Pendulum Assisted Manual Generator

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, I was so intrigued by this toy called a 'fling sock' or sometimes called foxtails and the video of the manually powered pendulum water pump and the Chalkalis setup and of course the amusement ride I went on when i was younger that was mentioned, that I thought I'd start this thread about ideas I have in mind to build. I drew a couple simple ideas I am going to try, though I'm not sure if I will have the two pendulum arms side by side with magnets in them sandwiching a plate with air-core stator coils or just one pendulum arm with coils on either side. I think manual power is a good idea to start with, since if it works well, then it can be demonstrated to people easily and they can try it out for themselves and see how easy it may be. Feel free to post any pendulum ideas you folks may have. Here is the cad pic.
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1...tmanualgen.png
peace love light
Tyson

[Inquorate]

cool, can't wait to see how it goes

[tjnlsn255]

I have no idea what the picture is showing but I look forward to seeing real pictures of your prototype in action......

I have always been interested in the pendulum idea ever since I saw an old grandfather clock ticking away for weeks at a time without any help.....

The Bedini pendulum looks interesting also.....

Hopes and Dreams....

Tj

[Joit]

One Question Skywatcher,
did your Hand moving in a round circle as you turned this Sock or did you make a ellipse like egg shaped circles?

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi tjnlsn255, thanks for reply. It's a simple pendulum with magnets at end which make full rotations and it passes by coils. Hi joit, thanks for reply. At times it may have been egg shaped for more whip like action or orbit, but I did make an effort to try a few times to make my hand movements rotate as round as possible and it still went a long way. What I see with this design, is a simple way to reset or regauge a weighted pendulum that has done work assisted by gravity and other forces and then is easier to rotate pendulum to restart cycle. If a manual version like this can allow manual input from a hand crank of some type to charge batteries or use the output from coils directly to operate a water pump, etc. with much less fatigue and still get the same work done, it seems worth the time to give it a try. I'm still thinking which design to build, single rotor pendulum would be easiest, though air-core coils with magnets sandwiching the coils like axial wind generator would be better I think. Let me hear your thoughts.
peace love light
Tyson

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, I drew the design I'm going to build. It may not be very durable though with such a wide gap between bearings using only a 5/8" threaded shaft, though should last long enough to test and see how it works. Notice how close the coil/cores are together, that should help reduce cogging on the way down. The pendulum will be 3/8" thick by 2" wide steel I have laying around, with the 1" diameter neo magnets stuck to it and glued securely. Let me know what you folks think. Here is the cad pic
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1...tmanualgen.png

Tyson

[gasman]

can you please post a standard iso view?

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks , Hi gasman, thanks for interest. Here is an iso view cad pic.
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/298...istisoview.png
peace love light
Tyson

[Matos de Matos]

Hi folks, I was so intrigued by this toy called a 'fling sock' or sometimes called foxtails and the video of the manually powered pendulum water pump and the Chalkalis setup and of course the amusement ride I went on when i was younger that was mentioned, that I thought I'd start this thread about ideas I have in mind to build. I drew a couple simple ideas I am going to try, though I'm not sure if I will have the two pendulum arms side by side with magnets in them sandwiching a plate with air-core stator coils or just one pendulum arm with coils on either side. I think manual power is a good idea to start with, since if it works well, then it can be demonstrated to people easily and they can try it out for themselves and see how easy it may be. Feel free to post any pendulum ideas you folks may have. Here is the cad pic.
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1...tmanualgen.png
peace love light
Tyson

Hi Tyson:

I removed the drawings because are of topic. Here we shall discuss your idea.
I may open a new thread.
David

[SkyWatcher]

Hi Matos de Matos, thanks for reply and interesting ideas. I will be thinking about those ideas. My mind has been coming up with ideas. First idea is an addition to others ideas, it has the two weights at each end of a rotor, but the rotor can slide back and forth a set distance so when a mechanical thrust is input at between 11 o'clock and 1 o'clock or 5 o'clock and 7 o'clock the pendulum is regauged. This idea is not mine, however a method I thought of to regauge it is, human input using a large lever at the right time to thrust the weight up and restart cycle. Next idea is taking from Johnny Cool Pants and is a modification. Using bellow devices and heavy weights compressing bellow's for air powered generators, though I have thought of efficient reset mechanisms or human interaction as well. I will draw up simple visuals showing these ideas more clearly. We could have farms filled with air powered gravity assisted generators, that is a given. I am cutting the steel pendulum piece for the device I'm building now.
peace love light
Tyson

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, I had an idea today to attach my newly cut steel pendulum piece to my Stanley pulse motor, which is essentially an air-core Hugh Piggott axial flux generator. I found that it if i give the steel pendulum a kick with finger at about 1 o'clock, that it is much easier to rotate than rotating a pulley at the same radius point with finger. I was charging a 6 volt lead acid as the load so that I could maintain a similar charging load level. Without the steel pendulum method, my finger would become noticeably more fatigued. Also, even though it was easier, a lot of the energy was being wasted i think in shaking the machine and table it was on somewhat violently. Though I do think it would be more beneficial to apply a load only when on the downswing acceleration, that way the speed could be made higher and stay within the efficient kick/gravity window of 1 o'clock and make it even easier to rotate. This simple test showed me a few things already. Let me hear your thoughts.
peace love light
Tyson

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, this isn't a pendulum, however it still uses gravity and since I like the idea from johnny cool pants so much, I decided to draw it and offer my ideas for continuous 24 hour reset/cycle operation. These reset ideas are not in the drawing. First idea is to use winches at both sides of device, to pull weighted cart up onto angled bellow and then other winch will pull the weighted cart off the bellow so it can reset itself via the weights on pulleys and cycle starts again. Second idea is to have the weighted cart itself contain a small battery and a small motor geared very high for high torque so it slowly climbs up angled bellow while using low amounts of power, while a small solar panel and/or wind generator can replenish these batteries or a portion of air powered device can replenish the batteries whether carried on board or powering off board winches. And automatic trip switches or other methods can be used to control when weighted cart stops and starts. No need to worry about whether the sun is shining or wind is blowing with this setup. Let me know what you folks think.
Here is a cad pic.
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5...dairgenera.png
peace love light
Tyson