The problem with problems

[jeanna]

I would ask what you want the needle to do.

Then I would find a way to get all that hay to do the same thing.

Then, when I came across the needle, I could smile and be grateful for the inspiration and maybe frame it, because it is now obsolete.

jeanna

I guess that is exactly what the fluorescent bulb is. There is no need for a filament anymore.

[SeaMonkey]

The Needle in the Haystack is an apt illustration of
Real World Dynamics.

The Haystack is figuratively some foreign country
that has some resource that "We" want.

The Needle is the excuse.

The Match is "Shock and Awe."

The Magnet is "Democracy" which
is imposed by "Kicking in Doors" and
"Blowing Away" civilians with "Hell Fire"
missiles.

Result:

We got what we wanted and we
destroyed the haystack in the process.

The magnet is found to be ineffective
so the populous "Wakes Up" and begins
to "resist" the Lie.

Moral of the Story:

World Problems are created by Elite
Families who really couldn't care less
about how destructive their "Solution"
is. Follow the Power.



I am truly imressed by the analytical skills
of those who've participated in this very
interesting thread. It is a sheer delight
to read the thoughts of those who are
yet able to "think" clearly with an awareness
of what is truly going on.

Bravo!

[Allcanadian]

@Farmhand

I don't get it, once you burned the hay you would be looking for a needle in a pile of ashes not a haystack, which tells me the haystack must remain as hay.
Also if you burn it the hay is now wasted and the needle is wrecked, it would need to be re-hardened and re-polished.
That would be like burning a forest to find someone lost there. All is lost.
Seems a bit futile.
I haven't tried yet but you could have trouble striking the match on the magnet aswell.
There must be a better way.
Your also assuming the needle is made from a ferrous material.
I'm all for novel ways to solve problems but they must also be practical to be usefull I wouldn't burn one of my stacks of hay to find a needle any more than I would shoot holes in my rainwater tank to find out how much water is in it.

This is a good example of what I refer to as self-imposed limitations, if you read the question there are very few criteria which must be met so why complicate the problem?. Why would we think of a thousand ways in which something cannot work when the only way to solve a problem is finding the one way in which it can?. This is how our mind deceives us, when we encounter any problem the first thing our mind does is attempt to rationalize it by creating boundaries and limitations within the problem based on our personal beliefs and experience. However when we do this it should be obvious that we have also limited our chances of success because we have distorted the true reality of the problem.

@Harvey

An engineer working for the outfit came up with a brilliant plan to build a large non conductive drum and have protruding out of it several hundred conductive spikes. He then charged the spikes with 220VAC and would filter the mulch through the spikes. If a needle shorted the spikes, it would theoretically trip the breaker and alert the operator who would then look for the offending piece - if possible.

Brilliant plan?
Why not add some more water stick it in a big blender, then simply filter it centrifugally?

Regards
AC

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, jibbguy said this, which in my view is part of the reason, no matter how many days of your life you rack your brain, mind or soul inventing devices, it won't make a hill o beans of difference until these sociopaths are taken out of any and every influential position in this world that has to do with the well being of humanity and changing the rigged systems that serve the few.

That is why from my own point of view of Raising Public Awareness... i do not see much point in anti-grav studies, and try to concentrate on things that cannot be considered "national security dangers" except by corrupt a-hole liars.... and that is MOST of the technologies we discuss here... that ARE NOT real dangers... only "dangers" to those making profits from the current system that is destroying this planet.
For instance: Hydroxy cannot be "weaponized" to make super-weapons any more dangerous than what is already widely known.... and neither can pulse magnet motors and all similar techs. They are only dangers to "corporate security".... and to hell with those sociopaths, they deserve to go down
Every movie that Hollywood makes that features new energy sources always has it as a dangerous "bomb" This is deliberate psy-ops, and is done for very specific reasons. Look at who holds the funding reigns for getting movies made in the first place: Who decides what screen play is made into a movie or TV script. The denial of funding is how it is done. Thats why you never see any positive free energy related movies or TV shows. Popular culture is used to control the thoughts of the masses in a passive way... Even commercial ads are part of this.

And this from SeaMonkey, who as a few others are telling it like it is, well at least on this planet at this moment in time.

The Needle in the Haystack is an apt illustration of
Real World Dynamics.
The Haystack is figuratively some foreign country
that has some resource that "We" want.
The Needle is the excuse.
The Match is "Shock and Awe."
The Magnet is "Democracy" which
is imposed by "Kicking in Doors" and
"Blowing Away" civilians with "Hell Fire"
missiles.
Result:
We got what we wanted and we
destroyed the haystack in the process.
The magnet is found to be ineffective
so the populous "Wakes Up" and begins
to "resist" the Lie.
Moral of the Story:
World Problems are created by Elite
Families who really couldn't care less
about how destructive their "Solution"
is. Follow the Power.
I am truly imressed by the analytical skills
of those who've participated in this very
interesting thread. It is a sheer delight
to read the thoughts of those who are
yet able to "think" clearly with an awareness
of what is truly going on.

Now back to the regular scheduled PROGRAM!!!
peace love light
Tyson

[Allcanadian]

@skywatcher

Hi folks, jibbguy said this, which in my view is part of the reason, no matter how many days of your life you rack your brain, mind or soul inventing devices, it won't make a hill o beans of difference until these sociopaths are taken out of any and every influential position in this world that has to do with the well being of humanity and changing the rigged systems that serve the few.

I used to feel this way many years ago, I would rage against the machine and howl at the moon and when my rage had subsided there was silence and in this silence I found purpose and insight. I learned to do what I can when I can at my own pace and not those around me, I try to listen when I have no time and I try to help even though I have no reason to and all seems pointless. To many it makes little sense but once you have heard the clarity and stillness in the absence of the noise many things begin to make perfect sense.
Regards
AC

[SkyWatcher]

Hi allcanadian, I know what you are saying and i can assure you i no longer rage at these folks, i got over that as well some time ago. Though, what i said still applies, a world cannot have these type of systems in place and the people manipulating them or you will get what you got, limitation at every corner. Though as well i understand this realm is a learning school of sorts, so in reality its all good. I'm not for a second saying don't be creative and build things and what not, because I am and that is what creation is, positive creativity and anything else is a complete illusion, which is what most of this world is based within, illusion. Can anyone imagine if the kind of destructive thoughts and creations on this world were commonplace in the universe, there would be absolutely nothing left standing, that is why it's completely obvious that this realm and many of the activities that take place within it, are complete illusion and the only true reality in the universe is LOVE. Now Let's build a true reality on earth called PARADISE.
peace love light
Tyson

[Farmhand]

To AC, You appear to have made an assumption that the needle was made from ferrous material hence the magnet, I think the saying like finding a needle in a haystack is to do with how increadibly difficult that is when the needle your looking for is made from bone, bone being the almost the same colour as weathered hay.

By making that assumption and not thinking of the other possibilities if the needle were made from bone the fire would probably render it completely useless if you could find the blackened remains of it that is.

Then you would have a pile of hay ash and a useless piece of bone.

However that particular problem would be solved thats for sure.

I don't believe I complicated anything, rather I think I identified potential problems with that particular method of finding the needle.

I'm still trying to think of a different way. I appreciate the wisdom of your post and the fact that you were just using the example to make a point.

Because no one would actually look for a needle in a haystack anyway would they ?

Seamonkey, your post is very interesting aswell.

Regards

[RAMSET]

Heres a needle thats been hiding in the haystack way to long!

All, please have a look!

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ecrets-48.html

Post 1435 [you won't be disappointed]

Chet

[Matthew Jones]

I didn't read the whole thread but the beginning reminds of a game you find restaurants. The triangle game with golf tee's for pins.

Anybody can read the rules but no one does.

Jump the 1 pins at time until one is left...
3 pins left your OK
2 pins left and your smart
1 pin left and a genius.
Read what the board says for yourself...

Thats it, that the whole rule set. It does not define how to jump. You can angle jump. Go around corners. As long as you only remove one pin at time.

But if you present it to anybody as the solution they will call you hack..." Oh ya just jump any kinda way you want!!", "Thats cheating!!" ect....

But the rules do not say anything to that nature.

A genius read and interprets the rules to his advantage with no imposed conceptions of anything else and he wins everytime...

I hope I didn't ruin the game for ya....

Matt

[Farmhand]

Matthew, I don't believe for one second that anyone and everyone who solves that puzzle down to one last pin is a genius.

Do you ?

[Aaron]

direct knowledge of the needle

If the needle in the haystack is not literal for example and is the
proverbial one of hidden or secret info in a spiritual context as Harvey
mentioned, the fastest way to find the needle is to access the collective
directly and get that needle by direct knowledge.

Empirical trial/error is very slow. Having the obvious answer pop into
one's mind in full detail is the way to go, is one method of how Tesla
realized answers and it is a skill that is possible to learn by one of many
very specific and systematic methods.

[Farmhand]

It would be fairly easy to find if you put it there yourself.

The problem.

How do you find a needle in a haystack in a few hours with only two small non-electronic objects you can hold in your hands?

Thread the needle with some thread tie both ends to a piece of red cloth then place the needle in the haystack, you could go and have a snack, watch a tv show then come back to the haystack and find the needle in a short time by looking for the red cloth.

No one said you couldn't put it there yourself or not to tie anything to it, the thread and the cloth are the two small non electric items.

The haystack is still a haystack the needle is still servicable, and you have an extra match to play with.

Regards
Andrew

[Matthew Jones]

Matthew, I don't believe for one second that anyone and everyone who solves that puzzle down to one last pin is a genius.
Do you ?

According to the puzzles rules you are. The point is not whether your genius or not. The point is can read the rules...
The second point is do not drag in pre conceived rules or notions that are not applicable to the situation and things get alot easier.

Too many "Smart People" carry the baggage of experience and knowledge with them to every situation. Most of the time it just weighs them down.

Feeling a little heavy on your feet??? LOL

Matt

[peper10]

I would put the hay stack under a x-ray!!
Hi HI

[Harvey]

According to the puzzles rules you are. The point is not whether your genius or not. The point is can read the rules...
The second point is do not drag in pre conceived rules or notions that are not applicable to the situation and things get alot easier.

Too many "Smart People" carry the baggage of experience and knowledge with them to every situation. Most of the time it just weighs them down.

Feeling a little heavy on your feet??? LOL

Matt

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