Anti gravity scematic from a crop circle

[thedude]

Well this is worth some discussion. I looked around but couldn't find a reference about this video here.

Crop Circle UFO Schematic

David Sereda mentioned it in a video of a conference where he discussed it. I will return with a link where everyone can see his input, but for now just the image in AutoCad is interesting enough.

Its suggested that what we are seeing is two Tesla Coils with what i presume would be a topload on top and bottom. Would the Secondaries be wound on a toroid configuration??? Also suggested that secondaries are wound in opposition to each other.

I don't mean to just drop the subject. David Sereda makes some claims of the person who made the video confirming an anti-gravity effect on a small scale model. David himself claims to have been lead to a similar discovery that works. I'm very interested in what others think. Oh yes. I also believe it to be interesting that youtube would choose to make this video "unlisted" You can't search this video, it won't come up. gotta know the link. Good to have it still available there i guess.
I couldn't think of a better place to pick some brains on this subject. At least until there is more evidence to discuss.

[thedude]

Bah! - I spelled schematic wrong in this post.

I cut out the image, inverted it and overlay the two into a jpg to look at.

Just food for thought maybe. who knows.

Oh and heres a link to watch David's video.

[sucahyo]

That look similar to special orgone manipulator device:
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Every orgone manipulator device seems to twist gravity too. Joe cell or the hull effect for instance. The driver feel the car is lighter and the car do corner better. Even the energy polarizer said to produce positive anti gravity effect on skid pad test.

[thedude]

Every orgone manipulator device seems to twist gravity too. Joe cell or the hull effect for instance. The driver feel the car is lighter and the car do corner better. Even the energy polarizer said to produce positive anti gravity effect on skid pad test.

Thanks sucahyo, didn't know that about the orgone manipulators. Yes in Davids video, Boyd Bushman, retired from a life long career with Lockheed Martin, also describes an effect he has certified proven in which two opposing high powered neodymium magnets are threaded together on a bolt and dropped for a height of 80 ft (i believe) to show that the opposing magnetic differential is will cause a slipping of the field of gravity and will effect its rate of fall when compared to another body of size and mass. Its a theory that they claim to have proven solid coming from a veteran of the industry. That is what makes me compelled to learn more on the subject.

So with two toroidal coils inter-wound in opposition to one another around a core that appears to reside inside the toroid, not in a do-nut hole, such as most of us have seen with rodin coils, is what intrigues me the most. I've decided that the image is interesting enough to deserve more investigation.

I'm currently going to model the image in Maya 3D and extrapolate it for myself, as the autocad procedure illustrated in the first vid appears to alter a number of things from the original image and takes some liberty in adding even more to it.

Who knows what a crop circle really is? Regardless, we seem to repeatedly discover things hidden in the images. The question resides, are they, who ever they are, trying to tell us something?

Looking forward to bringing something back to this thread.

[Farmhand]

I was thinking of the possibility that crop circles could be produced by N.W.O. Black Ops type top secret technology, for the purpose of distracting very intelligent people from discovering what they have, through disinformation. I don't want to believe it but the possibility remains in my opinion.

Cheers.

[thekubiaks]

That's all you had to say

Davis Sereda is all I needed to hear to disregard this thread....

[thedude]

Davis Sereda is all I needed to hear to disregard this thread....

How in the world do you consider yourself so insightful that you wouldn't even look at what i'm suggesting at all. I'm not David Sereda.

Please don't suggest that people should disregard this thread.

I would not make such a suggestion on your posts.
Some aren't even considering the proposal of an experimental model. Which i will try to illustrate further here for anyone who might be interested.

Farmhand. i hope your not suggesting that i'm proposing disinformation here. I'm an experimenter, not just a theorist,

Bah! i'm not going to get sucked in to negative responses here. Please, if you only have disagreements, then please just go to another thread and leave this one for my discussion.
Thank you.

[Farmhand]

Farmhand. i hope your not suggesting that i'm proposing disinformation here. I'm an experimenter, not just a theorist,

No not at all, Sorry if it seemed that way, I am very interested and have a completely open mind to all possibilities. This has been proposed before and seems to have a lot of merrit, I am behind you all the way. It was just a thought that occured to me thats all. Not that you would have any part in any disinfo. Like I said I don't want to believe it anyway.

But with so little detail it's a difficult task. Crop circles are very interesting and should be studied. I applaud you.

Regards
Andrew

[Harvey]

At this site:Lucy Pringle's Crop Circle Photograph Library : July 2008

We can find the actual crop circle involved.

Here is the actual Crop Circle used in the Autocad drawing:


I have a problem with the choice of axis used for the ACAD REV command. Looking at the crop circle there is no clearly defined axial center-line and it becomes somewhat arbitrary to choose one.

Something about the isolated dots and squiggles reminds me of Arabic writing. I think there may be a hidden message in Arabic there.

[Farmhand]

The swirling effect that is quite apparent in the left hand centre circle seems to be damped or smoothed in the one to the right of it, this could indicate a reaction or process not present in one or the other.

[Harvey]

The swirling effect that is quite apparent in the left hand centre circle seems to be damped or smoothed in the one to the right of it, this could indicate a reaction or process not present in one or the other.

Unfortunately, with those people there walking around on the formation some of the detail could have been trampled.

But I did notice the definition between 'tracks' that seems to be completely missing from other crop circles, so there may be some reason behind it.

I do find it interesting that some crop circles have a very definitive implied 3D view angle and that some of the bent stalks in square images are laid at different angles to enhance the 3D shadowing.

I must say however, that revolving a polyline to get a 3D image is an insightful work. Where the definition is course like this one is and a spiral or concentric is indicated, that would revolve into a layered or coaxial tube like a toroidal capacitor. The middle of the capacitor would have one E potential and the outer surface would have another. But with no way to extract the charge via conduction we would be left with AC induction as the primary known way to interact with the charge. We have seen a variety of cylindrical cells with concentric plates (like the 'Joe's Cell', but I must admit that this is the first time that I have been contemplating a toroid version of such a device and the Maxwellian implications of the interior of a surface reaching a zero charge. Essentially, any EM energy focused on such a device would force the outer surface to escalate in voltage while trapping the magnetic flux in the rings.

[Farmhand]

I must say however, that revolving a polyline to get a 3D image is an insightful work. Where the definition is course like this one is and a spiral or concentric is indicated, that would revolve into a layered or coaxial tube like a toroidal capacitor. The middle of the capacitor would have one E potential and the outer surface would have another. But with no way to extract the charge via conduction we would be left with AC induction as the primary known way to interact with the charge. We have seen a variety of cylindrical cells with concentric plates (like the 'Joe's Cell', but I must admit that this is the first time that I have been contemplating a toroid version of such a device and the Maxwellian implications of the interior of a surface reaching a zero charge. Essentially, any EM energy focused on such a device would force the outer surface to escalate in voltage while trapping the magnetic flux in the rings.

Oh My goodness I've been looking for this thread I lost track of it. Unfortunately for me I had to read what you wrote above about 5 times. I'm still not sure. Spirals do seem to be appearing in funny places, I was thinking of building a vortex coil or two one day.

Thats an interesting read Harvey been thinking on it any more ?

[Harvey]

Worth Pondering

Thats an interesting read Harvey been thinking on it any more ?

Honestly, after I posted that I thought for a while on it and then completely forgot about it until just now.

I'm still trying to understand why that device would not be an energy trap. Unless I missing something, if the inner walls were reflective to IR energy, the Torus would just keep climbing in energy just from being immersed in our 300°K environment. If the materials converted all EM bands to voltage, then outer surface would have to house that voltage. Each interior torus could be tuned specifically to that energy signature present for it's minor radius. For example, our Sun emits radiation at specific frequencies while none at others - so the rings would be tuned to those that it does emit.

Seems to me, that a worst case scenario is for us to stick the thing inside a glass tube coated with phosphor and let any emitted energy light it up so we could possibly have a self lighter


It's really fun to think about it and try to shoot down the possibilities.

[Farmhand]

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http://www.cropfiles.it/cropcircles2...iugno2009b.jpg

There's something about the angle in the second one with the three balls, can't put my finger on it.



Had to fix the first link. works now.

[Harvey]

Now we know . . .

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