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  • #91
    Electrical Parameters of Ferrites

    According to this Russian forum, the SR193 involves warming of the ferrite cores.

    See Electrical Parameters of Ferrites

    Source: Next Energy Forum, Post 155 by Alien
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    • #92
      Homemade Magnetic Amplifiers

      Alex on Next Energy Forum thought this video was important.



      Homemade Magnetic Audio Amplifier.

      Source: Alex, Next Energy Forum, Post 210
      Last edited by vidbid; 03-23-2011, 12:08 AM. Reason: HTML
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      • #93
        Wtr100w220v

        Interesting video ferrite transformer

        12v to 220v 100w

        amazing
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        • #94
          Critical Admission about the So-called Detachable Coil / Secondary

          I believe that it is possible that Crazy Alex could possibly be SR193. I have heard that it is possible that the admin of Next Energy forum, Crazy Alex, and SR193 is one and the same person.

          So take a look at this message of his:



          If that is true, this admission about one of the secondary windings is critical, I believe, for the same thing is mentioned in the Andrey Melnichenko video that I mentioned earlier. The split double e-core was utilized, and the claim was made by them that the secondary core had a geometry that caused it not to draw much current from the primary. Also, it was stated that the secondary circuitry was designed to prevent back emf from being induced from the secondary back to the primary.

          Source: Admin, Next Energy forum, Message 1
          Last edited by vidbid; 03-30-2011, 03:15 AM. Reason: HTML
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          • #95
            Vidbid Design

            Here's how I might build my output coil based on what I have learned. I know it is different from the SR193 design.



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            • #96
              Another Video of Kapanadzes Device where he use 4 Coils.
              Kapanadze ARTE - EnergeticTube.com*-* Where technology goes LIVE!
              They dont say a lot there, only that he still disclose it, because hes scared about that he get ripped him off.
              At the wooden Box is the Circuit.
              Even when i think that Andrey Melnichenko is not complete really trustworthy, because hes a Banker and one from the richest Guys in Russia, and his Effect he do explain more looks like, it is only a additional Induction to the main Coil, it may makes sense, when you seperate the Pickup Coil. I only dont think, you can reach at his way from A.M 140%. He maybe did add at his calculation one Lamb, what runs at the closed Circle plus the one from the Induction, and therefor got more Power, else, the 2nd Lamb should have been way brighter as the Lamb No1.
              Well i ordered now iron oxid, Fe3o4, and still got some expoxy resin, want to take 2 Tubes, cut 2 Spacer rings, put the Tubes into eachother with the Spacers, and fill it with the Expoxy, and should get my Cores.
              But i still got no clue how to complete this Circuit, the Arrangement of the Coils are still not clear to me.
              My Guess was more, that the HV Coil fills up the big Coil, what is connected to the Magnetic Amplifier.
              The Cirucuit is a clever Way there, to increase the Capacitance from the Primary and move the Load in there.
              I am even not sure, if a Spark is really needed, i think, the Spark is mainly to increase the Frequency of interruptions, but its not like, that it takes additional Energy from the Enviroment, but else, it may runs at a more higher Frequency.
              The Problem at this is allways other Devices, what get disturbed from an open Spark, and may thats why we got the almost crappy Transistors for such kind of experiments.
              Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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              • #97
                The Spark Gap

                Originally posted by Joit View Post
                ... I am even not sure, if a Spark is really needed, i think, the Spark is mainly to increase the Frequency of interruptions, but its not like, that it takes additional Energy from the Enviroment, but else, it may runs at a more higher Frequency.
                The Problem at this is allways other Devices, what get disturbed from an open Spark, and may thats why we got the almost crappy Transistors for such kind of experiments.
                Personally, I think the spark gap is critical. It's the radiant aspect that brings in the extra energy. It seems to me that everyone who was ever successful in producing over-energy utilized a spark gap: SR, TK, EV Gray, Tesla, with the exception of Bob Teal who still captured the Back-EMF and burned it off in light bulbs.

                I believe that power is resulted when the spark is quenched. I heard that then radiant particles are emitted from the more positive anode of the CSET in the case of EV Gray. These radiant particles charge the grid of the CSET causing electrons to be emitted from the grid which are channeled to ground through a step-down transformer which can power a load.

                Using a spark gap is like using a machine gun that fires mini-EMPs. (Electro-Magnetic Pulses) The solid-state components can't handle them and fry. If memory serves, that's why EV Gray went back to using mechanical multivibrators until he found out that industrial-grade SCRs that were rugged enough to survive the radiant charging, so he could use them in his power supplies.



                PS: I wanted to mention that I believe (I'm speculating here so do your own research) you may be able to make Fe3o4 using Sodium Carbonate, water, electricity and two pieces of cast iron. Don't use anything other than cast iron. For example, stainless steal will produce toxic Chromium compounds. See YouTube video: Cleaning Cast Iron by Electrolysis. If it is Fe3o4 or some other type of iron oxide which is affected by magnetism, you should be able to pull it out of solution with a magnet. By the way, if you can't get your hands on some Sodium Carbonate, also know as washing soda, I heard that you can make it by putting some baking soda (Sodium Bicarbonate) in an oven at 450 degrees Fahrenheit for about an hour. But be careful. Fe3o4 is used in making Thermite which can produce a highly exothermic oxidation-reduction reaction, which means once ignited, it will burn through steel.
                Last edited by vidbid; 03-24-2011, 09:53 AM. Reason: Additional Material
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                • #98
                  Originally posted by vidbid View Post
                  Personally, I think the spark gap is critical.
                  Well, ok lets stay by this. I only can guess also, and it's may better, to stay close as you can at one build.

                  I got my Ironoxide over Ebay, it is actually cheap, 2 kg for about 5€, or 4,4 Pounds for 7$,
                  but i think, i can maybe get it from a local store also.
                  It is used as pigment for stones or cement and is magnetic, allready tried it, and it is called Magnetite.
                  Even when it seems like its some lesser magnetic as a pice of Ferrit but maybe it is, because Ferrit is pressed at the Form. I dont know, when i do make the Core, and whatelse with it, but it dont looks to bad at all.
                  Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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                  • #99
                    I will tell you something which may be of utmost importance, still theoretical however.

                    Free yourself from idea that electric current is responsible for COP<1 in our circuits. It is the way we treat the dipole when shorting voltage. Electrons are little magnets which are not "used by" and always ready and happy to do work.
                    SR device just eliminate lenz rule by not allowing shorting source when magnetic flux reaches load on secondary.Back EMF supression that all we need. Then any small DC-DC converter and large capacitor or small parametric oscillator can give required initial current impulse of needed level, or in case of really brilliant assembly - positive feedback will grow energy like in Sweet VTA.
                    Read Vladimir Utkin document, it is marvelous work !

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                    • SR193-Inspired Device: &quot;Y Module&quot;

                      Originally posted by boguslaw View Post
                      I will tell you something which may be of utmost importance, still theoretical however.

                      Free yourself from idea that electric current is responsible for COP<1 in our circuits. It is the way we treat the dipole when shorting voltage. Electrons are little magnets which are not "used by" and always ready and happy to do work.

                      SR device just eliminate lenz rule by not allowing shorting source when magnetic flux reaches load on secondary. Back EMF suppression that all we need. Then any small DC-DC converter and large capacitor or small parametric oscillator can give required initial current impulse of needed level, or in case of really brilliant assembly - positive feedback will grow energy like in Sweet VTA.

                      Read Vladimir Utkin document, it is marvelous work !
                      I agree. Though, still theoretical, as well. My observation is that the SR193 device is using several over-energy aspects.

                      (1) SR calls it a detachable secondary coil without inducing back-emf back to the primary coils. Simple enough to do, they say. (A.) Place a diode inline with the secondary coil and its load. (B.) Have two ferrite cores. One for the primary coils and one for the secondary coil. Both ferrite cores are separated by an air gap. See the Andrey Melnichenko video on how to do that.

                      (2) The radiant aspect as evidenced by the spark gap. Enough said on that.

                      I believe SR could pull more energy out of the device and lower the device's heating issues if he would deal with the back-EMF from the LV modulator coils. Basically, I think that he could do it by placing a regenerative snubber on each of his modulator coils. I know some people will say he is only using one LV modulator coil, but I believe he is currently using two. Though, the evidence of it is obscured by the blue tape. You can see where he used two LV modulator coils in SR's earlier device videos.

                      I'm going to try my hand at building my own device which I am calling the "Y Module", but it will be somewhat different from SR193's design. I intend to tackle the back-emf and step it down and make it available to the input in addition to what is already available to the input from the secondary. To do that, I will use a basic inverter design similar to this astable multivibrator-based design that I found online but which I will modify. Then I intend to take the back-emf from the coil using two Imhotep Relay Charger type-of-circuits. Then I recombine each half of the wave by sending them to a split-coil step-down transformer. Any back-EMF from that transformer's halves will either be heat-dissipated though a resistor diode combination or directed to diode-capacitor-diode combination and then channeled off and stored as HVDC.

                      I still plan to use a flyback transformer for the spark gap radiant event to be applied on to primary HV coil.

                      My device might actually use four ferrite cores: two sets of primaries and two sets of secondaries.

                      I have some ferrites, but the are ferrite bars from a defunct Russian radio manufacturer. If they don't work, I'll try my hand at casting some Fe3o4 cores and see what they do.

                      That's it for now.

                      Last edited by vidbid; 03-25-2011, 03:35 AM. Reason: Edit
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                      • Well, few Points now, but i will try to make it short.
                        First, I did play now with my Epoxy and Iron oxide, and got a Slap. I did take a PVC Tube what you use for fugues, depleted it, cutted the Top, made some Spacer from Cardbox with a dividers, and made another Hole at the Middle, where i stick a Coppertube through, put grease inside and on the Copper tube, that i can put the Core later out, or even still move it.
                        Thought, so i can get a Core what have a Hole in the Middle, put the Coppertube trough the Spacers and closed the Bottom with Hot glue. Only Problem now was, that the mix was to thick and it did not run into the Tube as i expected.
                        It was more a to tough Mass, but when i do make it thinner, it has lesser Powder at the Mix.

                        Second It seems like, T.K seems had only 3 Coils at the Video posted above.

                        Lenz Law, anyhow, i think he may moved the EM Force with the Modulation Coil out of the Way, because Lenz Law is not a Force, it is only the Magentic Field what is there.
                        May thats why Alex pointed at the Video from the Magnetic Amplifier, to show it, how to control the EM Field, and amplify it, looks like it works like a Magnetic Transistor.
                        That whole thing brings me back to the TPU. Someone mentioned, that it is similar to Teslas Patent 381970.
                        A toroid Coil with thin Wire at the first layer, 4 Coils around, 2 x 2 in serie with 180° Distance and even 4 Spark gaps.
                        There is a similar Patent 390721, where it seems like, there is a timing Circuit added.
                        Sm mentioned, that you have to Adjust a TV ( He compared the TPU with it) at the Brighness, Contrast, and Sound, the get a optimal Picture.

                        Now, when i look at T.K's Patent application, it says at figure 1
                        ..is characerized to include power switch (1), capacitor (2), points (3), high frequency generator (4), first filter (5), first bobin(Coil) (6), first frequency adjuster (7), second filter (8), frequency stabilizer (adjuster) (9) aso.

                        Same things, what may Tesla did in a more crude Way.
                        His Patent shows only 1 Core with 2 Coils, but can be, that TK did leave the other Cores with the other Coils out at the Patent, and you can seperate the Cores (or even must seperate them)

                        For whom who is interested to a RC Filter Circuit click here open at the Applet at the Menu Circuits, and pick Passive Filters > (RC) High pass Filter.
                        You can see, with this simple Circuit you can keep a changing input frequency stable at the output.
                        Anyhow i dont see a lot from this at Alex Circuit, or i am maybe blind, but a Signal from 50 hz, what is modulated.
                        But it still looks different to TK's Device, but that means, there is more then one way to reach the Goal.

                        And well, heat anywhere at the Circuit is mostly a problem from unbalanced Coils with different resistance. It may can be fixed, when you tune the Coils better.

                        --Edit-- And furthermore, when i look at this Devices now and compare it with a Tesla Coil, (HV Tower with the big Wire Coil at Bottom) then i wanna say, that Peoples did connect it f-ing wrong, when they do tap the HV Coils.
                        It is the Thick Coil at Bottom, what you need to tap for the Power, not the HV Coil.
                        Last edited by Joit; 03-25-2011, 01:12 PM.
                        Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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                        • Why SR Uses A Frequency Generator Instead of an Astable Multivibrator

                          I was thinking about this last night. Why would SR use a frequency generator if he didn't have to. Why not just use an astable multivibrator? Then I remembered what I had seen in a few videos. In the video by Andrey Melnichenko, the frequency of the device is 2.4 kHz. In the video by Peter Lindemann, the frequency used by EV Gray in his device was 6 kHz. An astable multivibrator would just produce a frequency of 50 Hz. SR uses a frequency generator because he has to.

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                          • Modulated Flyback

                            I was reading a post by the admin of Next Energy forum (reportedly SR193) who talks about what he calls the "explosive" source. I'll need to look into that aspect more closely.

                            Somewhere I read in his forum that the frequency should be between 16 KHz and 35 kHz, but that seems way too high. I was thinking between 2.4 kHz and 6 kHz. At this point, on SR really knows.



                            It makes sense to me that the flyback is modulated.



                            Though, there is no mention of the the small white vertical coil.

                            And the diagram shows no air gap in between two ferrite cores.


                            Last edited by vidbid; 03-26-2011, 08:40 AM. Reason: Additoin
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                            • Just a short update on Ironoxide.
                              Fe2O3 is actually yellow Ironoxide, can be found here at Wiki. Its close to Fe3o4, but the price is close the same.

                              I got my core now, 1,8 in thick and a Hole inside with 0,7in, for a possible copper tube put inside, and length is about 7,7 in.
                              But i got nothing to test it with coils or to compare, and not sure, if i should cut it now in 2 Pieces or not. The Original from T.K at the latest Video had 3 Coils on 3 Cores, the First one a long tube, where i dont know, what core was used, or, if there been one. Some say there been none.
                              And i dont see still a spark gap at the Build from TK. It still looks quite a bit different to SR's device.
                              I did still play around with a Microwave Transformer and a Spark Gap,
                              and at the right Duty cycle i really can make a Lamp to dim (20VInput Load 5 W), no big different, wich Frequency, when i adjust it right, what dont works without a Spark gap.
                              Just, i can hear the Spark at my Radio also, and maybe my Enviroment can hear that too. So, its not the best Solution for me.

                              I did look further into the Magnetic Amplifier, you can read more about it here and couple other good Stuff, like a homemade Borax (Baked Soda) Rectifier with a Pint of Water and one or 2 Aluminium Strips.
                              Basically, what i ve read out now, the Amplifier contains a Secondary, what is feed with AC and a Load, the Primary is feeded through a DC Source with a variable Transistor.
                              With the Primary, you saturate the Core that the Secondary Winding get a variable stronger EM Field for the Coil to pickup.Its not a bad Idea and seems like something from a half forgotten Technologie, since our 'Experts' think, it does no matter how much Energy and Heat you waste into a Circuit, but main point to make it cheap with few Transistors.
                              Last edited by Joit; 03-28-2011, 05:10 AM.
                              Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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                              • Guys, this is SOOOO simple, this device, Kapandzee's devices, Don Smith's stuff, .... They all create huge DISPLACEMENT CURRENT....

                                STUDY the workings of the Ark of the covenant...these systems are an analog to that one, but with magnetic fields, rather than the pure electric system of the ARK. These imperfect systems contort and block the formation of a stable magnetic field, or at the very least, stop current from flowing from the source oscillator, to make it work as if it were a PURE potential system.

                                There are only 2 major parts of the simple system .... an electron providing ground circuit, and a high voltage NO CURRENT oscillator(4 part if you count a recovery/feedback to source section, and a high voltage source separate from the oscillator, but working in synch with it). The load is taken from the grounding circuit part....

                                The high voltage drags in displacement current from the ground system to the center of the device. When the positive is turned off, the faraday cage/bucket effect happens....ALL CURRENT EXPLODES TO THE OUTSIDE, and you put your load in its path.

                                There are a few devices which work more perfectly, WITHOUT magnetic fields, WHICH IS WHAT WE SHOULD STRIVE FOR. MAGNETIC FIELDS SHOULD BE AVOIDED AT ALL COSTS due to their electromagnetic radiation which is cancer causing, and screws with plant and animal life.

                                Pavel Imris's optical electrostatic generator and Joseph Hiddink's capacity charger work WITHOUT magnetics, and we should probably be designing our systems closer to those

                                Ask me questions about this concept and I'll make it clearer based on specific examples of devices.
                                Last edited by SuperCaviTationIstic; 03-28-2011, 03:46 PM.

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