Steorn Cracked!!!

[sebosfato]

I believe that the following videos have cleared the principle behind the orbo ability to multiply energy!

YouTube - LEGO perpetual motion

YouTube - LEGO perpetual motion: The Reveal

I'm going to build some schematics and another fellow here from the forum will also give us a hand too.

The difference between this video and steorn,in my opinion reside in the fact that he uses a feedback coil to generate the control pulse witch allow the transistor to collapse the magnetic field reversing the field polarity while steorn use a optocoupler switch to control the transistor. Steorn also input some more energy to allow the motor to gain more rpm as a mean for generating more energy since the energy will depend on cycles.

[TanTric]

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oi fabio!!

can you explain better, how a small trigger coil, will produce enough power to run the bigger coil?

its difficult for me to understand that, so this is just a simple bedini but without battery? or another kind of schematic?

PS: gostei muito da tua malha nova, tens que acabar isso mano, boas melodias, o baixo ta muito bom tambem, bem equalizado, sugiro que trabalhas um pouco mais os ritmos!

abraçao

[tjnlsn255]

Very interesting.....

Now lets get this to work with a car alternator and one battery and capacitor......

We can attach the bedini ssg rotor/flywheel to the shaft of the car alternator so as the rotor spins the shaft of the alternator the alternator generates electricty and charges the battery.......

We are getting closer every day.......

Hopes and Dreams....

Tj

[Joit]

Very interesting.....

Now lets get this to work with a car alternator and one battery and capacitor......

We can attach the bedini ssg rotor/flywheel to the shaft of the car alternator so as the rotor spins the shaft of the alternator the alternator generates electricty and charges the battery.......

We are getting closer every day.......

Hopes and Dreams....

Tj

It is indeed interesting, but not the Way like in the Video.
This Supercap can store enough Energy, to keep this Rotor running
during the Time this Guy talks, but i dont think, that he can fill the Cap with this slow Rotor
Actually, that is no Proof and has less to do with the Steorn System.

[sebosfato]

Hello

@juju

The small coil should only trigger the transistor in doing so it will probably short the coil thus collapsing its field and thus reversing its field polarization. Like turning the magnet as the guy explain in the video.

Actually i'm not sure if he short the coil or if he discharge it on the capacitor witch i guess is what is he doing.

I think that the generator there is only for help keeping some voltage on the coil for the transistor to work properly. Thats where i found it to be the same as steorn but steorn instead of using this coil to trigger the transistor they use the opto switch and instead of using the generator they use a battery.

Legal que tu curtiu a musica, é nao ta pronta ainda mas era so pra tu ter ideia. Valeu Abraçao

@Joit

Yes i know that is not prof, but seems for me quite a lot with what steorn is doing.

I'm going to try it than i report.


Best regards

[Hoxan]

I have rotated rotor with my hand the fastest that i could and I measured power produced with PC fan at that low RPM and results are:
0.4V, 15mA x 2 coils.

Voltages and Currents are AC, and its very hard to rectify such small voltages. Even if I could that would definitely not be enough energy generated to drive coils that detract magnets. I tried with 8cm, 12cm fans and HDD spindle...results are similar.

With 12cm fan i got max total power = 24mVA (not W) .

[freeweaver]

He debunked himself! ...I think?

Guys, hi!

I'm very new to this stuff however, i would like to put my thoughts forward just to check my understanding if thats ok.

In relation to the vid - YouTube - LEGO perpetual motion

In this video, the wheels only resistance is the bearings and air.

The output of the coils is directly proportional to the strength of the magnets and the speed at which they pass. one coil on its own would produce a kickback only slightly smaller then that generated by the attraction of the magnet due to losses. 2 coils produce a kickback large enough to almost overcome the air and bearing resistance. However, at 4.18 in the 1st video he suggests that if he were to mount the wheel vertically, he would have to have 3 coils on it. I guess because of the uneven pressure on the bearings creating more friction. But this suggests that if he were to mount 3 in the horizonal position, there would be enough of a kickback to spin the wheel even with the extra friction.

Anyway, my point is simple, each individual coil provides the same amount of energy, whether or not there are 2 or 10. and because adding coils does not affect hinder the wheels rotation, you can just go on adding coils to increase the collective kickback and thus speed up the rotation, right?

If I am right (I hope I am) then this means there is nothing stopping you adding a second or third wheel on top with just collector coils, is there? I mean as long as the extra weight does not increase the friction/resistance passed that sustainable by the collective kickback...

I believe it's possible to do this with the orbo as well?

peace

FW

[TanTric]

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thanks sebosfato!!

im also trying this, as hoxan sayd, maybe the fan will not produce enough energy to power the coils, but we can try it with a small generator, those ones from portable rechargeble lights!

those will create a significant amount of energy at low velocity, like 2 or 3 volts, and maybe 10 to 30mA will be enough tu run this thing!

BOOM

[sebosfato]

Yes freeweaver

I think that we can add as much coils as the circumference allow!!! you are right !!!


And


Juju i don't really know but my guess is that the central generator is of very low importance. And maybe he choose a fan because its drag is very low!

Of course this is only my opinion.

Boom

[freeweaver]

Thanks for the confirmation sebosfato!

With regard to the generator, I agree that it is of little importance. My guess at this would be that as the computer fan (i have one in my hand) is driven by a small but magnetically hindered motor, when you spin it back-emf is produced. To overcome it he has provided it with some power from the coils.

1. the magnet is attracted to the center of the coil creating current.
2. that current gets split between the cap feeding the fan and the kickback coil.
3. the fan spins without bemf and the magnet is freely repulsed.

This sound about right?

[freeweaver]

In fact, I would think that it's easier to just take out the fan coils and just use the bearings.

I will be trying this as soon as I can get hold of some magnet wire.

[Matthew Jones]

Yes freeweaver

I think that we can add as much coils as the circumference allow!!! you are right !!!
And
Juju i don't really know but my guess is that the central generator is of very low importance. And maybe he choose a fan because its drag is very low!
Of course this is only my opinion. =
Boom

HEY!!!

He has batteries in his coils !!! I'll say this again... HE HAS BATTERIES IN HIS COILS.
Read the comments he admits to it.

Even the reveal video is a lie.

But the concept is not impossible but will never be perpetual. Its just a balancing act that involves using and replacing your potential in the most efficient manner possible.

Matt

[freeweaver]

I'm fully willing to admit that I don't know the first thing about electronics however, I can't find where he admits this. is it in the youtube comments?

All I can find is a couple of comments where he says he span the wheel for a while to charge the cap, which when fully charged, made it spin for 15 mins.

could you link it in? ta

[sebosfato]

I also didn't found any comment from him saying this.

[Matthew Jones]

The last comment on the 14th page of comments. Before that somwhere someone describes the insertion of the battery into the coil and he say "That that is the trick"

Sorry guys

Matt