SR 193 / SR193 - Study of the Device, Theories, Diagrams, Schematics & Experiments

[scratchrobot]

hello friend scratchrobot

thanks for your answer ', that took time asking and not one answered me

thanks poe over the links sent, I am studying

I posted about the diagram is a user named crazyalex, I write not to confuse the issue more because from what I've seen several threads on sr kapagen and replicas of 193, and others and I slept much the place myself

I think the forum moderator if time should make a compilation of all data in these three thread there on this subject as it is very interesting what I read in this month

thanks again scratchrobot

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you are welcome..
Interesting subject but to many theories so wich one is right if any.
The first link i send you is with crazyalex, you want to replicate him?

Here another thread about the subject

[Dr Poppy]

acceleration

Has anyone contemplated the possibility that those are ferrite ring magnets and that is an accelerator coil? E=MC2 is a highly peer reviewed process for converting mass into energy through acceleration. I see many elements to the coil which would indicate this is an accelerator coil.

The high voltage would be the electron extraction portion. When the modulator passes the zero crossing then the high voltage would kick in and fire a few times if the circuit were resonant. Otherwise it could just fire constantly.

The spark gap not only produces a phonon, but it produce an electron cascade to drain the circuit of electrons pulling it lower. Read the Dr. Puharich and Stan Meyer electron bounce information for more.

The output coil originally released by SR193 loops through the core and that would be the accelerated section. If those are ferrite ring magnets and they appear to be since they do not have rounded edges on the nipple that sticks out, that would indicate accelerator.

The modulation portion appears to be driven by an OP amp in the schematic with the wrong symbol. The modulator design is faulty and will not pass more than a few hundred ma of current but this is an easy fix. You will note a dot (pad) on the schematic where an edit or mistake may have taken place new the push pull transistor pair.

If you look at the wire colors entering the first layer of the coil on opposite ends, you will note that one is blue and the other is tan. This would suggest to me that they are bifilar and the ends left open for an inductive coupling similar to the Dr. Stiffler cold electricity claim. Unless there is simply some foil and the high voltage coil claim is false.

It is also interesting to note how Kapanadze uses progressively larger litz wire as he moves toward the earth ground. As poor as they are, they probably would not use large welding cable unless they had to. Acceleration /deceleration - compression / decompression.

I would like to obtain the high quality video or photos so I may have a look myself since what is on youtube is of poor quality. Could someone supply me with a link to that?

Sincerely,

Poppy

[vidbid]

Take a look at this YouTube video: Трансформатор Зацаринина - разоблачение

YouTube - Трансформатор Зацаринина - разоблачение

Shows how ferrite core works with slotted metallic core to produce EMF from applied signal.

[scratchrobot]

@Dr Poppy, I was also thinking the device maybe an electron muliplier? When a charged or neutral particle, an ion or an electron, strikes a surface it can cause electrons associated with the outer layers of atoms to be released. The HV is used to accelerate the electrons.

An 'electron multiplier' (continuous dynode electron multiplier) is a vacuum-tube structure that multiplies incident charges. In a process called secondary emission, a single electron can, when bombarded on metal (or PbO coated surface) induce emission of roughly 1 to 3 electrons. If an electric potential is applied between this metal plate and yet another, the emitted electrons will accelerate to the next metal plate and induce secondary emission of still more electrons. This can be repeated a number of times, resulting in a large shower of electrons all collected by a metal anode, all having been triggered by just one. Therefore, another name for electron multipliers is 'avalanching ion detector'. 12 stages of acceleration will usually give a gain in current of 10 million.

I think this can only happen in a vacuum?

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Here an other interesting link

@vidbid, That video is also very interesting, I have seen it come by on other forum's and i wonder what he is using at the input of that coil?

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

this can happen in a flame too!

check out T.T. Brown's flame jet generator, it's the SAME THING

[boguslaw]

Vacuum triode amplifier (Floyd Sweet VTA)
Steven Mark Toroidal Power Unit (TPU)

and now SR193 device...hmm...

Why everywhere seems to be vacuum triode concept used ? Thermionic electrons emission ? Why Steven Mark tips are full of references to vacuum tube and electrons acceleration ?

[vidbid]

Core Device

@vidbid, That video is also very interesting, I have seen it come by on other forum's and i wonder what he is using at the input of that coil?

I would say that that is a function generator.

[vidbid]

SR193 Believed To Function According To EV Gray's Device

Recently, I have been looking at EV Gray's technology, and I am struck how similar EV Gray's technology is to what I learned about the many proposed SR193 designs.

EV Gray's (version 3.0 circuit topology) technology starts off with a 12v source battery, a multivibrator, a step-up transformer, a FWBR, a capacitive discharge circuit, the CSET (Conversion Switching Element Tube), a switching diode connected to a timing (interrupt circuit), an then a return to the positive terminal of the source battery. From the grid of the CSET (Conversion Switching Element Tube) to an air-core step-down transformer connected to ground. The secondary of the air-core step-down transformer is connected to loads and to a step-down transformer connected FWBR which is connected to a capacitor, connected to a charge battery.

What if the SR193 was basically the same thing but with the charge output fed to the source input, with only a momentary start battery contact needed to initialize circuit operation?

That would be something.

[boguslaw]

Maybe it works the same as shorting coil ? Just many times per peak of magnetic field creating magnetic current inside ferrites and then electric peaks in output coil ? Do you see something really interesting ?
Shorted coil is really like open coil connected to own capacitance, the only problem is how to give it energy an it will oscillate.The second problem is how to extract energy with gain (when rised by resonance inside coil)

[boguslaw]

In SR193 video there is black box under the plastic ring. You speculated that it's relay. I think it is just diode bridge connected to output of big transfoerm nearby giving 12V 1A or more to make circuit selfrunning.

[vidbid]

The Small Black Box on the SR193

In SR193 video there is black box under the plastic ring. You speculated that it's relay. I think it is just diode bridge connected to output of big transfoerm nearby giving 12V 1A or more to make circuit selfrunning.

It's possible, but I do think the device would need some sort of relay to switch from the start capacitors once the device was activated which would possible explain why there was voltage drop indicated on the voltage meter of the power supply just after the SR193 device was started, but then again that is just my speculation.

Additionally, it seems like the device would also need some sort of voltage regulator to make sure that the input voltage doesn't go beyond 12 VDC so as to prevent the device from burning out, but that is my just my speculation.

I do believe that the SR193 device is tapping the over-energy event of the electro-radiant effect from the spark gap(1), and then sending the energy through the ferrite core coil. Then some of the energy is sent to the load, and for self-powering, some of the energy is sent to the 220 VAC to 12 VAC step-down transformer, to a full-wave bridge rectifier, as you describe it, and then to smoothing capacitors, and then to a voltage regulator, then through a relay contact, and then to the input of the SR193 device, to close-loop the system. (I do believe that the relay is powered by the 12 VDC output of the SR193 device, and the relay contact opens when the device is powered off, allowing the device to be re-started by the start capacitors when they are charged by an external power source. Once the device is started again, the relay disconnects the start capacitors.) Again, this is only my speculation.

Sort of like this diagram:




Source

Also, I don't see why you couldn't use a Magnetite Powder Composite in Epoxy (Black Iron Oxide) (Fe3o4) Core instead of a Ferrite Fe2o3 Core.

I found what looks like another SR193-type replication on YouTube.

(1)Reference E.V. Gray's CSET Patent (Conversion Switching Element Tube) & Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter Patent.

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Another SR193 Replication

See here on YouTube.

[Dr Poppy]

Recently, I have been looking at EV Gray's technology, and I am struck how similar EV Gray's technology is to what I learned about the many proposed SR193 designs.

EV Gray's (version 3.0 circuit topology) technology starts off with a 12v source battery, a multivibrator, a step-up transformer, a FWBR, a capacitive discharge circuit, the CSET (Conversion Switching Element Tube), a switching diode connected to a timing (interrupt circuit), an then a return to the positive terminal of the source battery. From the grid of the CSET (Conversion Switching Element Tube) to an air-core step-down transformer connected to ground. The secondary of the air-core step-down transformer is connected to loads and to a step-down transformer connected FWBR which is connected to a capacitor, connected to a charge battery.

What if the SR193 was basically the same thing but with the charge output fed to the source input, with only a momentary start battery contact needed to initialize circuit operation?

That would be something.

"Conversion Switching Element Tube" - Therein lies the part that matters but everyone ignores. I am doing a series of experiments presently to determine the multipactor effect on different gases.

I suspect that it is the gas we are looking for which is the part that everyone also tends to ignore about the Gray tube. So far I have found that it does matter which gas is in the tube but have not tested the one I suspect is it.

Until I see some sort of gas vessel in the SR device, I would suggest it is completely different than Kapanadze or a hoax. The Kapanadze device clearly uses a gas inside a copper tube under the blue tape and appears to be a magnetic compression generator. These devices have known about for around for nearly 100 years.

[boguslaw]

Ok.We have now two schematics.Which one is correct ? I tried to make similar circuit to crazyalex sinusoidal generator using CD4049 chip and BD649/BD650 pair but I've got very poor results, voltage very low on output.

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Higher Voltages & Higher Frequencies: the Key to Higher Powers

Ok.We have now two schematics.Which one is correct ? I tried to make similar circuit to crazyalex sinusoidal generator using CD4049 chip and BD649/BD650 pair but I've got very poor results, voltage very low on output.

This is all speculation on my part:

After some reflection on this question, personally, I don't believe that a frequency of 50 or 60 Hz is going to cut it. That frequency is not high enough.

With these type of devices, I believe that power is a function of high voltage and high frequency, coupled with radiant events. Therefore, the higher frequencies and higher voltages ought to result in higher powers.

If you look at the image of SR193 device, it appears that it has a frequency generating component driving a push-pull amplifier which inductively powers the ferrite core output transformer. This, I believe, imparts the high frequency aspect to the device.

If the frequency generating component were to generate a frequency of around 60kHz, and the high voltage fly-back transformer generated about 5kv, that coupled with the radiant effect of the spark gap and a correctly wound ferrite core output transformer, then, I believe, that would probably be sufficient to cause a gain.

So I would say that the design incorporating a 555 timer producing a high frequency square wave would be your best bet, also being that a square wave has more power than a sinusoidal wave.