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  • Originally posted by TanTric View Post
    @xee2, so the input and output ground are common (the same)?

    ok, im going to open the tripler very carefully without damage it!


    @all im still cannot get flight with lifter connected to copper bars of flyback hairpin, i guess the spark gap is wasting to much energy, have to put a more efficient one without noise!

    My new video, Cold Proof!

    First tunning the frequencys, then Test of 10min underwater with 15W fridge bulb without increase in temperature, also the copper bars in short circuit and then testing a paper card on the spark gap, dont make holes, only stains!

    what a perfect heart!! this one goes to harvey! BOOM

    YouTube - ‪jujusalva's Channel‬‎


    Beautiful Video Juju!
    "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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      so glad you like it harvey!!! really exited!!

      im not lucky with the tripler...

      eheh
      Light, I Am!

      You are Not a Body that has a Spirit, You are a Spirit that Has a Body! There is no Path to Peace, Peace is the Path!

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      • Originally posted by TanTric View Post
        where do i put it, and what value do you advice?
        I am not sure. I would try 100K across the multiplier output. Then measure the voltage across the resistor. The problem is that if you do not have it hooked up correctly you may put too much currrent through the diodes and blow them up.

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          i guess my levels of luck are at the bottom... any sugestion to try other connections on the stud/cables of tripler?

          im connecting the 12V transformer AC on the brown cable (T) and stud of tripler, then stud to earthground, the G2 (red) is disconnected, im trying ro read some values between HV out and common earth ground... sometimes it shows 0.01V? weird, the transformer is working ok, so maybe damaged tripler, or bad connections? the doubt remains..

          EDIT: and how about if the stud is the AC IN? and the brown is the ground? its possible? or can i try to connect between G2 and stud (to ground)?

          please advice, dont wanted to BOOM this!

          Last edited by TanTric; 08-12-2010, 03:15 AM.
          Light, I Am!

          You are Not a Body that has a Spirit, You are a Spirit that Has a Body! There is no Path to Peace, Peace is the Path!

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          • Originally posted by TanTric View Post

            is the thing on the left side, a relay switch?


            ..............
            Light, I Am!

            You are Not a Body that has a Spirit, You are a Spirit that Has a Body! There is no Path to Peace, Peace is the Path!

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            • Originally posted by TanTric View Post
              so glad you like it harvey!!! really exited!!

              im not lucky with the tripler...

              eheh
              I just had a good close look at the circuit board pics.

              These are Flyback Transformers:
              Flyback Transformer - Google Search

              These are CRT Neckboards:
              CRT Neckboard - Google Search

              What you have there is a CRT Neckboard.

              How exactly was the focus pack soldered in there?

              I can GUESS that G2 (RED) was soldered at the R2 - C2 pad. But it would seem that the 'T' (Brown) wire was soldered at the Ground pad between R3 and TP3 ???

              If so, then that means my earlier GUESS was wrong. So we then need to ID where that STUD was connected and it would be a good thing to know what was on the end of that Blue Wire. If that didn't have the HV Anode Cup (suction cup looking thing) then what you have there may be nothing more than a High Voltage Variable Resistor. Looking at the Neck-board, I can see the F terminal is routed through that ribbon cable, so there is another system for providing the Focus which is separate from your LF0058.

              There may be a service manual online for your make and model set that gives the exact wiring diagram and voltages for your specific set.

              Cheers,

              "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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                harvey you were right, i opened the stuff to take my doubts, and is only a strange circuit board with regulators, not any caps or diodes...

                will try to get a tripler tomorrow, that was the ideal, if i cannot get one, i will try to input at least 50V at my system, have to get a transformer, or maybe use my 110vac output with some voltage regulator, not shore, naudin have a config that dont use the tripler... just the dc flyback alone...

                thank you everyone!!

                thank so much harvey and xee for all your efforts, you are so kind person!! thank you from the heart really



                Light, I Am!

                You are Not a Body that has a Spirit, You are a Spirit that Has a Body! There is no Path to Peace, Peace is the Path!

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                • @TanTric

                  The tripler should have a high voltage wire for the output and it usually has a suction cup on the end that attaches to the picture tube.

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                  • my lifter

                    Finnaly my lifter! is nothing special, but it was a very fun project to me...

                    this one goes specially to jeanna, harvey, jonnydavro, xee, cosmicgnarler, seth, and all the rest!!

                    wait for 3min to see full power!

                    Enjoy! YouTube - jujusalva's Channel

                    Last edited by TanTric; 08-23-2010, 03:12 AM.
                    Light, I Am!

                    You are Not a Body that has a Spirit, You are a Spirit that Has a Body! There is no Path to Peace, Peace is the Path!

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                    • Originally posted by TanTric View Post
                      Finnaly my lifter!
                      I like your lifter design. It looks very sturdy. What were you using to power it?

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                      • Good Stuff Juju!

                        Interesting corona discharge there (purple) - must be a few sharp edges it looks like. I wonder how it would be if the foil was shaped as a torus, nice round surface

                        It does a pretty kewl dance there too

                        Cheers
                        "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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                        • hii xee

                          i just took the aluminium cover of a candle like this one:



                          i was powering it with a 30V power source (26V onload) wall adaptor, feeding a flyback transformer!!

                          hugs

                          Originally posted by xee2 View Post
                          I like your lifter design. It looks very sturdy. What were you using to power it?
                          Light, I Am!

                          You are Not a Body that has a Spirit, You are a Spirit that Has a Body! There is no Path to Peace, Peace is the Path!

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                          • so glad you like it harvey!!

                            as a torus? sorry dont understanded, can you explain better?

                            yeap is a pretty good dancer lifter! eheh



                            Originally posted by Harvey View Post
                            Good Stuff Juju!

                            Interesting corona discharge there (purple) - must be a few sharp edges it looks like. I wonder how it would be if the foil was shaped as a torus, nice round surface

                            It does a pretty kewl dance there too

                            Cheers
                            Light, I Am!

                            You are Not a Body that has a Spirit, You are a Spirit that Has a Body! There is no Path to Peace, Peace is the Path!

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                            • Originally posted by TanTric View Post
                              i was powering it with a 30V power source (26V onload) wall adaptor, feeding a flyback transformer!!
                              Yeh, you got your flyback working. Were you using the 2 resistor driver circuit. If so what value resistors did you use.

                              I think you were having trouble with your lifter because it is much heavier than what most people build.

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                              • Originally posted by xee2 View Post
                                Yeh, you got your flyback working. Were you using the 2 resistor driver circuit. If so what value resistors did you use.

                                I think you were having trouble with your lifter because it is much heavier than what most people build.
                                That candle holder is surely a few grams at least....i was using 30KV and a lifter that weighed half a gram.

                                How much does the lifter weigh juju?

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