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  • Originally posted by lespaul109 View Post
    very nice work, but I can't wrap my mind around its functioning yet
    Hi Jake:

    Thank you for the compliment.
    Your prototyping skills have to be applauding, too.

    I posted a schematic with the functioning, may help understand it.

    Did you see the experiment of Harvey in which he does have a gain with a sliding magnet?
    He posted a “must to be reading” information on the
    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ype-wheel.html
    With his idea I idealize a simple device that may work.
    Please check my last post at: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post106525
    Your prototyping skills could volunteer for a physical setup. It is simple and we may have a break trough. The world will be thankful to you.

    Thank you
    David

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    • hey david, which diagram is it that you want to be prototyped?

      jake

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      • Originally posted by lespaul109 View Post
        hey david, which diagram is it that you want to be prototyped?

        jake
        Hi Jake:

        I would like to see the “Chalkalis type wheel” prototyped, it is a lot of work, but I believe that it will be rewarding.

        Can you try the parametric pumping with a sleeve and two elastic weights in a sliding bar, like the attachment?

        Thank you
        David

        Sketch 10.JPG

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        • I did 3 tests to look at the Chalkalis arrangement.

          I tested a flywheel at 1 lbs. I tested a straight pendulum at 1/3 lbs and I tested a triangle that consisted of a 60 degrees of a circle like the Chalkalis pendulum at 1/3 lbs.

          I ran them all at 300 rpms and shut the motor off. same bearing and shaft on all setups.
          Mind you the magnets and coil are all attached even after shut off. they are attached to a separate wheel on the shaft.
          The wheel went an additional 67 rotations until it stopped.
          The straight pendulum went 45 rotations until it stopped
          The 60 degree pendulum went 76 rotations until it stopped.

          I would have to say that a little more inertia is created with this style of pendulum. Or the the kinetic energy is stored longer.

          Matt

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          • Another Variation

            Before I jump in with another variation, it occurs to me that many of you here have built bedini wheels, so to test the Chalkalis concept, why not just take out 2/3 of the wheel magnets and run your wheel out of balance with a tiny stepper motor generator attached to the shaft. You may be able to charge up a couple of cap banks and then switch them to pulse the Bedini circuit, less lenz drag that way.

            Anyway, for the promised Chalkalis variation I have drawn a crappy animation. The idea is a wheel with a number of small motors attached to the rim. The motors drive an unbalanced weight 1/2 rotation at exactly the right moment to pump the main wheel. They then coast the other half of the main wheel rotation with their unbalanced weight resting close to the main wheel axle. Check out the animation (hope it works)

            www.egroup3.com/Wheel.gif
            Last edited by el-tigre; 09-02-2010, 03:30 PM.
            When you pick up a cat by the tail you learn things you cannot learn any other way...

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            • nice off the shelf generator

              Originally posted by lespaul109 View Post
              now is the time when I ask for ideas about how to extract energy(electrical).........anyone
              Hike down to the local surplus store and see if you can lay hands on any 12 volt automotive radiator cooling fan motors. Many of them are actually dc brushless motors that work well as a small generator when turned at less than 1,000 rpm.

              You can rewire some stepper motors out of old printers if you want something smaller or washing machines if you want them bigger.
              When you pick up a cat by the tail you learn things you cannot learn any other way...

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              • Hello world,
                Once again I will remind you that I am neither Mr.Milkovic’s or Mr.Chalkalis’s or anyone else’s attorney, but anyone reading the following posts can understand that the results of my interventions are beneficial for everyone.
                For example, after my post No #206 (07-29-2010) in energetic forum and the reply No #207 of Mr. Matthew Jones appeared a statement on PEWiki’s page on Mr. Feltenberger saying that “It is basically a commercially-available version of Milkovic's secondary oscillation technology.”
                Here are some of my thoughts I would like to share with you:
                Mr. Rickoff ‘s references on the Swinging Gym confirms the operating principle of Mr. Chalkalis Device.
                The properties of the flywheel and wide range of its use is something we all know. Mr. Matthew Jones in his experiment (post No #214) confirms that Mr.Chalkalis 60⁰ triangle is superior compared to common flywheel and in my humble opinion we’ll see it pretty soon in use by industries.
                I myself did another experiment, using a spring scale to count the needed force in order to complete a rotation of the pendulum.
                In the first case, counting from the center of the 50 kg weight at 51cm on the arm and starting at “8 minutes to 12 o’clock” the scale, shows that 20 kg of force are needed in order to complete the rotation.
                In the second case however, when pulling from the end of the arm (lever) at 1.12cm the spring scale shows that only 4.8 kg of force are needed in order to complete the rotation.


                Mr. Chalkalis had the genius idea to add external energy in order to expliot gravity as well as a brilliant driving system to the most ideal point. For that alone he deserves our congratulations on his contribution on the development of overunity.
                In a personal correspondence with Mr. Chalkalis, he expressed his query but also the bitterness about the fact that in various websites, the prevailing opinions are, almost always, of the same individuals while most of the rest tolerate them by keeping silent.
                He actually said: “I donated my innovation and I asked for the contribution of anyone that may help to develop and make it useful. I never expected that I would be criticized so hard for that action.”
                He also added that he cannot understand how is it possible to have the final word on such matters, people with extreme views and people who have built their career by selling books of the works of poor living and deceased inventors.
                Unfortunately I do not have the chance to build a proper clone replica of the system but I am pretty sure that the foundations of Mr F.M.Chalkalis’s invention are of great importance to the exploitation of gravity and I believe that they will find their place in history.
                W32
                W32

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                • Originally posted by W32 View Post
                  Hello world,
                  Once again I will remind you that I am neither Mr.Milkovic’s or Mr.Chalkalis’s or anyone else’s attorney, but anyone reading the following posts can understand that the results of my interventions are beneficial for everyone.
                  For example, after my post No #206 (07-29-2010) in energetic forum and the reply No #207 of Mr. Matthew Jones appeared a statement on PEWiki’s page on Mr. Feltenberger saying that “It is basically a commercially-available version of Milkovic's secondary oscillation technology.”
                  Here are some of my thoughts I would like to share with you:
                  Mr. Rickoff ‘s references on the Swinging Gym confirms the operating principle of Mr. Chalkalis Device.
                  The properties of the flywheel and wide range of its use is something we all know. Mr. Matthew Jones in his experiment (post No #214) confirms that Mr.Chalkalis 60⁰ triangle is superior compared to common flywheel and in my humble opinion we’ll see it pretty soon in use by industries.
                  I myself did another experiment, using a spring scale to count the needed force in order to complete a rotation of the pendulum.
                  In the first case, counting from the center of the 50 kg weight at 51cm on the arm and starting at “8 minutes to 12 o’clock” the scale, shows that 20 kg of force are needed in order to complete the rotation.
                  In the second case however, when pulling from the end of the arm (lever) at 1.12cm the spring scale shows that only 4.8 kg of force are needed in order to complete the rotation.


                  Mr. Chalkalis had the genius idea to add external energy in order to expliot gravity as well as a brilliant driving system to the most ideal point. For that alone he deserves our congratulations on his contribution on the development of overunity.
                  In a personal correspondence with Mr. Chalkalis, he expressed his query but also the bitterness about the fact that in various websites, the prevailing opinions are, almost always, of the same individuals while most of the rest tolerate them by keeping silent.
                  He actually said: “I donated my innovation and I asked for the contribution of anyone that may help to develop and make it useful. I never expected that I would be criticized so hard for that action.”
                  He also added that he cannot understand how is it possible to have the final word on such matters, people with extreme views and people who have built their career by selling books of the works of poor living and deceased inventors.
                  Unfortunately I do not have the chance to build a proper clone replica of the system but I am pretty sure that the foundations of Mr F.M.Chalkalis’s invention are of great importance to the exploitation of gravity and I believe that they will find their place in history.
                  W32
                  I agree, it significant. But as he shows it I am not sure of his Math and COP claims. It is different from a flywheel and straight pendulum, but without building a larger model the true gains it might show probably won't be apparent.
                  I wouldn't have an idea how to overcome that.

                  Matt

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                  • Did you guys give up?

                    Really interesting, but it has been a few months since any posts, anybody have any good suggestions? Is the Tesla Secret any good or is it just junk?
                    http://helping92.igniteinc.biz/

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                    • Great info

                      Originally posted by el-tigre View Post
                      Hike down to the local surplus store and see if you can lay hands on any 12 volt automotive radiator cooling fan motors. Many of them are actually dc brushless motors that work well as a small generator when turned at less than 1,000 rpm.

                      You can rewire some stepper motors out of old printers if you want something smaller or washing machines if you want them bigger.
                      Thanks for making me aware of these. I was hoping to scale up to a 10 inch
                      from a 5 inch fan with my Bedini kit. But might be able to go bigger with one of these. Also probably cheaper if you get one from an auto wrecker.

                      FRC
                      Last edited by FRC; 02-03-2011, 12:33 AM. Reason: spelling

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                      • Hi

                        If I was wanting to replicate this, I would put my time replicating this one instead: Directory:Mikhail Dmitriev Gravity Wheel - PESWiki



                        This is more likely to be COP > 1.

                        Elias
                        Humility, an important property for a COP>1 system.
                        http://blog.hexaheart.org

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                        • For Ted

                          Hi Ted,
                          your device is excellent. It would be possible to place recovery wheel, so that was driven to the axis of the pendulum?
                          Chakalis writes that power should be taken only on the axis.
                          Sorry for my imperfect English. It is not my native language.

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                          • Update on the F.M. Chalkalis Maths PROVED!!!

                            Hello World,
                            It has been a while but I’m back.
                            Hope you’re all good and still hoping for a better world.
                            Dear Matt,
                            To answer your doubts, (post No 218. “I agree, it significant. But as he shows it I am not sure of his Math and COP claims”) I got some Update on the F.M. Chalkalis innovation and the maths proved that everyone wanted.
                            Dr. Kanarev Philip M., a member of the American society NPA, on his article on F.M Chalkalis says that he deserves congratulations and that he buried the Newtonian dynamics as well as electrodynamics of Faraday – Maxwell…
                            Pages are Google translated. Anyone speaking Russian and may translate it better is welcome to contribute…
                            W32
                            W32

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                            • I have defenatly seen a few things out his setup now that are not as one would expect.

                              Thanks for the paper I'll give it a read.

                              Cheers
                              Matt

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                              • Generator

                                Originally posted by lespaul109 View Post
                                now is the time when I ask for ideas about how to extract energy(electrical).........anyone
                                Below is a copy and paste from Sm0ky2 on OU.com

                                "These are standard in any fan-type device that uses mains electricity in the U.S. (and several other countries that have adopted our 120v system)

                                just open them up and pull the motor out.

                                They produce a perfect A/C signal. Output scales up with RPM.
                                this is probably the most efficient generator you will find, and they are free everywhere, from decommisioned devices. i have a lot of them myself, they're great. and like i said before, if you're anywhere in a human-populated area, they will self-excite the coil-field from ambient EMF.

                                you can use a belt-drive to up the RPM off a larger flywheel, many people use these in home-built WindGens.

                                [note:] some of them have a quencher, like seen on this one here, this is basically to prevent sparks from the 120v power lines, when you turn it on. you will want to remove that if you are using it as a generator instead of a motor. not all of them have this."





                                GB
                                Last edited by gravityblock; 06-04-2011, 08:59 AM.

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