Gray Circuit Malfunction

[Michael John Nunnerley]

you are right Aaron

Lamare,

That was a couple years ago - results on the Meyer tests were
not impressive but that doesn't mean anything in regards to your
project.

Come to think of it, that step charging on the transformer the
way you mention it before seems also similar to Michael J.N.'s
STEAP experiments.

Hi All

Yes Aaron is right and I can give you a little explination as to what happens and hope it helps all.

Parametric oscillation, yes those words again; well, I will try to explain, on the ON cycle the coil is seen as only half its number of turns, but on the OFF cycle the BEMF sees the full coil or double, which ever way you want to see it. The effect is creating two distinct phases and two distinct frequencies, one the applied frequency and the other the frequency obtained by the addition of the cap and extended coil on the BEMF. Along with these two base frequencies also appears harmonics of these two frequencies. You could call the start frequency the carrier and the secound the carried.

Also noticed on tests I have done is that you have on the output Two distinct voltage phases where it was measure to earth circuit as 1:2 ratio, for example 30v and 60v giving across the two phases 90v.

By making a special transformer, which is not a stepup transformer, all windings are equal, I could increase the voltage by a multiple of 3. I still have to do a lot of work on this but it now has involved the electron beam tech: that I am working on where I use two distinct high voltages. My eyes have been opened on the similarities to Gray and co. but there is still too much to do on this to show real usable power, but the system IS over COP1.

Just a slight side issue, if you want to close loop on a battery operated system you should try two batteries in series being charged and powering from only the front battery of those two, e.g. 12v supply and couple another in series to that battery and charge across the two "24v".

Mike

[lamare]

Parametric oscillation, yes those words again; well, I will try to explain, on the ON cycle the coil is seen as only half its number of turns, but on the OFF cycle the BEMF sees the full coil or double, which ever way you want to see it. The effect is creating two distinct phases and two distinct frequencies, one the applied frequency and the other the frequency obtained by the addition of the cap and extended coil on the BEMF. Along with these two base frequencies also appears harmonics of these two frequencies. You could call the start frequency the carrier and the secound the carried.

Hi Mike,

I have seen some stuff about getting free energy by somehow changing the parameters during operation. I thought it was Alexander Frolov, but I can't find that now. I also saw some video's of a guy in a wheelchair, but I don't remember his name. Did find this one with google, though: Polarization of Capacitors

However, this is a totally different technique as what I am talking about and to be honest, I don't know much about parametric oscillation.

What I am talking about is using the energy from the electric field, pretty much directly, as taught by Bearden in his "don't kill the dipole". So, this is a totally different beast then magnetism.

As far as I can tell, Gray did what I explain, or better, that's what he does in this schematic. IMHO:

Now you may be right that there is a second working principle that applies to his later motors, I don't know. This one looks totally different:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post108359

Now I can't really say much about this one. All I can say is that it doesn't work along the principles of my theory, because there is no HF in there as far as I can tell. This one uses straight spark gaps, but no "resistive element" which gives you the HF oscillator. I don't really know wether or not this actually worked. As far as I am aware, his later motors didn't work, because of the dissapearance of Marvin Cole. But it could also be that this one did work and used a different principle.

To make a long story short: I think your theory is promising, but I don't think it matches the schematic Gray is showing with the CSET.


-- Arend --



Update: Now I remember who I meant. Don Smith:
http://www.free-energy-info.com/Smith.pdf

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Hello to all - I've been going about planning some things out in
pursuit of getting my non-functioning system to work, and have been
informed that the diagram I've reposted above does not in fact
represent a working concept... True?

I've not yet gone through with anything besides planning, so
nothing lost if this is the case. Honestly I see no reason why
it wouldn't work, comparing it to Bedini's diagram.

Aaron, I greatly appreciate your efforts to demonstrate a functioning
conversion-tube system... The video you have posted to YouTube entitled
'Gray Recovery in 4 Places' is awesome! Have you by chance illustrated
this setup in a way that would allow duplication? I'm familiar with
a couple of your other schematics as well, although
can't claim to fully understand them yet.