The ultimate secret of free energy: Split the postive AND the negative

[lamare]

One more thing on relativity

The fact that Einstein's relativity theory is based on an error, does not mean it cannot produce correct results.

The Lorentz transform is mathematically correct. I trust Thornhill on that one. So, Einstein does give you the correct numbers, no doubt about that. It's just that your image of reality is blurred trough a pair of very awkward lenses known as the Lorentz transform.

That basically means you do get the correct results, but you have no idea what you're really looking at.

[Jbignes5]

The best reference.

I would like you guys to reread this document fully. Try to understand that what Tesla is doing is really what Dr. Stiffler did in his experiment with the diode in water. The effects were different but the method is the same. I'll explain later.

"Experiments with Alternate Currents of High Potential and High Frequency"

Keep in mind about the static shielding of the bulbs to direct the charges to only enter or exit where Tesla wanted them to through a material that reacted to the flow. Well what Dr. Stiffler did with the diode is the same thing except the material was water. The reaction was disassociation of the water in that flow process.

I have made additions and combined Ideas presented in that paper to for a completely balanced system for generation and a tap to extract all the charges one would need to put into another traditional system. This combination of Tesla's ideas makes a system that uses the same principles of Tesla and coincidently Dr. Stiffler who rediscovered that method.

I know Dr. Stiffler hates the Tesla reference but you have to admit that it is the same principle that Tesla saw. Trust me Dr. Stiffler being in the company of Tesla is a good thing. Tesla was an observer. One that could see beyond the box. Being compared to Tesla should be an honor not something to shun.

[lamare]

Being compared to Tesla should be an honor not something to shun.

Amen, brother, amen.

[DrStiffler]

A better picture

@lamare

You may enjoy looking at a little better picture of the 'Energy Lattice' it is more explanatory than what I have posted public yet. The fine detail is far to deep for a general form so this overview is better.

All waveforms (frequencies) of the universe ride on the energy conduits between energy nodes. Each node when opened can offer the entire energy of the universe as it is a virtual connection. You can not increase energy beyond this level, but what is so clear is that you only have to fully access one set of nodes to obtain unlimited energy. The lattice appears three dimensional in such a pictorial view, yet when interfaced it acts as one node set, therefore when you connect say to 1500 node pairs, they all resolve to one node pair, so is mother nature.

To open a node is what you all are looking for, the amount of energy you obtain is how wide you open the door. Think of a door and a mass of people wanting to get through to the other side. What factors affect the number of people per period? I guess most will guess first, how wide is the door, then we say how fast can the people move through, how much mass is each person. All the factors affect who and what gets through the door and even if the door is open.

http://67.76.235.52/images/wake15.jpg

[Jbignes5]

Now thats an interesting analogy Dr...

Very very interesting indeed.

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

I've come to a similar conclusion regarding nodes.
Seems to me that a node which has 2 connections must have about equal flows from both sides to sum in a compression or rarefaction at the node.
Now look at the coil that Tesla tells how to construct in "EXPERIMENTS WITH ALTERNATE CURRENTS OF HIGH POTENTIAL AND HIGH FREQUENCY".
The primary and secondary are split into 2 equal sections turned in opposite directions and connected in series.

Why did he do this? I think it's to simulate a node set! A section of a lattice. A superconductor junction if you will.

Does anyone remember J. Naudin's "bifilar vs bucking coils" test?
JLN Labs - The TEP Project - Bifilar VS Bucking coils

He didn't do the one last test that he should have. What if his pickup coil was a bucking coil? Then we'd have something similar to Tesla's device.

If current flows in series between 2 coils that create opposing fields, would that not be a magnetic nodal configuration? 2 nodes on the ends, 1 antinode in the center.

On the other hand, if 1 continuous magnetic field span the set of coils, there would be an electric node set! Equal voltage on each end, opposite in the middle.

I said it seems to me like it's a superconductor junction, because of the diamagnetic configuration, and the electrons would be going in balanced opposite directions, so perhaps is could create/utilize paired electrons and tunneling!
Has anyone seen that picture of Tesla's Wydenclyff tower that is the same design as this coil, but with a 3rd secondary connected at the antinode? Like a better version of his magnifying transmitter, run the opposing fields against each other at the resonant frequency of the middle coil?

[Jbignes5]

Might I add this?

Check this drawing out and see if this is what you are talking about....


http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...slacircuit.jpg

The second half of the circuit after the first oil filled transformer from the left is statically shielded except for the in and out antennas to better separate the charges and not allow the environment supply the charges directly.

Although some of the circuit I have shown is incorrect per Tesla's design. Stick to the initial Tesla design for the driving transformer and shield everything after that including the transformer itself. The tap can be unshielded but that transformer needs to have the same shielding. The output doesn't need it because we want it to react like conventional electronics.

Maybe this will need to be added?

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...acircuit-1.jpg

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

that seems similar, except only the primary is labeled bucking. It would be like Naudin's experiment. By having ONLY the primary in a bucking configuration, I think it would create a situation were it can't couple to the secondary, just like hum-bucking pickups on a guitar won't let an ambient magnetic field register. That allows for that nice ring-down on the secondary at its resonant frequency without interference from the primary
(on a side note, John Hutchison recommends for a Tesla coil to use a toroidal primary with a regular solenoidal secondary, along with a shorted toroidal choke on the other end of the secondary. Seems good for unhindered resonance by eliminating magnetic orientation of the input from being a factor and converting it to magnetic intensity with no net directional orientation.) very interesting
That doesn't seem like it's the effect we're looking for. This is about impulses (I THINK?)

[Jbignes5]

Umm...

I think it has to do with creating a permanent static charge to attract charges into the second half of the circuit. The output would seem to be direct current not pulsed. My bad I think...
The first half of the circuit is for the impulse and we use that first impulse to step charge the second layden jar to have a stable static pull on the external charges between the antenna's (second revised picture link). What is tapped off is only gonna make the operation that more efficient I am thinking. Meaning that the more you use those charges the more that gets pulled from between the flow of the antenna's so that it balances the two potentials out, which would never happen if you are tapping the charges out via the load transformer.
So it seems to me that once the flow is created it will always be in an imbalanced state between to two potentials. The only thing that would change would be the difference in that balance and what gets transformed into work through the load circuit.

I think this is the process that Tesla used in his Pierce arrow experiment. And why the motor had to have a fan outfitted to it for increased air flow to cool it. Since the motor was very very inefficient to convert all the charges into power for the motor it got transformed into heat for the balance.

I also think that the motor to be ran or load has to be figured into the second half of the circuit to complete the balance through resonance.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

My idea back in 1998

@lamare

You may enjoy looking at a little better picture of the 'Energy Lattice' it is more explanatory than what I have posted public yet. The fine detail is far to deep for a general form so this overview is better.

All waveforms (frequencies) of the universe ride on the energy conduits between energy nodes. Each node when opened can offer the entire energy of the universe as it is a virtual connection. You can not increase energy beyond this level, but what is so clear is that you only have to fully access one set of nodes to obtain unlimited energy. The lattice appears three dimensional in such a pictorial view, yet when interfaced it acts as one node set, therefore when you connect say to 1500 node pairs, they all resolve to one node pair, so is mother nature.

To open a node is what you all are looking for, the amount of energy you obtain is how wide you open the door. Think of a door and a mass of people wanting to get through to the other side. What factors affect the number of people per period? I guess most will guess first, how wide is the door, then we say how fast can the people move through, how much mass is each person. All the factors affect who and what gets through the door and even if the door is open.

http://67.76.235.52/images/wake15.jpg

@ Dr. Stiffler and all

Back in 1998 after seeing an experiment of levitation using very high frequency "GHz" and a lot of power, a three sided pyrimid was lifted off the floor, I can't remember the name of the person but maybe someone has seen this.

He used copper balls and brass tubes to make as near perfect three sided pyrimid and base. The brass tubes were wave guides and he fed into one of the copper balls a GHZ frequency which travelled down all the wave guides and the whole thing lifted off the floor.

This led me to thinking of the lattice and how it is made up and the following diagram is my take on this which is very similar to Dr. Stiffler.

This was work done with a good collegue Jacques Benoi who lived in France.
I have always wondered if we could have created an artificial lattice segment so as to prove this theory, but we never did.

The idea was two make six identical coils to be used as the node links, each coil would be 120 degrees out of phase with the next and at one node apply a HF HV charge. A pickup coil would be used in conjunction with a scope to monitor the circuit. This is basic and would require a little more to the circuit, but you get the idea. Each node would be a three plate cap.

Mike

[DrStiffler]

I've come to a similar conclusion regarding nodes.
Seems to me that a node which has 2 connections must have about equal flows from both sides to sum in a compression or rarefaction at the node.
Now look at the coil that Tesla tells how to construct in "EXPERIMENTS WITH ALTERNATE CURRENTS OF HIGH POTENTIAL AND HIGH FREQUENCY".
The primary and secondary are split into 2 equal sections turned in opposite directions and connected in series.

Why did he do this? I think it's to simulate a node set! A section of a lattice. A superconductor junction if you will.

Does anyone remember J. Naudin's "bifilar vs bucking coils" test?
JLN Labs - The TEP Project - Bifilar VS Bucking coils

He didn't do the one last test that he should have. What if his pickup coil was a bucking coil? Then we'd have something similar to Tesla's device.

If current flows in series between 2 coils that create opposing fields, would that not be a magnetic nodal configuration? 2 nodes on the ends, 1 antinode in the center.

On the other hand, if 1 continuous magnetic field span the set of coils, there would be an electric node set! Equal voltage on each end, opposite in the middle.

I said it seems to me like it's a superconductor junction, because of the diamagnetic configuration, and the electrons would be going in balanced opposite directions, so perhaps is could create/utilize paired electrons and tunneling!
Has anyone seen that picture of Tesla's Wydenclyff tower that is the same design as this coil, but with a 3rd secondary connected at the antinode? Like a better version of his magnifying transmitter, run the opposing fields against each other at the resonant frequency of the middle coil?

**You may want to also look at what I was doing at the same time TEP was in the works.

Energy Conversion by Articulated Transfer

[Armagdn03]

@lamare

You may enjoy looking at a little better picture of the 'Energy Lattice' it is more explanatory than what I have posted public yet. The fine detail is far to deep for a general form so this overview is better.

All waveforms (frequencies) of the universe ride on the energy conduits between energy nodes. Each node when opened can offer the entire energy of the universe as it is a virtual connection. You can not increase energy beyond this level, but what is so clear is that you only have to fully access one set of nodes to obtain unlimited energy. The lattice appears three dimensional in such a pictorial view, yet when interfaced it acts as one node set, therefore when you connect say to 1500 node pairs, they all resolve to one node pair, so is mother nature.

To open a node is what you all are looking for, the amount of energy you obtain is how wide you open the door. Think of a door and a mass of people wanting to get through to the other side. What factors affect the number of people per period? I guess most will guess first, how wide is the door, then we say how fast can the people move through, how much mass is each person. All the factors affect who and what gets through the door and even if the door is open.

http://67.76.235.52/images/wake15.jpg

Ah the implicate order....From David Bohm...

"Relativity and even more important quantum mechanics have strongly suggested that the world cannot be analyzed into separate and independently existing parts. Moreover, each part somehow involves all the others: contains them or enfolds them....This fact suggests that the sphere of ordinary material life and the sphere of mystical experience have a certain shared order and that this will allow a fruitful relationship between them."

-David Bohm- (brilliant man)

a great segway into this fantastic quote from "Seth" on energy....

"It may form particles, but it would be itself whether or not particles existed. In the most basic of terms, almost incomprehensible in your vocabulary, energy is not divided. There can be no portions or parts of it, because it is not an entity like a pie to be cut or divided. For the purposes of discussion however, we must say that in your terms each smallest portion - each smallest unit of pure energy - contains within it the propelling force toward the formation of all possible variations of itself.

The smallest unit of pure energy, therefore, weighing nothing in your terms, containing within itself no mass, would hold within its own nature the propensity for the creation of matter in all of its forms, the impetus to create all possible universes. In those terms energy cannot be considered without bringing to the forefront questions concerning the nature of God and All that is, for the terms are synonymous. "

For those who are not familiar, Seth is an "intelligence" channeled through Jane Roberts. Many have believed him to be a facet of her personality, or a hoax, however here is an interesting quote regarding the matter....In the Seth material, Jane Roberts presented a discussion between Seth and Eugene Barnard, an academic psychologist with extensive knowledge of eastern philosophy. Dr. Barnard said afterward:

I chose topics of conversation which were clearly of tolerable interest to seth and consederable interest to me, and which by that time I had every reason to believe were largely foreign territory to Jane. Also...I chose to persue these topics at a level of sphistication which I felt made it exceedingly improbable that jane could fool me on substituting her own knowlege and mental footwork for those of Seth, even if she were doing it unconsciously.

The best summary description I can give you of that evening is that it was for me a delightful conversation with a personality or intelligence or what have you, whose wit, intellect, and reservoir of knowledge far exceeded my own...In any sense in which a psychologist of the western scientific tradition would understand the phrase, I do not believe that Jane Roberts and Seth are the same person, or the same personality, or different facets of the same personality.

"

[seth]

This Seth sounds like a real clever guy - wonder if we can get him on the forum

Joking aside, this is an interesting thread. Nice to have a bit of a think from time to time, between tinkering. Thanks DrStiffler for all your sec work - im having great fun with the simple exciter ive just built. The output never ceases to impress me. And thanks Lamare for some very interesting posts. Food for thought. Ive always been rather partial to some of Beardons assertions about the source/charge problem, and i like the way you link Turturs work in. I've been thinking along the same lines since i saw Turturs experiment.

[Jbignes5]

hmmm...

Anyone got a link to Turtur's ideas? I would be interested to check em out if someone has a link...

[lamare]

Anyone got a link to Turtur's ideas? I would be interested to check em out if someone has a link...

See my article at peswiki. I quoted him and there is a link there. Can't give it direct now, cause I'm in the train on my mobile.