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    The purpose of this thread is to discuss all type of levitation and propulsion systems that will be used on "UFO" aircrafts and powered by FE devices in a near future!

    i wanted to make a lifter since a lot time ago, and the plasma propulsion thing exited me to start building because now we can put an inanimate lifter to propel in all directions instead of just levitating!

    im starting my replica and still wondering some interactions of how this will work, but its very simple process, and i allready have it all in my head, i would do some schematics!!

    thats all for now...

    BOOM!!!

    EDIT: i forgot to say, all the credits of this project goes to Naudin, jonny (that put us aware of the plama propulsion), woppy & lidmotor (that have improved the concept), and all the guys experimenting with this stuff!!
    Last edited by TanTric; 07-10-2010, 05:54 AM.
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  • #2
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    this will be my mini lifter:






    Im still thinking on the best way to adapt the plasma propulsors in this craft!!



    BOOOMMMMM
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    • #3
      Figured I'd share something I found interesting. While reading William Lynes book Pentagon Aliens where he described Tesla's electric propulsion system, I remembered a web site I had seen a while back related to a high voltage thruster that was non ion wind (FreeWeb. On the page the inventor had a thruster that also contained a plasma discharge tube, the commonality struck me! technically the only difference between Lynes description and his thruster arrangement was that his dc and ac components where offset and not directly opposite each other.

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      • #4
        Figured I'd share something I found interesting. While reading William Lynes book Pentagon Aliens where he described Tesla's electric propulsion system, I remembered a web site I had seen a while back related to a high voltage thruster that was non ion wind Thruster with ping-pong ball. On the page the inventor had a thruster that also contained a plasma discharge tube, the commonality struck me! technically the only difference between Lynes description and his thruster arrangement was that his dc and ac components where offset and not directly opposite each other. Sorry for the repost, screwed up the URL.

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        • #5
          Ppal

          thank you very much phoneboy!! very interesting stuff to my project!!

          here it is the schematic, i call it PPAL:




          Boom
          Light, I Am!

          You are Not a Body that has a Spirit, You are a Spirit that Has a Body! There is no Path to Peace, Peace is the Path!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by phoneboy View Post
            Figured I'd share something I found interesting. While reading William Lynes book Pentagon Aliens where he described Tesla's electric propulsion system, I remembered a web site I had seen a while back related to a high voltage thruster that was non ion wind Thruster with ping-pong ball. On the page the inventor had a thruster that also contained a plasma discharge tube, the commonality struck me! technically the only difference between Lynes description and his thruster arrangement was that his dc and ac components where offset and not directly opposite each other. Sorry for the repost, screwed up the URL.
            I think you are referring to this cool guy, who is using a needle and half a ping pong ball

            YouTube - borbasmiklos's Channel

            Loads of experiments on video - enjoy tantric. Keep us informed, and ill get my old lifter out and join you...its just sitting in a box upstairs, waiting for action

            EDIT - i see you also left a good link - thank you!!!!

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            • #7
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              guys i got a better concept...

              instead of having the levitator and propulsion with different systems, i will supply the propulsion from the same source of Ion levitation!

              i will also make same tests to see what i can get with magnetic rotational plasma!!

              i allready have my prototype ready, and is not the concept of naudin anymore... i will try with a really UFO shape spaceship!!

              BOOM
              Last edited by TanTric; 07-13-2010, 04:41 AM.
              Light, I Am!

              You are Not a Body that has a Spirit, You are a Spirit that Has a Body! There is no Path to Peace, Peace is the Path!

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              • #8
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                one more good new!

                the levitator will work without ground connection, but that drives to a problem... "vibration"!

                we should solve that easily also!

                EDIT:

                example:

                Main pyramidal frame : cardboard 200 mm wide and 60 mm height.

                Total Weight : 7 g

                Power required for a stable flight above the ground : 18.9 Watts ( 35 KV @ 540uA )


                just some interesting calculations to study viability:

                0.007g x 25.000 (just a shot) ~ 175K

                good one my weight is 60k, lets imagine we can have an ultra light carbon and aluminium armature craft + FE generator with the rest 115k.

                18.9W x 25.000 = 472500 watts

                uff, our free energy device will have to be very small and light, and very much powerfull! i will not calculate the voltage so i dont scare myself!

                maybe this is not proporcional, and we can power the small human craft with much less power compared with the smaller version? or we can find out someway of achieving the same effects with much less power?

                everything its possible!




                Last edited by TanTric; 07-13-2010, 05:35 AM.
                Light, I Am!

                You are Not a Body that has a Spirit, You are a Spirit that Has a Body! There is no Path to Peace, Peace is the Path!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TanTric View Post
                  The purpose of this thread is to discuss all type of levitation and propulsion systems that will be used on "UFO" aircrafts and powered by FE devices in a near future!

                  i wanted to make a lifter since a lot time ago, and the plasma propulsion thing exited me to start building because now we can put an inanimate lifter to propel in all directions instead of just levitating!

                  im starting my replica and still wondering some interactions of how this will work, but its very simple process, and i allready have it all in my head, i would do some schematics!!

                  thats all for now...

                  BOOM!!!

                  EDIT: i forgot to say, all the credits of this project goes to Naudin, jonny (that put us aware of the plama propulsion), woppy & lidmotor (that have improved the concept), and all the guys experimenting with this stuff!!
                  I really like this propulsion demonstration - it seems to have a good force behind it:
                  YouTube - EHD-reactor
                  "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Harvey View Post
                    I really like this propulsion demonstration - it seems to have a good force behind it:
                    YouTube - EHD-reactor
                    nice vid, it kind of reminds me of my experiments with thrusters, you can see the largest one i built on my profile picture

                    here are some of my thurster videos
                    YouTube - serfer5rogers's Channel
                    Last edited by serfer5; 07-13-2010, 12:37 PM.

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                    • #11


                      thank you harvey, verfy interesting! what do you think of plasma in vacuum my friend?

                      @sefer cool videos you have there my friend!!


                      BOOM


                      Originally posted by Harvey View Post
                      I really like this propulsion demonstration - it seems to have a good force behind it:
                      YouTube - EHD-reactor
                      Light, I Am!

                      You are Not a Body that has a Spirit, You are a Spirit that Has a Body! There is no Path to Peace, Peace is the Path!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TanTric View Post
                        thank you harvey, verfy interesting! what do you think of plasma in vacuum my friend?

                        @sefer cool videos you have there my friend!!


                        BOOM
                        glad you liked them

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Harvey View Post
                          I really like this propulsion demonstration - it seems to have a good force behind it:
                          YouTube - EHD-reactor
                          Why this video show only momentary acceleration and not continuous like serfer5?

                          Considering the circuit mentioned is pulse triggered I wonder why it only produce momentary acceleration? My experiment also show continuous thrust?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by serfer5 View Post
                            nice vid, it kind of reminds me of my experiments with thrusters, you can see the largest one i built on my profile picture

                            here are some of my thurster videos
                            YouTube - serfer5rogers's Channel
                            Very Nice
                            "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TanTric View Post
                              thank you harvey, verfy interesting! what do you think of plasma in vacuum my friend?

                              @sefer cool videos you have there my friend!!


                              BOOM
                              Plasma is the fourth state of matter and consists of dual electrical pathways of free electrons and ions. Our atmosphere is mostly vacuum with distributed gases that interacts readily with plasma to neutralize it.

                              So plasma in the vacuum is a better place to experiment with it than in our atmosphere. Pressure plays an important part in all types of matter states and energy conversions and low pressures are helpful at liberating energy from material.

                              Cheers,

                              "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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