instead of the transformer secondary and you have to find the correct phasing for your coils. Not shown in the that schematic a puffer capacitor arcoss the loading resistor symbol, you have to use at least a 470-2200uF 25V electrolytic capacitor to filter the output "half waves". Observe the correct polarity for the electrolytic capacitor. For the diodes you can use almost anything able to handle max 1A, like 1N4001 etc.
      So if your drive motor needs about 1.8W (3V @ 600mA) then your stepper motor output also has to give at least 1.8W or a bit even higher...
      Do not care how many DC output voltage you will measure across your resistor load, just test. Use the P=V*V/R where V=output DC voltage measured across the R load resistor you choose and vary.

      rgds, Gyula
      Last edited by gyula; 07-26-2010, 12:24 PM. Reason: addition

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      • Hi lespaul109 and Matos de Matos Guys if you run out of storage space on the forum you can upload your snap free to ImageShack® - Online Media Hosting

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        • Ok, measured the output of one stepper motor coil through 15ohm resistor. Showed 1V DC across resistor, so not too much power there 0.067W. Today I hope to test my Thane Heins gen.

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          • Originally posted by lespaul109 View Post
            Today I hope to test my Thane Heins gen.
            I'm very interested in that technology and would like to see your project. Would you mind starting a new thread (if you haven't already) about the Heins generator? I think he's really got something there.

            Ted

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            • ok, can you tell me how to start a new one?

              i know it's a rediculous question

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              • Just go out to the main page and look for the button "New Thread" on the left above the "Announcement". That will take you to a page to start a new thread.

                Cheers
                Matt

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                • Hi all
                  @lespaul109
                  The stepper is bipolar,
                  Other config for voltage doubler.
                  Stepper Motor Voltage Doubler Circuit - General

                  Regards
                  Regards
                  http://Cacharreo.com.es/foro

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                  • thanks for all of the ideas everyone!

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                    • Hi Everybody.

                      This is what I think:
                      The mechanical advantage of the wheel is what it is, an exchange of kinetic energy to torque and vice versa.
                      I can not see gain of energy with any combination of load and drive in any of the radius of a balanced wheel or a pendulum.
                      I can not see, either, any advantage of the square of velocity, (1/2mv2), explain by Milkovic on his latter paper.
                      Milkovic arm uses the pendulum “weight”, and takes advantage of the lever effect with different arm lengths.
                      The trajectory of the fulcrum is an ellipse; at same time that is swinging is putting its weight on the arm, alternatively, in each side.
                      It is the same as my proposal of the pendulum water pump, http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...um-hammer.html where an indirect load is applied on the legs.

                      I think that Lespaul shall try to put springs on the legs of his pendulum, drive it with a steady RPM over the center of percussion, and see if will accelerate.
                      If it does we can put some linear to rotary drive (vice) and put some generators on the legs, and “voilá”, an OU.

                      Laurent can include on the arm, instead of pumps, a vice type to drive generators and see if the power out on the arm is higher that the input on the pendulum.

                      Thank you
                      David
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                      • I follow the free energy movement on many forums and nonprofit organizations for quite a long time. I always felt that there is a community of people that really cares and fights for a better future.

                        From Mr. Sterling’s post #64 “Comment from Peter Lindemann” I first time saw the Gravity Assisted Power Pump which’s patent is pending.
                        “He also referred me to some work being done by the people at the Gravity Energy Corporation and their website at Gravity Assisted Power where they are also demonstrating energy gains in a system developed by Bruce Feltenberger.”

                        Half an hour ago I accidentally found a video of this pump that was presented about ten years ago and I wonder what is going on? Is it possible that some people beyond their lofty words are using the ideas and the work of others by simply modifying it a bit in order to gain personal profit out of it?
                        Please correct me if I am wrong…

                        W32
                        W32

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                        • I am pretty sure the 2 stage mechanical oscillator is an open source project. So the Bruce Feltenberger can build off the idea and patent if they want based on the improvements. But there is no mention of this VM oscillator in his patent. In fact he references all the way back to the 1800's.
                          And no one can say for sure he didn't independantly develop his device without knowing about the other.

                          It is a funny thing that it came up though. They are one and the same systems.

                          Matt

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                          • Hi Guys:
                            I finished the drawings of the Bessler wheel of 21st C.
                            http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post105799
                            It is two pendulums 180º off phase that powers a parametric oscillator third pendulum.
                            They are on the same shaft, counter rotating.
                            I think that the gain with the parametric pumping will be superior to the force needed to keep the two pendulums off balance that are winging their weight on the third pendulum reducing its trajectory… and cycles again.
                            All the forces all in the same direction, transformed in different reference frames, and exchanged linearly thru the same shaft.
                            Unfortunately I do not have the conditions to build a prototype.
                            It is Beesler´s legacy that may be solved, deserves an international campaign for prototyping.
                            Thank you
                            David

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                            • Instead of drived, i drawed a driven "Chalkalis type" parametric pumping wheel.
                              Check it out:

                              http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ype-wheel.html

                              Thank you
                              David

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                              • very nice work, but I can't wrap my mind around its functioning yet

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