Possible solid state energy device

[Turion]

Possibly some of you have read about Emmett L. Butler and his:
1. Black Widow Bedini device
2. Version with no rotor, and just one magnet
3. Version with two coils and no rotor or magnet
Emmett OU Claim - 11/28/04 - KeelyNet

He wants to share everything he has discovered.

He claims overunity, and I happen to believe him, although I prefer to think of it in the terms COP>1 rather than overunity. Her is WHY I believe him. I have stumbled upon something myself, not through absolute genius, but from screwing around with all kinds of resistance, coils, wires and magnets.
I created this thread because of something I am working on that I wanted to share. I have discussed what I discovered with a couple people and one suggested I had discovered nothing more than a joule thief, but I believe there may be way more to it than that. I have built several models of the joule thief, and this is far different.

I had a bifilar coil of 1000 winds of #23
one 1n4007 diode
one n4001 diode
2n3055 transistor or NTE 130
what I thought was a 100 ohm potentiometer but turned out to be a 1000 ohm potentiometer
what I thought was a 300 ohm resister but turned out to be a 33000 ohm resister. My son was handing me parts to solder in, and I took what he handed me without checking. He is, after all, an engineer!

The plus end of coil one was connected between the plus of my source battery and the negative of my charging battery (Those two battery poles connected to each other)
The negative end of coil one connected to "c" on the transistor
The positive of coil two connected to one side of the potentiometer
The negative of coil two connected to "e" on the transistor
The negative of the source battery was connected to "e" on the transistor
The positive on the charging battery was connected to "c" on the transistor through a 1n4007 diode which had its cathode end toward the battery
The other post of the potentiometer was connected through a 3300 ohm resistor to "b" on the transistor
My bulb, triggered at 90 volts was connected between "c" and "e" on the transistor
"b" on the transistor was connected to "e" on the transistor through a 1n4001 diode with the cathode end toward "b"

I tried to spin up my rotor, but it wouldn't spin. I tried for a while and was very discouraged. So I started with my pot at "zero" and turned it slowly. I noticed that at a certain point when the magnet was directly aligned with the coil, my 90 volt light came on. By leaving the magnet there and tuning the pot, I could get the coil to emit a high pitched sound and the brightness of the light increased. It continued to put out high voltage with very little draw on the source battery. I am in the process of running some experiments now to see just how much I can get out of this and at what cost to my source battery.

This is basically the same KIND of arrangement Mr. Butler has in his "one magnet no rotor version" and the next step is two coils next to each other that cause each other to resonate. I have no idea what the wiring diagram for that circuit is, but I would bet it is worth finding out. I have written to Mr. Butler to see if he is willing to share.

I would hope that some of you with more experience, more technical know how, and more advanced equipment could duplicate this in a few hours and let us all know what you think.

[Joit]

Men, i wish he would let his feelings out and post some useable Pictures and Circuits.

[citfta]

Simple explanation

This is a common experience with the Bedini circuit. If you get the base resistance too high the circuit will go into self oscillation. You do not want to run it with the charge battery disconnected so that the neon will come on. If you do that very much you will blow out the transistor. You can get some charging from running in the solid state mode (with out the wheel turning) but usually the circuit will charge better if you reduce the resistance and allow the wheel to turn. There is a slight modification you can make that will allow it to charge better in solid state mode if you prefer to do that. However if you are just starting out with Bedini type circuits I would recommend you get it working as it is supposed to first. You will learn a lot from the experience. Then you can start studying the thread about solid state charging and go on from there.

Good luck, Carroll

[Turion]

citfta,
I started this thread because I hoped someone had information about how Mr. Butler got the two coils to work in resonance and charge with both coils. I was hoping someone had that circuit. I was just giving an example to show that at least the concepts he was dealing with seemed to have basis in fact. If I remember correctly, my charge coil WAS connected, which is why I got so excited at the time. I never DID get the motor to run, which may very well mean I blew out my transistor as you suggested. I still have it, although I did replace the resistors with the correct ones. I guess I will have to get it down off the shelf and repeat the experiment. I never take my builds apart. I still have all but a couple that I lost when I packed up and moved to California.