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  • #16
    this is how it works,

    #brian165fe
    1 year ago 3
    So, was it a precharged capacitor? So, you spun the rotor quite a bit before filming so that you could precharge the capacitor? Is this what you are saying?

    Or are you saying that the rotor 'actively' charges up the capacitor (FROM 0.0V)?

    The reason I am asking is, if you didn't precharge the cap in ANY WAY before the thing was set into motion, then, it IS the type of device those in the OU community are looking for...I dare not say perpetual motion, but, a OU 'conversion' device...
    brian165fe 1 year ago 3


    #Starcross42
    1 year ago
    First comment hits it on the head. You have spoiled the fun for everyone else. This is the level of thinking I was hoping for. Good job.
    Starcross42 1 year ago


    Sorry matt, the concept of it does not require batteries in the coils. perhaps you have mistakenly read two unrelated comments?

    Anyway, I'm going to give it a go i think

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    • #17
      You better read all 14 pages of the comments. You do what you want, but that thing is hokes and I read it correctly

      Ask Ash from panacea he had an argument with the guy about waisting time.

      Look in the Reveal video comments

      Matt

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      • #18
        well S**T... thanks for saving me the effort matt. I was hoping this would be an easy project to get started with, bugger!

        #AdminOnDuty
        1 year ago
        That explains the misleading 'reveal'. Lenz's law (actually Faraday's Law) does not usually involve any magnetic delay which you propose 'is actually a good idea". Of course multiple coils could be cascaded by resonance to split that conservative field but ...

        It would be much easier to place a battery in the end of your coil and switch the coil using the transistor. Everything else is just dressing.
        AdminOnDuty 1 year ago


        #Starcross42
        1 year ago
        And that is, in fact, the trick.

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        • #19
          LOL

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          • #20
            I thought little further and found that the device the guy show will not be self runner. However i discovered why and how to use it for multiplying the energy you input on it. Is the also the same principle steorn is using.

            Why use toroidal coils?
            It has less losses by irradiation!
            The inductance is bigger with less turns!

            Possible problems?
            Its saturation, maybe....

            Why steorn use a source of energy?
            Is to overcome the losses of the wire, witch is the same together with irradiations, that impedes the energy input from the magnet attraction like explained on the video (transformation from potential into kinetic), to come back completely reversed to repulse the coil. So there is still some attraction between the magnet and the coil core even after it has reversed the pulse kind of canceling part of the energy inputed. (this can be carefully designed and calculated to become very minimal)
            I think thats why they choose to use the opto sensing for firing the coil, this way is possible to tune exactly the point where might happen the reversion of polarity (without having to make guess work with thousands of turns of wire) and adding electricity you can keep the energy gained during attraction + the energy injected witch will also allow you to raise the speed with the only expense of the wiring losses practically. All this without that second attraction loss because you are inputing energy thus you completely reverse the pulse. So you input 1 and you get out 1 + interactions per rpm.

            They talk about apply the pulse having no back emf, so is almost a square wave, thats because when the magnet get close to the core it saturate so its inductance become smaller. I'm not sure but i also guess that is also because they apply the pulse little after the point of maximum velocity (explained in the video) so actually as the magnet is not pressing the electrons in the coil anymore but is going to start to get away from it pushing the electrons with it, the reluctance of the coil become very small, allowing to apply a pulse like if it were a resistor so having no reactance.

            They say that the electricity they input during this saturation also become greater when the magnet get far away from the coil due to inductance gain.

            I think i have found a way to make of this gain useful energy if its real. By using a charge pump witch is not a fixed voltage source, but a fluctuating one!!! Than when the gain is maximum you just transfer this into a capacitor.
            This can be done using a comparator witch make the coil to discharge when it reach a min voltage.

            I believe that we should try to not saturate the core.
            I believe that we could find a way to recover the energy gained by inductance magnifying interaction that they claim.
            I believe its for real.

            The toroid should be placed with its field parallel to the motion. ( the wire should be vertical if rotor is horizontal). Of course with right polarity! The most difficult part.

            i think orbo is not so smart but is a starting point. Maybe they already have an advanced device!

            I would do it completely full of coils and many magnets and a big wheel, and half of them should be connected with its antiparallel as to be drive together.

            So you have 8 coils than you have 4 driving circuits.

            So you have 100 coils than you have 50 driving circuits.

            Every thing must be tuned perfectly!!!

            We can amplify the energy and with the right mean for transforming this energy gain into electricity again you can make it probably to self run!!!
            While still generating useful power. However you need to start it up to a speed where it generate the amount of free power you want to consume and than use only this, (no overload) otherwise it will start stopping. It will self generate up to a certain amount but will stop if you load it too much! We should have a control unity that send more feedback for accelerating it as you need more power to have the biggest efficiency possible.


            In my imagination device spinning in my head i'm seeing this behavior!

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            • #21
              I wrote to him personally from memory and made him aware of the impracticality of wasting peoples time especially genuine researchers.We all have far more practical ways to spend our time. If he had a concept to illustrate he should of done it in a far better way then as a hoax .

              Ash

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              • #22
                Originally posted by freeweaver View Post
                ... thanks for saving me the effort matt. I was hoping this would be an easy project to get started with, bugger!

                #AdminOnDuty
                1 year ago
                That explains the misleading 'reveal'. Lenz's law (actually Faraday's Law) does not usually involve any magnetic delay which you propose 'is actually a good idea". Of course multiple coils could be cascaded by resonance to split that conservative field but ...

                It would be much easier to place a battery in the end of your coil and switch the coil using the transistor. Everything else is just dressing.
                AdminOnDuty 1 year ago


                #Starcross42
                1 year ago
                And that is, in fact, the trick.
                LOL, I wrote that over a year ago and barely remember it
                "Amy Pond, there is something you need to understand, and someday your life may depend on it: I am definitely a madman with a box." ~The Doctor

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                • #23
                  LOL, thanks Harvey, on to the tried and tested i think- SSG as a place to start?

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                  • #24
                    After spending countless hours and thousands of dollars I recommend going solar or with a wind turbine, otherwise you'll probably be disappointed. Use a proven technology, its very unlikely you'll discover anything that actually works!

                    Mark

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                    • #25
                      Steorn Cracked!!!

                      Originally posted by sebosfato View Post
                      I believe that the following ..........sdepend on cycles.

                      "Steorn Cracked!!!"

                      ... couldn't say it better myself !

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Mark View Post
                        After spending countless hours and thousands of dollars I recommend going solar or with a wind turbine, otherwise you'll probably be disappointed. Use a proven technology, its very unlikely you'll discover anything that actually works!

                        Mark
                        Well thats depressing. We're all just waisting money and time. No need to look and see just take Marks word for it. LOL I wonder why my stuff appears to work.

                        Nothing personal. I'll keep looking.

                        Thanks anyway.

                        Matt

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                        • #27
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                          i really dont understand this people, wasting our time with fake devices!

                          i wonder if he have feel any hapyness by doing this, like hundreds others on you tube...

                          whats the purpose? i really dont understand...


                          Originally posted by ashtweth View Post
                          I wrote to him personally from memory and made him aware of the impracticality of wasting peoples time especially genuine researchers.We all have far more practical ways to spend our time. If he had a concept to illustrate he should of done it in a far better way then as a hoax .

                          Ash
                          Last edited by TanTric; 07-21-2010, 02:42 PM.
                          Light, I Am!

                          You are Not a Body that has a Spirit, You are a Spirit that Has a Body! There is no Path to Peace, Peace is the Path!

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                          • #28
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                            sory but that dont make any sense to me...

                            its unlikely we will discover? so whats the reason that brings you to this forum?

                            i dont see any thread here that show people how to make our own solar painels, or wind turbine that output enough power to sustain a home!

                            do you know how much it costs a solar or wind system sufficient to power a home? im pretty shore that is much more that you will ever spend in electric bills on your lifetime!

                            500eur per year X 50 years = 25.000eur , please show me where i can buy a 10/20Kw system for less then that!

                            not to mention the hudge bank of batterys that you will need to store the energy, because there's not always wind, neither sun!

                            and this ones will never be viable solutions to power our cars (inside them), so you dont need to charge it at your home and be limited by the battery autonomy!

                            free energy is there, and as been there all the time, dont need to be invented, just discovered! there's an infinite amount of things to found, or do you think that humanity have allready found them all?

                            everyday new things are discovered and nothing its impossible!

                            you are free to take your own points of view, but please dont discourage people from searching what its clear to us that exists and have been prooven many times in the past!

                            if you have spent thousands of dollars its because maybe you just been fooled by folowing others devices, instead of creating your own!

                            many people feel that free energy exists, and it is the ultimate goal of humanity, and i feel also, in the case that is truth, it will not be complex or expensive (to build that kind of devices, otherway you r right and we can stay with solar and wind because FE will never be viable solution)

                            for free energy to come out, it will have to be a device that any person with small skills can build, and it will have to be cheap to build!

                            i believe in free energy, and i believe it will free the world, and the only way for that to happen, it must be in the conditions i stated above!!

                            hugs



                            Originally posted by Mark View Post
                            After spending countless hours and thousands of dollars I recommend going solar or with a wind turbine, otherwise you'll probably be disappointed. Use a proven technology, its very unlikely you'll discover anything that actually works!

                            Mark
                            Last edited by TanTric; 07-21-2010, 03:00 PM.
                            Light, I Am!

                            You are Not a Body that has a Spirit, You are a Spirit that Has a Body! There is no Path to Peace, Peace is the Path!

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                            • #29


                              yeap, its better to believe in mark, and stop folowing our dreams!

                              guys, jobs done... its better to close the forum, we will not find anything!

                              thank you mark for open our eyes!!





                              Originally posted by Matthew Jones View Post
                              Well thats depressing. We're all just waisting money and time. No need to look and see just take Marks word for it. LOL I wonder why my stuff appears to work.

                              Nothing personal. I'll keep looking.

                              Thanks anyway.

                              Matt
                              Last edited by TanTric; 07-21-2010, 03:07 PM.
                              Light, I Am!

                              You are Not a Body that has a Spirit, You are a Spirit that Has a Body! There is no Path to Peace, Peace is the Path!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by TanTric View Post
                                i really dont understand this people, wasting our time with fake devices!

                                i wonder if he have feel any hapyness by doing this, like hundreds others on you tube...

                                whats the purpose? i really dont understand...
                                Hundrets other on Youtube, there are more Mylows,
                                and even not such Guys, who do it with Intention, that Peoples work on it, like Mylow had,
                                but to make you ridicoulus, and that in a penetrating Way.

                                Every Physic Guy, what studied the Laws of Thermodynamic and all other Laws,
                                will tell you, that PM is not possible, and all you do is, to waste your Time here.

                                I remeber a Guy, what made something similar to this Lego toy,
                                and after a while, guess he did wait, if someone praise him now,
                                he showed, that he used a hidden Transformer, just with the Intention,
                                to show, how useless it is, to look for Free Energy,
                                and that he even did say at his 'Reveal'.


                                Something like this
                                YouTube - Red Green Show - Perpetual Motion Machine
                                and another Guy, what made a Box, where a Arm comes out, and turn a switch off, wich stops the Machine again.
                                Very funny maybe for some, but does not help really,
                                and they are more serious, to make the whole Theme ridicoulus as to help.
                                So noone need to think, there are only good Intentions.

                                And this Toy above here has not really, not so say, nothing to do with Steorn,
                                therefor the whole Headline is wrong and should be deleted imho,
                                because it only leads into a wrong direction.
                                Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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