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  • #16
    Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
    @ALL

    just did three emissions test with it and got given some to test, we need to do the after in a few weeks. Will have an independent report for ALL.

    @Matt now they say

    Cerma with STM-3 is the only product of it kind that will stop hydrogen embrittlement damage in an engine

    Ash
    ashtweth,
    its been four years since the last post in this thread, any new developments
    did you get around to doing that independent report you talked about?

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    • #17
      Ash just posted that yesterday, not four years ago. The first post in this thread is less than 2 years old. Are you looking at the date a person joined instead of the date of the post?

      Carroll
      Just because someone disagrees with you does NOT make them your enemy. We can disagree without attacking someone.

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      • #18
        Yes guys we finally got sponsored some Cerma and will test it on 4 vehicles, already did 3 emissions test, need one more then to add the cerma and report, remember we test the XXX out of some thing, so it will be different fuel types, we will also test it with the Z5, and fuel magnets, so far we have found the best fuel savers are the Z5, XFT/fuel mag MIXED TOGETHER. Cerma is a one off for the friction treatment, it may be a missing link. (for co generative low cost high fuel savings)

        Y no one states its organic?


        Ash

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        • #19
          Originally posted by citfta View Post
          Ash just posted that yesterday, not four years ago. The first post in this thread is less than 2 years old. Are you looking at the date a person joined instead of the date of the post?

          Carroll
          Oops!! my bad... sorry.
          yeah im the new guy!

          JaggedE

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          • #20
            cant access website

            im trying to access http://cermasales.ca/ but it says

            "Forbidden

            You don't have permission to access / on this server."


            i also tried proxies from the us, canada, germany and japan and still no change.

            are others facing the same problem?

            the reason i need to ask is because ive changed my isp and until i did i could access the website.

            cermastore.com seems to be working though, does that mean the website has migrated or the suppression has started?

            jaggedE
            Last edited by jaggedE; 05-18-2012, 11:57 AM. Reason: update

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            • #21
              I would say that it's moved to the http://cermastore.com

              On a side note it looks like the regular treatment is $72

              I have a 2000 Cavalier that still gets ~35 miles/gallon (AND 292,000 miles!!!). I wonder what this would do for that

              Any more testimonials from members here?

              Thanks,
              occy

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              • #22
                im waiting for someone from here to make a trip to the US, ill ask them to bring it back with them. im all for testing it out on my car, but getting my hands on it could take a while.

                meanwhile we are all waiting for ashtweth at panacea university to publish their findings. that will be decisive, after they are through with it i dont think any more testimonials will be able to add or subtract from it.

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                • #23
                  Guys no vid or snap yet but thought i would give you the meat

                  Have done 3 tests with petrol, diesel and LPG, in an LPG car, reduced noise more power and engine temp down, we are doing an emissions next week on it, just did a diesel test with measuring the engine noise results in a few days
                  we reduced emissions in the petrol case

                  The positive results in the Subaru

                  60k's
                  HC - 55% drop
                  CO - 100% drop
                  CO2 - 12% drop
                  NOx - 3.46x increase

                  80k's
                  HC - 86% drop
                  CO - 100% drop
                  CO2 - 0.6% increase
                  NOx - 1.4% drop

                  Ash

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                  • #24
                    Guys there seems to be some thing substantial with AIR CONDITIONING AND COLD ROOMS using this organic substance.

                    we just finished getting a report on an ice box maker. Will have a snap and report for the video with all of it when finished, here is a highlight, this guy saved half his energy using an ice box maker.

                    He emptied the ice maker box, and timed how long it took to fill up with ice. It took 95 hours.He then emptied it and added the Cerma,it took 65 hours first go to fill up.

                    After a week
                    42 Hr's
                    Thats prob half the energy. We will try and do a supermarket fridge for the video.

                    Ash

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                    • #25
                      ash,
                      very encouraging results thanks.
                      any theories on why the NOx goes up in the first case?

                      also any figures on the increase if any on the MPG?

                      thanks
                      JaggedE

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                      • #26
                        Hi JaggedE/ALL

                        Yes my friend some times one goes down and one goes up i have seen it with hyroxy, Z5 and the XFT treatment , this is due to the different chemical reactions i think?, so its normal to get some thing like that, but it changes for different fuel types, like Hydroxy will make the nox goes up in diesels etc etc.

                        Okay we need to wait 90 days as per instructions for peak fuel savings so are recording as we speak .

                        I really think you guys should go make money with a big fridge with this and do some open source free energy work

                        Ash

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
                          Hi JaggedE/ALL

                          I really think you guys should go make money with a big fridge with this and do some open source free energy work

                          Ash
                          ash,
                          any idea how he applied it? did he paint it on or dilute it and spray it? (or is the cerma not so viscous in the first place?)

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                          • #28
                            im doing an independent evaluation of cerma as well on an opel 2002 model. obviously need to wait for peak fuel savings but so far i can surely say vibrations have gone down tremendously, it used to viberate so much that the silencer used to make a racket inspite of having a rubber to stop it from touching the car body, now the sound has gone completely and the vibration is drastically reduced.

                            i shall post fuel savings and pollution reports after 3 months!

                            however i think we might need to fool the oxygen sensor on the car like we do for hydroxy in order to get peak fuel savings. has anyone else done this?

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                            • #29
                              Hi jaggedE,

                              I'm glad to see you are already seeing some improvements to your Opel, but I don't understand why you think it might be necessary to try and fool the oxygen sensor. The cerma treatment only helps the engine to run more efficiently by raising the compression and lowering the friction of the internal parts of the engine. The cerma doesn't do anything to affect the fuel to air ratio so there should be no need to do anything to fool the oxygen sensor.

                              After you get a thousand miles or so on your Opel you should see at least a 10 to 15% increase in your mileage. Our Saturn went from 28 to 32.5 miles/gal on trips and this was a car that was showing no signs of real problems other that using a little more oil than I thought it should. Now it still uses no oil between changes almost a year after the treatment. We have put about 25,000 miles on it in the last year. It appears it really is a one time treatment.


                              Originally posted by jaggedE View Post
                              however i think we might need to fool the oxygen sensor on the car like we do for hydroxy in order to get peak fuel savings. has anyone else done this?
                              Carroll
                              Just because someone disagrees with you does NOT make them your enemy. We can disagree without attacking someone.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by jaggedE View Post
                                ash,
                                any idea how he applied it? did he paint it on or dilute it and spray it? (or is the cerma not so viscous in the first place?)
                                Sorry i missed this one my friend, he applied it the normal way to Air cons,
                                Cerma Air

                                you can use the left over in the bottle for smaller jobs, I know some one who did that .

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