Smokey Yunick's Hot-Vapor Engine

[deggers]

This month's Hot Rod magazine features some more info on his legendary engine.

What Ever Happened To Smokey's Hot-Vapor Engine? - Hot Rod Magazine

[Ted Ewert]

I remember reading all about that engine when it first came out. I naively assumed it would be in every car churned out of Detroit within a few years.
The Pogue carburetor still ranks at the top of my list of technologies which would make the internal combustion engine a viable and efficient energy converter. Just think, 150 MPG has been available for the last 80 years but has been denied to us so we can pay 5 to 10 times more money to drive our cars. It reminds me once again of how well our "free enterprise" system works.

[Cherryman]

It isn't the first time...

This 1973 opel / shell car did 376 miles per Gallon... ( aLso if i remember correctly with preheating fuel)

They seem to have "forgotten" about it..

Shell Opel

[jibbguy]

Nice find!

Lol Smokey had to return the car to Pontiac "for crushing" !! I never knew that part of the story.

That article tries hard to explain why Detroit never acted on it. They actually try to blame it on "not invented here syndrome". Which, would never stop any corporation from making money if they wanted to in the slightest... Engineers can go piss up a rope if they don't like the decision of the Accountants or Marketing; and that's the way it always has been in American corporations.

Total and LAME BS to hide the suppression factor which a mainstream article won't mention. See, it even admits that Detroit turned him down; then he tried to do it himself (and put out kits to modify economy 4-cylinders), and got barraged with constant law suits to stop it. There was no way they were gonna let him do that; for one thing, it would make the rest of the industry look totally corrupt (which of course it was and still is).

Every single attempt through the years to greatly increase mileage was squashed.... Every one. Every time a very high-mileage car came out, it was either stopped from being sold here (there are several Japanese models that were stopped), or if it did make it to showrooms, it eventually was either taken off the market or "nerfed" for lower mileage. We are expected to believe, that in 110 years, they cannot find any better ways to significantly increase mileage

Lol one time even Ford screwed up and put an electric choke heater on the Mustang II (i remember this, my GF had one back in '80), and it was getting way too good mileage because this choke would pre-heat the gas (somewhere around the "45 mpg", but it was only listed for about "35" highway i think). They changed the choke the next year Man, that car was a real mechanical POS but it did get good mileage

Lol a perfect example stated right there, is the standard Feiro that got 34 MPG, and it was a PERFORMANCE car from the early 1980's. How many cars get that good mileage sold here TODAY in 2010 ??

Lol, and now GM is getting GRANT MONEY to work on something they had and suppressed over 30 years ago?

Well, the good news is, i cannot imagine any similar system being protected by Patents any more. Like this one, they would all be expired long ago. A person could actually start marketing a Pogue Carburetor today as an aftermarket mod (although if they were smart, they wouldn't try to manufacture it the U.S. but do it in some other country that is not so obviously corrupt and utterly controlled by oil interests and their allies).

And they brought up the horrible specter of "Detonation"! OMG the Detonators are coming! Hide your women and children! Move your family into your bomb shelters!... What every industry-supporting shill has tattooed on their behinds, lol. Well, obviously Smokey and his associates knew it was and always has been a "boogieman", a red herring excuse not to increase AFR . He PROVED it, he obviously knew how to get around it; he showed Detroit how to, and so have others.

The article also mentions Sweden working on something along these lines, this would probably be Saab imo, which was working on several interesting and "radical" things but got gutted by a series of take-overs and sell-offs, so it is uncertain what they will do now.

These people have a real problem. They know that if they do come out with something that doubles or triples mileage, that they will need to explain why it took 70 years. But on the other hand, many more people are starting to question why the hell they haven't. And now GM , essentially now owned by the US government, is holding the suppression bag directly for improving ICE and Diesel technologies that

CANNOT POSSIBLY BE CALLED "NATIONAL SECURITY" RELATED !!

That means, that government bureaucrats can be jailed for it; as this suppression is clearly RICO Act Racketeering, Anti-Trust (since they all do it together while supposed to be "competitors"), and Stock Manipulation (since these corps all have Public Stock offerings that would suffer if new techs came out). And, it doesn't matter even if "shelvings" happened 20 years ago or beyond the "Statutes of Limitations", since they exist at all; they are still manipulations of market ad Racketeering no matter how long ago they happened.

That means that GM executives could still be prosecuted for what happened close to 30 years ago regarding Smokey's inventions; if there are any memos or WITNESSES who know the truth still alive.

[deggers]

I remember reading that Popular Science article OVER and OVER! I still have the original mag somewhere.

Popular Science - Google Books

See page 82.

I love reading everything I can find about Smokey. He was so brilliant and talented.

[Matthew Jones]

I remember reading that Popular Science article OVER and OVER! I still have the original mag somewhere.

Popular Science - Google Books

See page 82.

I love reading everything I can find about Smokey. He was so brilliant and talented.

Thats a good article. The magazine also has a good article about a guy who made Hot water solar panels from concrete. Thats pretty interesting.

We'll never see anything like that engine in the public market place. Especially with electric on the rise. Its funny how anybody could still have faith in free market capitalism after reading history like that.

How do you fix a problem like that without hurting people in the process. Especially in light of the type of corporately controlled election system most of the free world practices.

Matt

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