The Alpha Omega Galaxy Freefall Generator (AOGFG)

[ashtweth]

A Wells inventor has put together a machine that he claims is the first step in creating free energy from perpetual motion. He says it produces more power than it consumes.But the patent office will not register the design – because if it works, it breaks the laws of physics.The machine, largely created out of leftover bicycle parts and a windscreen-washer motor uses high-powered magnets and a series of flywheels to apparently create energy from gravity.

A Wells inventor has put together a machine that he claims is the first step in creating free energy from perpetual motion.

Go get em Pat!

Ash

[eclipz]

It seems great news but lets wait for the next videos explaining a bit more about how it works. I wanna see some details. But it seems too good to be truth.


: )

[Matthew Jones]

All you have to do is pause the video and take a look. Its an out of balance wheel that is actually driven by a small motor. The out of balance contributes to the overall torque of the motor by allowing a gravity to raise the inertia in the wheel and then be stored.

We all know its possible to have more out than in when allowing the environment to contribute energy the system. See any heat pump.

No laws of physics broken at all, thats just someones ignorance of physics speaking.

Matt

[Dingus]

I was wondering if anyone was going to start a topic on this.

It would be nice if additional information was given aside from the fairly unconvincing video. All I can tell by looking at the smaller one is that the rotor is motor driven & contains 4 arms, which each contain a magnet shake-generator of some sort. These arms also appear to be spinning, probably due to epicyclic/planetary gearing system.

[Harvey]

I tried to email the group - it bounced.

[nilrehob]

My guess is that the AOGFG is a variation of the Veljko Milkovic' - 2 Stage Oscillator.
Here is another variation:
YouTube - Superiority of Pendulum Drive - Potential Energy to Kinetic Energy

/Hob

BTW: British gravity motor generates 12 kilowatts?

[Cherryman]

The inventor has now said he managed to selfloop/feed the system.

Also they seem to be preparing for the market!

'Child simple' 6-12 kW gravity generator prepping for market

[kcarring]

An interesting similarity

You know, today I had a thought. This device when you first look at it, might make you say, how could it work?!

Well, my memories took me back to a job i did in the nineties. Operating a brown brontosaurus mower on a Hitachi excavator.

For most of you, that probably doesn't mean a thing, so take a quick peek at this video:

YouTube - Brown Brontosaurus Mower Working in Florida

The planetary power plant is driven by an auxillary john deer motor on the back of the excavator, a small john deer 4 cyl diesel.

The planetary then spins a drum, and on that massive drum are 5-6 bore holes through the length of the drum. Down each bore hole is a steel shaft, again, the length of the drum. Along that shaft are can-shaped cavity machined out of the drum. This allows teeth, cutting teeth to freely rotate on the shaft.

So, the engine powers the planetary, the planetary turns the heavy drum, and the drum then spins, which in turn makes the teeth also spin due to centrifical (fugal?) force.

In the end, you can walk right up with the excavator and literally EAT a tree.

I've spent thousands of hours around this machine.

It is similar in principle. In my mind, VERY close.

Heres the thing...

If the generators on this device are loaded with Lenz law... due to power draw... will they stop, will the centrifical force be enough to keep them churning out the current?

Do the teeth actually cut the tree, or do they stop?

You bet they cut the tree, and if they were mounted directly on the drum, no they would not.

[Roland]

You know, today I had a thought. This device when you first look at it, might make you say, how could it work?!

Well, my memories took me back to a job i did in the nineties. Operating a brown brontosaurus mower on a Hitachi excavator.

For most of you, that probably doesn't mean a thing, so take a quick peek at this video:

YouTube - Brown Brontosaurus Mower Working in Florida

The planetary power plant is driven by an auxillary john deer motor on the back of the excavator, a small john deer 4 cyl diesel.

The planetary then spins a drum, and on that massive drum are 5-6 bore holes through the length of the drum. Down each bore hole is a steel shaft, again, the length of the drum. Along that shaft are can-shaped cavity machined out of the drum. This allows teeth, cutting teeth to freely rotate on the shaft. Are the blades geared or spinning freely?

So, the engine powers the planetary, the planetary turns the heavy drum, and the drum then spins, which in turn makes the teeth also spin due to centrifical (fugal?) force.

In the end, you can walk right up with the excavator and literally EAT a tree.

I've spent thousands of hours around this machine.

It is similar in principle. In my mind, VERY close.

Heres the thing...

If the generators on this device are loaded with Lenz law... due to power draw... will they stop, will the centrifical force be enough to keep them churning out the current?

Do the teeth actually cut the tree, or do they stop?

You bet they cut the tree, and if they were mounted directly on the drum, no they would not.

Great comparison, I've been thinking about this thing for months but could not see how it would work. I finally see how this could work thanks.

So the brontosaurs blades spin more than the drum? I assume it has to run at a specific RPM to be in rhythm?

[Roland]

Karring are the blades free spinning or geared?

[kcarring]

The teeth are completely free wheeling, and thus only powered by centrifugal /centrifical? force. It's really quite something to see. and again, as Aaron would put it "it's a multistage oscillator". The John deer chugs along at low RPM. The hydraulic pressure turns the planetary shaft and thus the drum at about 2100 RPM. Those teeth... good lord... I have no idea how fast they spin BUT ITS FAST. At any moment, when the John Deere "quits" the drum continues and continues until its momentum is lost. Even once the drum is barely spinning, the teeth are still a blur. The John Deere long ago came to dead stop. Non connected systems.

When you look at it you think... this dull worn out steel tooth cuts through hardwood ?!?! Why doesn't it just stop dead?!

There's something about centrifuges and such that is amazing. Reminds me of runaway acceleration, the skin effect as HV "peels away from" current in a tesla coil.

[kcarring]

Some modern ski doos, snow sleds are capable of doing 160+ mph across the snow with a small (by comparison) gasoline engine. If they were geared, directly, the second you let off on the gas, the vehicle would grind, and decelerate quickly. They don't. they have centrifical clutching system and the drive train can be spinning at AMAZING speeds while the engine is slowing down. Seperated system, multiple stage oscillators... they are similar in principle, and all offer amazing performance.

[kcarring]

Playing with some numbers here, on:

Flywheel Energy Calculator

The drum on the Brontosaurus, very respectively is 2000 lbs and is about 32" in diameter. I know the whole head is over 3500 lbs, and most of it is drum.

The planetary spins at about 2100 rpm.

Look at these, based on those numbers:

Output:

Centrifugal Force
(Newtons) 17839412.44
(kg) 1819113.43

Surface Speed
(M/sec) 89.38

The Alpha Omega Galaxy Freefall Generator video is pretty tough to really see what is going on, but my guess is you pay a price, a premium to wheel it up to speed (just like the Brontosaurus), to keep it spinning isn't as much energy required (it's now a energy storage unit of the flywheel variant).. and to put it under load, sure, it's consequential.. but not nearly as much as you'd think (just like the Brontosaurus eating through 10" diameter hardwood trees while the John Deere fast idles, and does not "rev out" while the work is being done). When you actually operate the Brontosaurus, this what it feels like... The diesel winds up and it takes a while to get that drum rolling up to speed. Once it is, however, your ready to go and you hear the engine calm a bit. When you eat a tree with the head, it's "momentum loss" (like a flywheel losing its energy). The John Deere doesn't start revving up, rather you back off on the tree, give it a moment, kind of like you'd do when your pushing an electric drill too hard. Having said that... what I just described only occurs when the head is absolutely forced into the thickest heaviest material it can possibly handle. The rest of the time (like during the top half of the tree or limbs, brushing the ground...) it is barely slowed and the John Deere does not audibly change speed. It is also surprisingly easy on fuel. I look forward to seeing what becomes of this device because in my mind it makes perfect sense I see much more potential in something like this, than any magnetic motor, pulse charger, etc. To me it makes much, much more sense to build a better gravitational / centrifical generator, than to build a motor to then charge batteries to then drive gen coils to then drive that motor,... ... ...

[Roland]

Kcarring

Your description was great. I've tried to find details on what exactly makes the blades turn. Id think if it was simply the effects of gravity, that they would not spin faster than the drum. So I imagine centrifugal force is what gets these blades going. Why and how the centrifugal force (or Gravity...) multistage oscillator has these turning so fast, i cant get my head around YET.

Never the less, from what you describe, it seems that the COP on that tree mulcher would be out of site. It also seems that harnessing that power for electricity can be done in a way that is better than the method that the Alpha Omega Galaxy Freefall Generator takes. I was thinking that the using the blade speed & CF to spin a separate driven rotor placed next to it. The driven rotor would simply have a generator attached to it. looks like this is worth looking into.

[kcarring]

I think if the central shaft, to each "spinner" is doing the work, and the rest, is merely mass.. i.e. as the web of arms, the bulk of the unit, spins, it hurls the extremities by way of centrifical force. If their rotation in turn, rotates a shaft, that then creates a small generator... and you have multiple such devices (as one would suspect from the video), then you are paying to maintain the inertia and momentum of the main body - whatever else that goes on at the extremities, is completely secondary and the forces placed upon those generators (lenz's law) do not change the main workload. The Milkovic pendulum operates in the same two stage oscillation theory. No matter how much resistence is imposed on the "working end" (hammer) of his system, this resistence does not impose itself on the motion of the pendulum. In my mind, it stands to reason that if you use this phenomenon and include many generators as in the AOGFG, sooner or later you'll hit unity or go over. Milkovic claims that the math essentially, IS THERE... that it was discovered by Archimedes, and states:

Ek = [M(v1 + V2)^2] / 2

wherein additional acceleration is due to gravity (or possibly centrifical force in the AOGFG).

see end of page:
Two-Stage Mechanical Oscillator - A Mechanical Amplifier - Veljko Milkovic - Official presentation

All things said, the inventor has been said to be involved with Engineers who are also employed by Rolls Royce, and close to going to market.

As to whether the Brown Brontosaurus is overunity... I have no idea whatsoever. I only meant to draw similarities to this device, to show what kind of incredible force can be created AND MAINTAINED at the business end of a centrifugal system. To witness the non-connected, non-geared (second stage) oscillations of the free floating teeth of the B.B. head, is to witness the fact that even solid hardwood barely slows them down. In the same sense, I see multiple generators on the AOGFG being able to hand quite a lenz law load.

I tend to think he might really be on to something.