Simple COP 3 with 4 transformers in series?

[lamare]

As I explain in my article (under construction) Article:Free Electric Energy in Theory and Practice - PESWiki it is the active vacuum that actually powers our circuits, as Bearden has told us for years. He also keeps on talking about not killing the dipole, but how do you do that?

Yesterday, I tought about driving a TF in resonance using a Bedini coil (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...i-circuit.html), but it appears to be difficult to get this really working. However, if you do drive a coil at its natural resonance frequency, one can easily put four identical coils in series. Since they all resonate at 1/4 wavelength, you get a full wave with 4 in series. If you leave the terminals at the end open, you can in principle use any multiple of 2, since then the open ends will have high voltage, zero current.

However, if you use multiples of 4, the first and last terminals will be in phase, so you might just as well connect them.

Then you would get the attached schematic.

This looks very interesting to try, since even when not driven in resonance, you will see the same voltages and the same current flowing trough the secondaries of all 4 transformers if they are loaded equally. Since you're driving only one of them, you should get 3 times as much power out as you have to put in...

So, if someone happens to have 4 identical transformers laying around and a bit of spare time, this may be most interesting to try...

Do you need to drive the coils at their resonance frequency?


Of course, you can put the secondaries is series or in parallel to power a heavy load if you please.

[lamare]

This stuff keeps on going trough my mind. It looks like I have been a bit too optimistic, but I'm pretty sure it will work when you drive the coils at their natural resonance frequency. If you don't do that, there will be a significant current going trough the secondary of your driving transformer and since that is coupled with the primary of your driving transformer, you will have to pay.

However, when the circuit is in resonance, then you have a circuit that is basically the same as has been used for years in antenna in order to get antenna gain. See for example:
Build a 2.4GHz Vertical antenna by dxzone.com

The original antenna I built was touted, according the directions, as yielding a 3dBi gain (as I built a 4-element, not an 8-element antenna).

So, according to this, you get 3 dB gain, or double the amount of power, if you use 4 elements. This gain basically specifies the amount of power that is being emitted when compared to a single element antenna, a 1/4 lambda antenna. This suggests we may be looking at 'just' COP 1.5...

However, basically the same thing has been done by none less than Dr. Stiffler. I have experimented with his system and according to my measurements, he is not driving his coil at 1/4 lambda:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post65723

I got a result which surprised me: the lowest oscillation frequency I saw was at about 4.5 MHz, which was measured by counting the peaks on an analog scope screen, with an accuracy of about +/- 0.3 MHz, I guess. This means that the 1/4 lambda frequency of our 144 turn coil must be at about 4.5 MHz. [...] I could also get an oscillation at about 13.25 - 13.5 MHz. It appeared the TL would be brighter then as with the 9.5 MHz oscillation.

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I wrapped the power leads a couple of times trough a ring-core (from an old PC PS) and attached an amp meter in the power line, connected between the PS and the ring core. It appeared to measure the current normally, which varied from about 20 mA to 60 mA. I haven't written anything down on the current measurements, but it appeared the current would be less, the higher the oscillation frequency and it appeared also to become less, once the coil was loaded with a TL tube.

So, this has been shown to work at high frequencies and it has been shown to be capable of giving some kind of gain. Dr. Stiffler's stuff suggests this is a real gain in terms of COP....

[ewizard]

That circuit looks a lot like one form kooler on ou forum he posted and also one he sent me in a PM. It's something loosely related to the TPU. I believe he was getting some noteworthy effects from it. I think he mentioned it is difficult to tune.

[lamare]

That circuit looks a lot like one form kooler on ou forum he posted and also one he sent me in a PM. It's something loosely related to the TPU. I believe he was getting some noteworthy effects from it. I think he mentioned it is difficult to tune.

Tuning could be as easy as winding a pickup aka tickler coil around the transformer you drive and use that for feedback, just as you would when you would make an oscillator:

Oscillator Design - Amateur Radio Wiki

I have done that some time ago with Dr. Stiffler's oscillator:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post65723

[lamare]

Do you need to drive the coils at their resonance frequency?

Looks like I can answer this question too now. See what I posted here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...rolysis-5.html

The key is into how to resonate the load train. You need to get the whole train in full-wave resonance, which is at a 4 times higher frequency than you would normally do. In order to get the power, you need to feed it also with a frequency (modulation) that is much higher than that, which is why Puharich did it the way he did and he definately did that correctly.

So, if you want real power, you should drive it with a frequency 100 or 1000 times the natural resonance frequency of the transformers and feed that to one open end of one of the primaries. Then you can tap off all the power you want from the "primaries" of the others.

So, you basically make a simple sine-wave HF oscillator and use that to get the whole thing into resonance. If the frequency you "transmit" is x times lambda, you basically get an "x lambda" antenna, which will give you a considerable, *real* gain.



Will this work, or do we have to split the circuit in two and use modulation the way Puharich did?

[DrStiffler]

Looks like I can answer this question too now. See what I posted here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...rolysis-5.html



So, if you want real power, you should drive it with a frequency 100 or 1000 times the natural resonance frequency of the transformers and feed that to one open end of one of the primaries. Then you can tap off all the power you want from the "primaries" of the others.

So, you basically make a simple sine-wave HF oscillator and use that to get the whole thing into resonance. If the frequency you "transmit" is x times lambda, you basically get an "x lambda" antenna, which will give you a considerable, *real* gain.



Will this work, or do we have to split the circuit in two and use modulation the way Puharich did?

@lamare
It has been many years now, but I took a 70 hour course in 'Antenna Theory and Design', one of the first being offered in the early 70's. Anyway you have to be careful when you talk of antenna gain as it is not a true gain, what is happening is the radiation pattern is modified and concentrated into a focused area. I used collinear antennas for some time when I was active in ham radio and they did just this, they pulled the energy lost into the upper levels down to a low profile and this energy was greater for the receiver in uv/m, yet there was no OU here. We had a simple rule of thumb about obtaining a greater distance from a transmitter (specific of course to the freq range) and that was to go twice the distance, (a) double your antenna height or (2) quadruple your transmitter power. A beam antenna is a great example of the focusing of the energy, yet there is no OU involved.

Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying, but to my knowledge a conventional antenna arrangement only modifies the pattern and gives one a moment of thought in the result.

[TanTric]

end of the story, is the energy problem solved? can you recirculate the energy and self sustain the transformers, maybe with caps?

sory dont take me wrong, im an ignorant, just asking.. hugs

Since you're driving only one of them, you should get 3 times as much power out as you have to put in...

[lamare]

Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying, but to my knowledge a conventional antenna arrangement only modifies the pattern and gives one a moment of thought in the result.

@Doc: As usual, you are completely right.

You can do this, but you have to put the transformers 2 by 2 in series, and drive them the way Puharich did. Puharich drove only 1 load, and het put his rectifier before his "insulating transformer". That's a mistake, because then your power amplifier must deliver a considerable amount of power to the insulating transformer, because of the sharp edge at the zero crossing. Other than that, he did it right.

So, what you need to do is drive the power amp with a modulated signal and put the rectifier *after* the transformer, such that you drive two identical loads in opposit phase. Then you can drive the transformers with very, very little power, as I posted here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post108658

@TanTric: in theory, yes. I have analysed the systems of Edwin Gray, Stanley Meyer and Puharich. I finally figured out how they worked and the all used the exact same principle.

However, all of them got it only half way. They "split" only the "positive". If you do this right, you can figuratively speaking drive your car from a 9V battery cell. Of course, that's a bit of an overstatement, but you do get very, very, very much more power out than you have to put in yourself.

Now this is not a perpetuum mobile, as I posted here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post108418

I know this will be hard to grasp if you've been bombarded with "perpetuum mobile is impossible", but this is not a perpetuum mobile. It is simply a different kind of solar cell that uses not the light of the sun but the light emitted by charge carriers: the electric field, the wheelwork of nature as Tesla said in 1892 (!!):

[DrStiffler]

@Doc: As usual, you are completely right.

You can do this, but you have to put the transformers 2 by 2 in series, and drive them the way Puharich did. Puharich drove only 1 load, and het put his rectifier before his "insulating transformer". That's a mistake, because then your power amplifier must deliver a considerable amount of power to the insulating transformer, because of the sharp edge at the zero crossing. Other than that, he did it right.

So, what you need to do is drive the power amp with a modulated signal and put the rectifier *after* the transformer, such that you drive two identical loads in opposit phase. Then you can drive the transformers with very, very little power, as I posted here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post108658

@TanTric: in theory, yes. I have analysed the systems of Edwin Gray, Stanley Meyer and Puharich. I finally figured out how they worked and the all used the exact same principle.

However, all of them got it only half way. They "split" only the "positive". If you do this right, you can figuratively speaking drive your car from a 9V battery cell. Of course, that's a bit of an overstatement, but you do get very, very, very much more power out than you have to put in yourself.

Now this is not a perpetuum mobile, as I posted here:
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post108418

@lamare

So, what you need to do is drive the power amp with a modulated signal and put the rectifier *after* the transformer, such that you drive two identical loads in opposit phase.

Okay I have been able to follow this, yet I seem to be missing something. If we for example drive a coil bifiler for example at 180' out of phase, we should create a very strong scalar wave. Now if we drive to legs of a system (isolated) so that we have the Pos. and Neg. split, we will have a very interesting condition in the lattice between the two systems. This particular area of space will contain a very large amount of energy that will propagate out through the lattice and will be lost to the circuits.

Think of this as two stones being dropped into a pool of water, say a meter apart, then what results in the center as the waves confront one another? I do not see how this energy is utilized.