Africa - Hot Water For All - No Electricity Needed

[Harvey]

The Namib Desert does sound like a good candidate as long as we get far enough inland to get past the fog

Thanx

[nvisser]

I was born there and did the FM radio transmitters on top of Brukkaros.
I also stayed in that desert for weeks to do our tv signal measurements that started fading in the evenings. I do remember the condensation on my cold beer bottles. LOL

[Aromaz]

I was born there and did the FM radio transmitters on top of Brukkaros.
I also stayed in that desert for weeks to do our tv signal measurements that started fading in the evenings. I do remember the condensation on my cold beer bottles. LOL

Some areas, some times you get, some not. I was in SAP Task Force and spend all of 1974 to 1977 around the Namib and Western Kalahari. Funny enough never went to Caprivi. One full year my patrol was between Swakop and Luderitz those days we still used horse and camels with few 4x4 to supply proviand. "Stones and Sands Patrols".

We learned many tricks from our Khoi guides; sometimes you get condensation, many times not. Depends on winds. If hot wind from Kalahari there is no moisture. Nostalgia for the open space and perfect galaxy views. Wish I knew then what I know now and had my current telescope with me!

[ashtweth]

Guys well lets sort this the technology was donated to Panacea, so it belongs to YOU the public. Not big business/governments . Where ever that fog and vapor trail is i just need to know where the humidity is 13GCM.

I can even Send Vissie or Aromaz a cheap temperature/humidity meter to check

[nvisser]

Well I dont come there seldom. I got family living in Hentiesbay on the Namib costline but I suppose it is humid there most of the time.
I cannot find humidity figures on our local weather website
[ kobus botha - weather photos ]
Are the Trevor constable plans available on the Panecea website?

[Aromaz]

Guys well lets sort this the technology was donated to Panacea, so it belongs to YOU the public. Not big business/governments . Where ever that fog and vapor trail is i just need to know where the humidity is 13GCM.

I can even Send Vissie or Aromaz a cheap temperature/humidity meter to check

@ashweth; it might be good idea to check it out. Meter is not the problem; I have four hanging around my factory at all times (High Humidity + Fiberglass = Bad Boats). However count me out for Africa! I am in Thailand, to fly from here to South Africa - price ticket is whooping US$ 17,000+ economy class; and 12+ hours one way IF you lucky to get on a straigh flight! I have not been to anywhere in Africa for past four years.

Might try to get in contact with above link of Prof. Kobus Botha. Though he is in Pretoria he might be just the right kind of man you want; having his finger on all of Africa weather as well as Radio HAM operator; he might know someone in the Namib.

[nvisser]

Prof Botha's answer to me was that they do not have data on such small little towns and the only way is for someone to actualy go out there and collect the data or to place a small weather station at the place and monitor it with radio signals. It cost about R5000 (devide 7 for Dollars).
He also mentioned the the wind and sand could be a problem and that the weather station won,t last out there.

[Harvey]

Guys well lets sort this the technology was donated to Panacea, so it belongs to YOU the public. Not big business/governments . Where ever that fog and vapor trail is i just need to know where the humidity is 13GCM.

I can even Send Vissie or Aromaz a cheap temperature/humidity meter to check

Ash,

According to the graph (Fig. 3.) in the PDF link "The Fog" above, the water vapor mainly stays between 6 and 6.5 g / m³ in the afternoon at altitudes between ground level and 200 meters whereas the water vapor increases to around 8.25 g / m³ in the morning up to altitudes of 90 meters. The tests were done with weather balloons.

Precipitation and Dew Point are two different things.
Where the humidity is above 13 g/m³ you could use Constable's Technique to relocate the moisture and initiate precipitation.

But with my future project - we hope to be able to extract water from the air in ambient temperature high as 49°C with relative humidity of only 6%. See this calculator Dew Point Calculator which shows that the Dew Point occurs near 1.9°C for those values and a pressure of 11.75 kPa. Our project intends to take advantage of this characteristic and put it to good use in literally pulling the water out of the air where we want, when we want in usable quantities. As long as we have thermal differentials between subterranean soil and air along with an abundant supply of Solar radiation - the system will work.

This Page Relative humidity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia has a link to the following chart.

On this chart we can see that at 50°C the Relative Humidity of 10% relates to about 8.3 g / m³ (Note that 'CM' can be confused with Centi-Meter thus I use m cubed for cubic meter)



Naturally we need to get the water out of the air or ground so it can be used and heated in areas where water is scarce.

[Harvey]

Prof Botha's answer to me was that they do not have data on such small little towns and the only way is for someone to actualy go out there and collect the data or to place a small weather station at the place and monitor it with radio signals. It cost about R5000 (devide 7 for Dollars).
He also mentioned the the wind and sand could be a problem and that the weather station won,t last out there.

Thank you for checking into this for us

[IndianaBoys]

But with my future project - we hope to be able to extract water from the air in ambient temperature high as 49°C with relative humidity of only 6%.

Harvey,

Years ago there was a Michael DeMuth inventor, "Atmospheric Water Unit". Skywell Water System.

Saw a video of the machine he invented to pull water from the atmosphere.

Are you looking at being able to do something like that?

IndianaBoys

[Harvey]

Harvey,

Years ago there was a Michael DeMuth inventor, "Atmospheric Water Unit". Skywell Water System.

Saw a video of the machine he invented to pull water from the atmosphere.

Are you looking at being able to do something like that?

IndianaBoys

Search Found:

John C. Dahlen, "Skywell Water System", 7100 Howells Ferry #224, Mobile, Alabama 36618-3401, Phone (334) 342-1815. SWS Model R45, 3x4x5' produces 2K gallons per day, cost $3,600.
Alejandro Cruzat, "Fog Catching and Cloud Harvesting", Chungungo, Chile.
Michael DeMuth inventor, "Atmospheric Water Unit". Skywell Water System.

Troubled Times - No Units for Sale:
Troubled Times: Skywell Water Systems

Do you have a link to that video? Without seeing the Skywell system I cannot say if my project is similar or not.

EDIT:
I guess they were bought out:
SkyWell Technologies Launches Its "Oasis®" Machine for Humanitarian and Commercial Use - PR.com

[IndianaBoys]

S

Do you have a link to that video? Without seeing the Skywell system I cannot say if my project is similar or not.

EDIT:
I guess they were bought out:
SkyWell Technologies Launches Its "Oasis®" Machine for Humanitarian and Commercial Use - PR.com

Harvey,

While it sounds like they were bought out I do not think so.
Searching their website produced no results:

www.trinergycorp.com

Unless this company is going to bury the technology or just plain hype. Not a whole lot of information can be found as relates to the press release:

“Oasis®” while this is a common mark, trienergy does not own it.

"The Oasis® Project" common words that do not produce any information related to trienergy.

Called the phone number and get a generic message that does leave questions as to are they for real or not.

SkyWell Technologies Launches Its "Oasis®" Machine for Humanitarian and Commercial Use - PR.com
This press release contains forward-looking statements............

Trienergy may be just trying to sell stock from the hype of the press release as they are forward looking statements that may or may not exist....

The unit I remember seeing was on a VCR tape maybe 15-20 years ago.

I may still have it. Would take a little time to convert for YouTube if I do. Will do some checking.

Want to say it went into the theory and showed a rough prototype that was outside. Maybe 10-15 feet long and 5 feet wide.

Searching Trademark database for Skywell:

SKYWELL
(ABANDONED) IC 011. US 013 021 023 031 034. G & S: water filtering units for domestic use, water filtering units for commercial use, water filtering units for industrial use, waste water purification units, domestic water purifying units for potable water, commercial water purifying units for potable water, industrial water purifying units for potable water, and dehumidifier for recovering water from air

ABANDONED: December 28, 2001

I remember a couple years ago, a very inefficient Skywell type system for home or office that would do maybe 1-2 gallons a day with a steep price.

That is what I came up with so far.

Will do some checking and get back.

IndianaBoys

[Matos de Matos]

Hi Harvey:

Just found this thread and again congratulations, you keep amaze me.

Are you aware of the Sorensen´s Bubble pump?

Sorensen's bubble pump

ftp://ftp.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/chic-ccdh/...%2095P25_w.pdf

I was born 200 Km from Namib desert in Angola side.
Now, I live in Luanda in the North of Angola, but If you need anything, just ask.

David

[Harvey]

Hi Harvey:

Just found this thread and again congratulations, you keep amaze me.

Are you aware of the Sorensen´s Bubble pump?

Sorensen's bubble pump

ftp://ftp.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/chic-ccdh/...%2095P25_w.pdf

I was born 200 Km from Namib desert in Angola side.
Now, I live in Luanda in the North of Angola, but If you need anything, just ask.

David

That is a nice setup

The Sorensen Bubble pump looks to be a form of solar percolator with additional plumbing and different application. It looks like the whole system would have some cost associated with it though.

Do you know if such systems are being used in your area?

Is it true that there are some areas with no electricity and very little resource that could benefit from the TIRED approach to water heating? I think Ben indicated that they melted the tires down and used that for glue to seal them together and they used hammers and chisels to carve out the metal plates for the top and bottom. We have places in our deserts here in California where some people choose to do things like that - making items from junk yard stuff and putting it to good use in one way or another. Even in other states this takes place also, like Dennis Weaver's Earthship in colorado.
Building it:
Dennis Weaver's Sunridge Video - Interior Tour

Finished Interior:
Dennis Weaver's Sunridge Video - Interior Tour

Here is an aerospace engineer who built a house out of tires:Tire House Construction - Our House

It is interesting to me, that it is not the homeless and deprived who are taking advantage of this stuff, but instead it is the Millionares and non-deprived

Strange world we live in.

[wings]

Hi Aromaz, do you have 13GCM of absolute humidity in AFRICA? If you do we can make it rain there, if you dont have it in the drought area. We can set up stations to move the moisture around

Here is an Example. Here is the Murray river where there is Drought in Australia
New South Wales Weather Observation Stations
Look for IVANHOE on the map->then click on it to find the relative humidity and temperature readings.

Take BOTH FIGURES

Compare BOTH those figures here in this chart for the absolute humidity figure
Climate/humidity table

For example if its 20C and 80% or 90% relative humidity.
We can make it rain.
Drought relief
(refresh)

You need 13 GCM to move moisture around using the etheric or orgone technology, since its the primary energy, i doubt any other device will work under 13GCM, in fact all as you are doing is moving moisture if is not there to move, forget it. Hence why you can make it rain in a desert, you can move moisture into a desert tho, but need to START at the vapor trails (13GCM of absolute humidity)

Reich , McCullough(Reich assistant) and TJC said this. So we need to find where 13GCM is and move it around into the MURRAY/AFRICA area -Trevor constable did it that way.

Move it from one area with 3 OR MORE STATIONS.
PROVEN Pincer 2

BTW

THANKS HARVEY!

Air Wells, Fog Fences & Dew Ponds
Methods for Recovery of Atmospheric Humidity

Air Wells, Dew Ponds and Fog Fences: Methods to Condense Atmospheric Humidity