Plasma propulsion / Lifter / EM Antigravity Mini AirCraft

[TanTric]

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will start my lifter tests today!

im doing a very small craft to see if i can lift it with the output of my hairpin! (arround 10.000V output)

hope to have a video overnight, then my head will be clean to finish, improve and show my free energy rotation and solid state setups!

BOOM

[Mark]

Stay off the Orbo thread Juju or you may get banned.

[TanTric]

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as you wish master!

Stay off the Orbo thread Juju or you may get banned.

[sucahyo]

You can try with a lot of energy sources, here I include some:
1) High Voltage Direct Current (pulsed and continuous)
2) Alternating Current (high and low frequency, at low and high power)
3) Radiant energy
4) Backward EMF

If all of that is HV, how do we know that we don't get at least 3 on your list at the same time?


About orbo, let see if it can exceed 70% conventional current efficiency when charging a battery.

[seth]

will start my lifter tests today!

im doing a very small craft to see if i can lift it with the output of my hairpin! (arround 10.000V output)

hope to have a video overnight, then my head will be clean to finish, improve and show my free energy rotation and solid state setups!

BOOM

Good luck tantric!

Easiest way to get 30 KV is to wire your TV/Monitor directly into the mains, and just wire the rubber sucker (+) into your thin wire, and long metal strip going round the entire edge of the monitor screen (-) into your larger foil electrode.....eh voila, lifter lifting off.

Good luck my friend - i always look forward to your videos and enjoy them - you are an honest guy. Hope your honesty doesnt get you banned, but if it does, im sure we can stay in touch on youtube

[TanTric]

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dont worry, its easy to crate a new accont,

im playing arround, shore that i will not be banned, cause i have done nothing wrong, mark is just jealous

I think I'm contributing positively to the expansion of the forum, at least that is my unique intention!

thank you so much for your support, you know i apreciate that a lot!

new video tonight having big amounts of fun,

and then the lifter, i will just use the monitor as last option, cause my goal is power it with cold energy!

BOOM

[TanTric]

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i will just start the tests with my cold energy plasma propulsion lifter!

anyone replicating?

hugs

[MrMagAmp]

Sound can be used to achieve propulsion

While looking again at this post, I remembered a thing that I saw some time ago.
We're talking about generating "Cold current" to lift the aircraft.

Cold electrical energy is basically "Electrostatic sound waves", pure potential waves, or call it as you want (radiant, scalar...).
The most simple device to generate potential waves is a speaker. Basically the sound is a longitudinal wave.
Propulsion can also be achieved with sound. That is what I mean.

Check the work of Naudin about Biefeld-Brown:
The NASA Two Dimensional Asymmetrical Capacitor Thuster by Jean-Louis Naudin
As you see, there is a high voltage power supply. Like in the other lifter experiments.

Then, you can see that the same effect can be achieved using sound waves, instead of high voltage:
YouTube - Alternative Energy from Sound Waves can be achieved!

There are different documents claiming that propulsion can also be achieved using a piezo-electric material or a speaker, that also produces sound waves.
RADIO WAVES KEEP AIRSHIP ALOFT

So, basically, a combination of modulated sound waves can be used to cancel the gravity waves and produce thrust.
YouTube - Sound Wave Propulsion?

[CosmicFarmer]

Liquid helium.... Hmm that seems like an easy enough superfluid to obtain.

Do you think that if we had a doughnut shaped container filled with helium, which was cooked to make a portion of it a superfluid... then if we spun the regular helium, that the superfluid would spin with it? That way you dont need a magnetic superfluid, just a regular helium setup. Way beyond my testing though, just thinking for antigrav purposes.

[MrMagAmp]

The ionocraft is not very complex to build. The problem is the power source.
With impulse currents (radiant energy), we need to know if the lifter also works or not. Using electromagnetic energy, the lifter needs some miliamperes to lift.
If we remove all the electron current, as in the case of radiant energy, then I don't know if the lifter would work or not.

If you design a system that creates extremely short pulses of electrical energy, I think then there isn't enought time to make a spark.

I have just seen a video:
YouTube - Re: Flying Platform - Personal UFO

That is very easy to build (I mean the structure, not the energy source or the thruster). Replacing the fan (that is below the man), by a powerful speaker or something similar, thrust can be achieved.
But I repeat, the main problem is the power source, not the propulsio system and/or the structure.

[TanTric]

hi everybody, voltage tripler

im working on the lifter, and i made a very light weight one, but is being difficult to get lift with low inputs, my power supply's maximum is 30V, my lifter is very light, but it will only shake and dance a little bit! i assume my output is more that 10.000 volts?

i have 2 ways now... get a power supply that can give me at least 50/80V, or buy a "voltage tripler" to triple output voltage...

but i cant find any voltage tripler in the electric stores arround here, so can anyone help with a easy voltage tripler circuit so i can get arround 30.000V output?

[Harvey]

im working on the lifter, and i made a very light weight one, but is being difficult to get lift with low inputs, my power supply's maximum is 30V, my lifter is very light, but it will only shake and dance a little bit! i assume my output is more that 10.000 volts?

i have 2 ways now... get a power supply that can give me at least 50/80V, or buy a "voltage tripler" to triple output voltage...

but i cant find any voltage tripler in the electric stores arround here, so can anyone help with a easy voltage tripler circuit so i can get arround 30.000V output?

Here is an experiment for you to try:

Take an old metal can with a metal top, like a paint can and set it in the center of a HDPE cutting board. Drill a hole in the center of the metal top to insert your pulsed DC output wire into and attach the wire to the bottom inside surface of the can (do not penetrate the can) it needs to be a good electrical bond but you cannot go through the material with a bolt as this would nullify the effect. The attachment must be some type of surface attachment. The hole must be sufficient to prevent arcing through your HV wire insulation. Consider that the edges of that hole will be at 300,000V+ DC when the center of your HV lead is at zero volts during a pulse - so you need enough air + wire insulation to prevent dielectric breakdown at that point.

The inside of the can should always measure zero volts while the outside of the can builds to the point of dielectric breakdown of the surrounding air.

Now you can run an HV lead from the outside of the can to your lifter and the voltage should be as high as the surrounding air will allow.



ETA: You may find this video helpful:
Lecture 6: High-Voltage Breakdown, Lightning, Sparks - St. Elmo's Fire

[Cherryman]

Here is a nice spark too.

This lightning is .31 of a second slowed down with a very high speed camera

Amazing how the spark keeps following the exact same track a few times in a row.

YouTube - ‪Slow Motion Video of a Multiple Tower Upward Lightning Flash on 6/16/10‬‎

[xee2]

im working on the lifter, and i made a very light weight one, but is being difficult to get lift with low inputs, my power supply's maximum is 30V, my lifter is very light, but it will only shake and dance a little bit! i assume my output is more that 10.000 volts?

i have 2 ways now... get a power supply that can give me at least 50/80V, or buy a "voltage tripler" to triple output voltage...

but i cant find any voltage tripler in the electric stores arround here, so can anyone help with a easy voltage tripler circuit so i can get arround 30.000V output?

Most lifters were powered by flybacks. Output voltage of flyback is function of input current (not input voltage). The voltage is only necessary to force the current through the primary resistance. If you do not have at least half amp of current you will not get much output voltage no matter what the input voltage is. Check for "YuccaOU" on YouTube for good flyback design. YouTube - ‪TV Flyback Transformer Driver Using 13005 Transistor‬‎

[TanTric]

hi xee

strange because at 20V i can put 2Amps depending on the frequencys, because im powering an NPN transistor base with a frequency generator to adjust what works best. i guess the feedback coil circuit work better? because using just the flyback, my spark will not be far that 1cm, maybe less... and this guy talks about 3cm sparks, so maybe my output its not more that 10.000...

i will try that circuit for shore!!! thank you very much

Most lifters were powered by flybacks. Output voltage of flyback is function of input current (not input voltage). The voltage is only necessary to force the current through the primary resistance. If you do not have at least half amp of current you will not get much output voltage no matter what the input voltage is. Check for "YuccaOU" on YouTube for good flyback design. YouTube - ‪TV Flyback Transformer Driver Using 13005 Transistor‬‎