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  • #46
    Originally posted by Savvypro View Post
    Has anyone ever come across circuits which use Signal/Quantum non-locality to communicate with each other.
    I know this is going to sound like I'm trying to be a smart ass,
    but all and every living cell already does that in real time
    (Way way faster than light).

    when these are split apart
    and seperated large distances,
    the interaction is as instant
    as can be measured currently.

    Many things can travel faster than light.
    The light speed limitation has to do with mass.
    Many particles have zero mass.

    An acceleration of 1G for 1 year will yield light speed...

    Question is,
    natural telepathy we already forgot hot to use,
    or a computer connected to a plant somehow...

    Seeing as we didn't come with an instruction manual,
    we seek life long for answers to these things it seems.

    Quantum antenna's are the current rage,
    military has used them for years I'm sure...
    (See US patent 6,025,810, etc.)

    But if this goes viral in the everday communication community,
    how, dare I say, will they turn THIS off I must wonder?

    And to what detriment if they do figure out how to turn it off
    wil it be to all other life that shares this method of interaction ?

    Things to ponder:
    Quantum Non-Locality
    Superluminal polarization current
    Google Search
    www.ejtp.com/articles/ejtpv5i18p105.pdf
    www.ejtp.com/articles/ejtpv5i18p109.pdf
    Last edited by WeThePeople; 08-06-2010, 11:14 PM.

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    • #47
      Hi there...I am a HAM radio operator. Before there was the internet I use to use a digital radio system to send files and emails and see the BBS. There are several ways...there is live chat like skype that is done it RTTY, Packet Radio, Amtor (my favourite) and several others. There is also email! This system used short wave radios and/or VHF. It was the ancestor of the internet. it is still widly used today...for people that just don;t live near the web...like on sail boats, remote lodges and 3rd world countries. There are simple systems and very complex ones also for gear... Get your Amateur radio licence and enjoy a NET that can not be shut down.

      Karl


      Originally posted by everwiser View Post
      Have any enterprising Ham radio operators come up with a way to send data and network via shortwave? It would seem this would be an alternative. Although the airwaves are supposedly well regulated, I'd bet enforcement would be a bear...

      @MJN. You're right but, push come to shove, the force of government and its extension, the modern military, could cause a lot of problems. Who would have said 50 years ago that our government would/could suspend Habeas Corpus and torture whoever they deem to be an "enemy combatant" and/or authorize the assassination of U.S. citizens by Presidential order/decree?

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Karl_Palsness View Post
        There are several ways...
        there is live chat like skype that is done it RTTY,
        Packet Radio, Amtor (my favourite) and several others.
        There is also email!
        This system used short wave radios and/or VHF.
        Very true,
        and VLF frequencies are still used daily
        to pentrated our oceans to submarines
        using the same idea, just slower datarates.

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        • #49
          Global Scaling

          Originally posted by Savvypro View Post
          Has anyone ever come across circuits which use Signal/Quantum non-locality to communicate with each other.
          Global Scaling is related to that. There are some German groups experimenting
          with "scalar" communication systems. Theoretically infinite distance
          communication with extremely low power. A friend told me about this
          when he met them in Germany - was about 6 years ago.

          Another friend mentioned something similar in Germany as well.

          Global Scaling Theory
          Sincerely,
          Aaron Murakami

          Books & Videos https://emediapress.com
          Conference http://energyscienceconference.com
          RPX & MWO http://vril.io

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Savvypro View Post
            The ban list has been leaked, some of the banned sites (up to 10,000 in number) include ones which don't follow the government line (as in, give an opposing view), sites about gay rights, as well as the websites of a tour operator and a dentist. It's basically suppressing freedom of speech/ideas/information, disguised as saving the children from porn.

            The following article includes they following interesting quote: Secret forum reveals Oz firewall backroom dealing • The Register




            On the kill switch itself: if they are going to allow a small number of organisations to continue to operate, then it's going to be very difficult to actually implement it in the first place - let alone continue to keep the "lights off".

            Doing it on a small scale is possible, but on hundreds of thousands of networks (more like millions), which are all interlinked and interdependent - it's going to be damn near impossible. Just so you know, I’m speaking from experience as a network guy - with lots of experience running large scale networks.

            Its more hype and BS - than facts, with no thought of what it will do economically.

            Maybe time to start setting up old school BBS, but with a modern twist.

            First, on the censorship issue. People in power are completely ignorant of how the internet works. They say stupid stuff all the time. And any censorship law is completely stupid. There will always be ways around it all, end of story. Look at China, various middle eastern countries, and a few others. If anyone is going to do anything stupid (like terrorist acts, or overthrowing a government), only the stupid ones will do it where they can be easily traced. And even then, they are probably too incompetent to do anything anyway. All the censorship does is make it to where only people competent enough to do (whatever) will do it, making any counter-terrorism/counter-espionage (and so on) that much harder to track and enforce. Having to do that, increases likelihood that people on the verge will decide to go through with those things. The desired world they're trying to create becomes that much further away. Also look at drugs. They made them illegal, and now there are far more users and abusers (absolute, percentage-wise, and by every other measure) than there ever have been. They created a huge area for profit, and effectively gave criminals a monopoly with extremely high returns. That translates into huge motivation to get into the drug trade, and does not come close to dissuading it.

            That list is here: the leaked list, now in the public domain

            an update here (which shows that they added the original list to their new list, lmfao): the list, v 2

            Australia has been busy, as can be seen by its large assortment of files: wikileaks' australia page

            So, as all of us citizens already knew, centralized control of such things can only have negative effects. Every case that has ever been has been a great case study example. When will they learn? I was really surprised to see Australia, which used to be a free country, go to censorship. Now they have no guns or free speech. What's next? Australia has really became the crap hole of the free world (if it can still be considered part of the gang...).

            Plus, the internet isn't that easy to shut down. It was made with multiple main nodes to withstand all-out hydrogen bomb attacks. After all, we made it as a bastion of free speech that nobody can take away. The thought of it being used as a tool of censorship goes against the very foundation of human rights.

            Wikileaks itself is a good example. The US government tried to shut it down once (the only way it can, by deleting the domain registration). Of course, it was still easily accessed by connecting directly to its IP address. They quickly reversed its deletion, though. There were also other efforts to kill it: one plan by a section of the us government that wanted it destroyed, and a plan to do so

            Even if censorship like that was possible, it would absolutely be abused. The aussies' internet censorship list is a good example (as all such lists are). It was claimed for one thing, then they expanded it without permission or approval to include things for their own personal goals. This will always happen, and it will always get progressively worse. It is human nature. That simple fact is more than reason enough not to consider it. In fact, any of the reasons discussed so far (along with more) would each be more than reason enough not to do it.

            That being said, as far as the internet shutoff switch issue goes, it's probably just one of those joke articles (like the onion news network). It is such a stupid suggestion, and obviously blatantly unconstitutional. Even if they made a law, it could not be enforced because it is unconstitutional. The people of this country simple never gave the government that privilege. Even if it weren't, it is not practical. The only way to effectively do it would be to shut down all power from all the power stations in the US. Then, once batteries go down, pretty much only people left able to communicate will be people with generators and HAM radios. Communications companies have generators for their towers/repeaters and whatnot, so those would have to go as well. Speaking of HAM radios, for those without a license, if you get one you can get "emergency" plates for your vehicle. (Why? because, like I said, in an emergency like that, HAM operators might be the only ones able to communicate.) They are really easy to get also.
            Last edited by gasman; 08-07-2010, 06:03 AM.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by WeThePeople View Post
              Many things can travel faster than light.
              The light speed limitation has to do with mass.
              Many particles have zero mass.

              An acceleration of 1G for 1 year will yield light speed...
              with your post, I don't even know where to begin.

              For instance, with the quoted section. Light is pure energy-- it has no mass, and travels at the speed of light. Yes, many particles have no mass, as there are many particles of light (aka photons). There are Gluons, but they aren't really an issue in this topic because they only travel within the confines of a trivial space. In other words, you aren't going to shoot a gluon out through space for transportation or communication.

              And I don't know where you get some of your assumptions. With you 1g for 1 year statement, for example, you make several false assumptions. 1. that it is even possible for mass to reach light speed. 2. that light speed is well in access of 300k m/s (which is false) and 3. that mass will accelerate in a linear fashion up to the speed or light.

              The fasts are, 1. mass cannot reach the speed of light, as it is not pure energy. 2. light itself simply doesn't travel that fast. 3. kinetic energy varies with the square of speed. In other words, the faster you get, the more energy it takes to accelerate further, and it would infinite energy to reach light speed... which is impossible. And it would suck and the receiving end because they would have to invest just as much energy into the mass to slow it down again. For it to be effective, you would have to convert the mass into pure energy, then transmit it, then convert that pure energy back into mass. It would take a tremendous amount of energy. The chances that you would end up with every photon going back to the exact atom and molecule it was in before, in the exact correct position, at the exact right time... is basically impossible. At best you would get something that looks and acts exactly like what you want, but made up with different matter. For communications (our topic) it doesn't matter, but for teleportation it does. The thing is that for communication there is just no need for teleportation. Current technologies already transceive light. So why worry about transporting mass for communication in the first place? Teleportation for communication is a moot point. It would be a bit like using hydrogen bombs for sending Morse code across a road. So I really don't know what you were trying to get at with that.

              The rest of your post is just... huh?... I'm just going to suggest google for you, as you will need a lot of studying to get you up to speed on those subjects.

              Also, FWIW, classified technology, and technology generally of a military or national security interest, are not patented. It would pretty much defeat the purpose of the classification system.. and national security, for that matter. In general, if (wtf ever you're trying to do) was *that* simple, it would have been done already. Most technologies are far past the age of accidental monumental discoveries (though some are not). But for energy, the time is long gone. So yeah, if you're looking to work with advanced technologies... join the military or civilian organization associated with technology in your desired field. You won't find anything in the patent office, lmao. And if you're thinking of working on that type of technology outside of the government... you're wasting your time/life. Well, unless you're loaded, that is. If you are, you can just pay a bunch of nerds with the right certs/clearances to figure the stuff out for DARPA projects or something. But if you are loaded, screw the energy field. Go into bioengineering. just my $.02
              Last edited by gasman; 08-09-2010, 05:33 AM.

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              • #52
                Looks like Signatures did it here in Australia to stop out filter.
                I guess my post was useful after all

                Dear Ashtweth,

                We won!

                Late last night the Coalition announced it won't be voting for an internet filter that censors the web. This comes after the Government responded to our campaign by deferring the filter until 2012 (with the likelihood that the filter will never come back in its current form).

                With independent Senator Nick Xenophon, the Greens and now the Coalition all walking away from the ineffective policy of censoring the internet, there is now no way for the Senate to pass this scheme.

                This is your victory. Thank you!
                Check out what we did together -- and hear about the ongoing global fight here:http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/SaveTheNet&id=1274

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                • #53
                  About | Access

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                  • #54
                    Bug Crashed 1% of Internet

                    IDG News Service - An experiment run by Duke University and a European group responsible for managing Internet resources went wrong Friday, disrupting a small percentage of Internet traffic.
                    Research experiment disrupts Internet, for some - Computerworld

                    Some Conclusions
                    The experiment caused a massive increase in routing instability, but with different strength in different locations. It caused about three times more prefixes to have periods of invisibility, for longer periods. In total, up to 1.4% of the Internet was affected by instability around the time of the experiment.
                    The DNS servers for vital Internet infrastructure, such as the root and TLDs were not widely affected.

                    https://labs.ripe.net/Members/erik/r...bgp-experiment

                    DG News Service - Cisco has fixed a bug in its IOS (Internetwork Operating System) router software that contributed to a brief Internet blackout last week, thought to have affected about 1% of the Internet.
                    Cisco patches bug that crashed 1% of Internet - Computerworld

                    Al

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