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  • Has anybody tried replicating F.M.CHALKALIS ENERGY MULTIPLIER?

    I looked over this thread and I see a lot of theory & advance math (at least it is to me) and the rest. Maybe we should think playground, not physics. Remember the your friend on the swing-set.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong but Isn't this device's advantage all about ACCELERATION?

    Isn't it as simple as less energy required to accelerate a mass that is already being accelerated by gravity.

    That is as long as this device is operating at speeds slower than its terminal viscosity (max free fall speed) it will always take less energy pushing the mass downward to keep it going.


    Example

    The mass moving downward is like a (1lb) Baseball.
    The mass moving upward is like a (10 lbs) Shot-put.
    So could it be as simple as 1 lb baseball takes less energy to accelerate? And that the overall work average output of 5lbs, and a input of 1 lb of work?

    Back to the playground, It is takes a lot less effort to push your friend on the swing downward than it does to left him upward to get the same amount of movement.
    Last edited by Roland; 05-27-2011, 02:25 AM.

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    • Yes I have a small setup 14 lbs . It works. How well I cannot tell or measure but you can spin the pendulum rather fast with just a tap of your hand on every rotation. It is not so easy to stop the shaft it spins on.

      Matt

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      • Harmonic Drive Gearing System

        Originally posted by http://chalkalis.blogspot.com/

        5) Power can be exploited only from the main shaft. It is the most efficient point, because all the forces in such high speeds are consolidated. For example when our rotating weight is located at either 180° or at 320° degrees it has the same amount of power. Besides if we try to get energy from the outer perimeter we will neutralize the properties of the lever.
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        9) Another thought I had but I could not accomplish (experiment with) is that after we have placed it underground to run it with over 1000 rpm and with a gearbox to downgrade it at 200 rpm and then I would connect a generator such as those used in hydro systems.
        A Harmonic Drive System may be the best and simplest solution in exploiting and extracting the power from the main shaft. It has a high speed reduction ratio, zero backlash, high torque capacity, coaxial input and output shafts, and a very high efficiency. The Harmonic Drive can easily exploit the power from the main shaft with it's coaxial input and output design, so it can be connected to a generator.

        Reference Links:

        1.) 3D Introductory Demonstration of the inner workings of the Harmonic Drive System.

        2.) Video - A quick introduction to the Harmonic Drive System.


        3.) Video - High-Speed Robot Hand Incorporating Harmonic Drive.


        4.) Wikipedia - Harmonic Drive

        GB
        Last edited by gravityblock; 06-04-2011, 09:00 AM.

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        • Elimination of the two drive wheels?

          Could a Harmonic Drive System eliminate the two drive wheels at the top? The drive system could be located on the input shaft, while the generator could be attached to the output shaft of the harmonic drive. The input shaft could then provide an impulse at the appropriate time and duration just like the two drive wheels at the top. Another advantage, is we wouldn't need to provide an impulse from the input shaft on every cycle or for the full duration when the generator isn't under a full load, thus making it more efficient while maintaining a constant RPM regardless of load. When the input shaft isn't providing an impulse, then it could be used as a generator in addition to the full-time generator on the output shaft. There's a 100% impedance match between the coaxial input/output shafts due to the way they are coupled together for a 100% transfer of energy, unlike the impedance mis-match between the two drive wheels and the main shaft of the pendulum (when the pendulum makes contact with the two drive wheels, they don't make contact at the same speed or have the same relative momentum and there will be a bounce against the main shaft, which equates to a loss of energy). Eliminating the two drive wheels at the top, would eliminate most of the noise generated by the device. The continuous wear and tear on those two drive wheels at the top is a weak spot IMO. I doubt it would last 1 week running 24/7 under a full load (the two drive wheels is good for a proof of concept only). The coaxial input/output shafts on the harmonic drive system would make it easier to close the loop for a self-runner.

          Eliminating the two drive wheels would allow smaller scale models to be built for testing purposes; since the impact, shock, vibration, and the noise will no longer be a factor for the design to withstand these unwanted forces. Heavier weights could be used to make it even more powerful, since most of the unwanted forces are eliminated and will no longer be a major factor in tearing the machine apart at higher RPM's.

          GB
          Last edited by gravityblock; 06-04-2011, 09:00 AM.

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          • Gravity represents potential energy

            Gravity represents in fact potential energy. It's there if you've already put the work into making it there. There's energy in a bowling ball at the top of a tower if you've already hauled it up there. Once you use that energy, it's gone until you haul it back up again. If you change Chalkalis motors motion with impulses you obtain the same effect.

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            • Time also represents potential energy!

              Originally posted by tutanka View Post
              Gravity represents in fact potential energy. It's there if you've already put the work into making it there. There's energy in a bowling ball at the top of a tower if you've already hauled it up there. Once you use that energy, it's gone until you haul it back up again. If you change Chalkalis motors motion with impulses you obtain the same effect.
              The shortest distance between Point A and Point B is a straight line, but the shortest time between Point A and Point B is a curve if the impulse is utilized to it's fullest potential. In the below image, the middle path wins and not the straight path nor the path which dips the lowest. The image was taken from this video on how to utilize the impulse to it's fullest potential. It is the product of the force and the time for which it is applied that is important (the impulse). All three paths in the below image each have the same net fall, so the potential energy should be equal for all three paths, but this isn't the case, because the ball which travels the greatest distance in the shortest amount of time had to have acquired more total kinetic energy than the balls on the other paths. Where did this additional kinetic energy come from? It came from the Time Potential, and Time itself is directly related to the impulse. Here's another video showing the longest path wins, even though they have the same net fall and the same gravitational potential. It should be obvious there is another potential at play here, other than the gravitational potential. This other potential is the Time Potential.

              The two drive wheels in Chalkalis's design is providing an additional impulse in addition to the impulse provided by gravity. The harmonic drive system can also be used to provide an impulse in addition to gravity, just like the two drive wheels. The harmonic drive system will greatly out-perform the two drive wheels, without any question (If you or anyone else can prove me wrong on this, then I won't make another post to this forum).

              GB

              Last edited by gravityblock; 06-04-2011, 09:00 AM.

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              • Impulse

                There's a reason why Chalkalis wanted to gear it down, and it's because he understood the impulse. A gear reduction is equivalent to a wheel with a larger radius in regards to the impulse. A larger radius wheel means the gravitational force can be applied over a greater amount of time as compared to a smaller radius wheel, and this equates to more of the Time Potential being converted into kinetic energy, in addition to the kinetic energy developed from the gravitational potential. This also applies to the impulse generated by the drive system. The weights will need to be increased in the same ratio as the gear reduction in order to exploit the two impulses to their fullest potential.

                It is the product of the force and the time for which it is applied that is important (the impulse). The videos on the impulse helps to visualize this. Mathematics isn't needed to understand this concept, and it's not needed to understand Chalkalis Gravity System either.

                GB
                Last edited by gravityblock; 06-04-2011, 09:01 AM.

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                • gravity and impulses

                  Is my opinion that Chalkalis have used motor wheels for mechanical semplicity but using an impulse you save a lot of energy. Normally the impulse is conditioned from the time, for that reason I don't have specify that variable.
                  Gravity is an great energy that don't have polarity as we are conditioned like positive or negative as electric field or nord and sud as magnetic field. In fact is an neutral energy that charge the mass. Chalkalis video is an great example as gravity can be used for generated OverUnity mechanical work and that can be used similarry an motor.

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                  • I like those high road low road demo's, they tend to support Chalkalis claims.
                    YouTube - ‪1D15.20 - High Road, Low Road‬‏
                    YouTube - ‪high road low road 1‬‏
                    YouTube - ‪High Road Low Road Race‬‏

                    I wonder about Chalkalis device at the higher RPMS. It would seem that at a certain RPM you would start getting diminishing returns. As the speeding weights reach terminal velocity, i would think at that point gravity would stop playing any additional role.
                    Last edited by Roland; 05-30-2011, 10:51 PM.

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                    • Gravity may be a pushing force!

                      Originally posted by tutanka View Post
                      Gravity is an great energy that don't have polarity as we are conditioned like positive or negative as electric field or nord and sud as magnetic field. In fact is an neutral energy that charge the mass.
                      Textbooks teach there is a pulling or attractive force between two objects. Dr. Ricardo Carezani's experiment (Video) suggests with a high statistical probability that the two objects are actually repelled or pushed towards each other. If this is the case, then gravity isn't a neutral energy charging the mass. I believe this force can be inverted to repel two objects away from each other under the right conditions. Carezani's experiment is relatively simple to replicate. Different conditions could easily be tested, along with testing objects that are non-spherical, such as the force between a mass with a parabolic curve, ")" or "(", and a spherical mass, etc.

                      GB
                      Last edited by gravityblock; 06-04-2011, 09:01 AM.

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                      • ghost energy

                        We are in presence of an ghost energy, in fact is present from the birth of earth.
                        If you think all is based on gravity and gravity is present in our life.
                        Is similarry to gasoline, we are born with gasoline and we can't live without that. What I want ask is that gravity is more than a force, if used properly can supply to our energetic problem. If electrical impulses and gravity works togheter can generate electricity without using any power as an internal combustion engine. That is been tested and work!

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                        • Prof.Kanarev and Chalkalis

                          Prof. Kanarev, great russian scientist, have understand as gravity energy can be used in association with an standard electric motor using impulses. Here you can found how Prof. Kanarev have analyzed Chalkalis pendulum with mathematically method for calculation of right OU value The Pendulum of F.M. Chalkalis – the talented inventor. In fact that is simple but working method for the creation of yours independent electrical energy for use in your home, car, etc...

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                          • F.M.CHALKALIS "THANK YOU" Saturday, June 25, 2011

                            Hello World,

                            well, looks like there are some earth shaking news....
                            As usual i'll be the one to post Mr. Chalkalis new letter for the forum

                            Saturday, June 25, 2011

                            A Big Thank You!
                            A year following the donation of my innovation, reviewing everything, I feel obliged to thank every fellow-combatant fighting for a better future.

                            In the process there were some people as Mr.Rickoff who saw that my innovation practically works and tried repeatedly and with great enthusiasm to explain it unfortunately unsuccessfully.

                            On the other hand, there were also some people with sterile minds and extreme points of view who by no means can represent the Over-Unity quest. These people tried to blacken my work and present me as irrational by making strange and ridiculous questions such as:
                            “If it works, then why didn’t he finish it before donating it?”
                            Like I was obligated to deliver them something complete.
                            “Why didn’t he use a “car generator” in order to output electricity?”
                            They also claimed to have built replicas which did not work, trying blatantly to prevent anyone from dealing with it.

                            Well, Gentlemen as I have previously written I wasn’t able to complete my work for personal reasons. Moreover, anyone must know how demanding as well as costly this kind of perennial experiments are.
                            Today, without the fear of being misinterpreted, I can tell you that I am just a private person working from the garage of my home. Whatever I have achieved was done through personal work and personal funding. With the firm belief that, for all the great monuments in our history, only gravitation could have provided the necessary energy.


                            I would like to express my gratitude for all your help.
                            Your articles and your interest led to learn about it worldwide.
                            Resulting, people who see beyond the taught physics, to look into it and to provide the scientific proves and documentation of the Fundamental Operating Principle of my innovation.
                            I will only mention two of them who with their ideas really helped the further development of my device.
                            The great russian scientist Dr.F.M.Kanaref
                            PENDULUM F. M. Chalkalis - a talented inventor
                            And the gentleman with the nickname Gravity Blog in energeticforum.com

                            I also present some improvement instructions.
                            In the prototype there is a radius (blade) of 112 cm which translates to
                            diameter =224cm. Thus a perimeter of 703cm. The contact points of the pulse transmission of movement are in total 6cm (2x3 cm).This means that only in the 0.85% of the perimeter of the cycle we give this little energy that we need. However, in the existent system the motors continue to work during the whole rotation.
                            We could use a pneumatic system in order to consume power only on a pulse strike on every rotation.
                            Or as proposed by GravityBlog, aharmonic drive system.
                            Which looks ideal however I do not know how much it would cost either how much energy it would consume to give us a strike of 5 kg in each rotation.

                            All these years that I have been dealing with it through many different experiments, I have seen so many things that the only fact I may tell with certainty is that a rotating body especially in free fall acceleration is for me an unexplored aspect of physics.
                            Really important role is played by the size of the body (mass), the way it is being pushed, the way it is connected to the main shaft , etc.
                            A special material as light as possible that connects the body to the shaft gives much better results. As far as getting energy is concerned, I insist on the main shaft but I am not sure of the ideal solution :
                            The pulse generator that many suggest today and as has already been referred to by n84dafun almost a year ago.
                            Or the use of a harmonic drive as proposed by GravityBlog which sounds really interesting though I do not know many things about.

                            There have been many reports concerning the noise of the machine. The noise comes from the wooden structure of the system and the hard tires that have been used. If the chassis was made of metal the noise will be eliminated.

                            Many times I have read about little replicas and I have seen enough that bring no similarity to the specifications of the prototype. Do not waste your time in vain.

                            Dear Roland although your thought is very interesting, the speed that something like that could happen is incredibly high and most likely unrealistic for our construction.

                            A special thanks to Mr.Ash (panacea-bocaf.org) and to Mr. Sterling D. A. (peswiki.com) for their help on making it known.

                            I wish you all Health and Peace.

                            F.M.Chalkalis
                            I apologize for my poor English. It is not my native language.


                            My congratulations to Mr. F.M.Chalkalis and to all of us that believed in his kind donation. A year after, like a birthday gift, we do have the proves that over-unity exist in his device. kudos!!!
                            Last edited by W32; 06-27-2011, 05:26 AM. Reason: mistyped hyperlinks fixed.
                            W32

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                            • Mr. Chalkalis's letter

                              Originally posted by F.M.Chalkalis
                              I would like to express my gratitude for all your help.
                              Your articles and your interest led to learn about it worldwide.
                              Resulting, people who see beyond the taught physics, to look into it and to provide the scientific proves and documentation of the Fundamental Operating Principle of my innovation.
                              I will only mention two of them who with their ideas really helped the further development of my device.
                              The great russian scientist Dr.F.M.Kanaref
                              PENDULUM F. M. Chalkalis - a talented inventor
                              And the gentleman with the nickname Gravity Blog in energeticforum.com

                              I also present some improvement instructions.
                              In the prototype there is a radius (blade) of 112 cm which translates to
                              diameter =224cm. Thus a perimeter of 703cm. The contact points of the pulse transmission of movement are in total 6cm (2x3 cm).This means that only in the 0.85% of the perimeter of the cycle we give this little energy that we need. However, in the existent system the motors continue to work during the whole rotation.
                              We could use a pneumatic system in order to consume power only on a pulse strike on every rotation.
                              Or as proposed by GravityBlog, a harmonic drive system. Which looks ideal however I do not know how much it would cost either how much energy it would consume to give us a strike of 5 kg in each rotation.
                              Thanks W32 for posting Mr. Chalkalis's letter. It looks like I owe Mr. Chalkalis a replication attempt with a harmonic drive system integrated into his device.

                              I'll more than likely collect data with a home-made Dynamometer using an old scroll usb mouse to simultaneously measure Torque and RPM. A dynamometer, is a device for simultaneously measuring torque and rotational speed (rpm). Here's detailed information on how to build the home-made Dynamometer from an USB mouse. The free software continuously plots RPM, Torque, and Power. It can export torque and power Vs. RPM curves to excel in .csv format. This hack is good to calculate the torque during acceleration. I've already tested this idea along with the software, and it does work.

                              GB

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                              • Pneumatic system

                                Originally posted by F.M.Chalkalis
                                However, in the existent system the motors continue to work during the whole rotation.
                                We could use a pneumatic system in order to consume power only on a pulse strike on every rotation.
                                This device may convert centrifugal force into a rotation (video). Here's the same device using a pneumatic control (video) to provide rotation. For additional information, please visit the inventor's website.

                                The above is only being presented to show some of the possibilities which may exist. I'm not sure how well this would work if combined with Mr. Chalkalis's device, but I do find it interesting to think about. The pneumatic control system by itself is a good idea though.

                                GB

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