The Alpha Omega Galaxy Freefall Generator (AOGFG)

[kcarring]

I've tried to find details on what exactly makes the blades turn. Id think if it was simply the effects of gravity, that they would not spin faster than the drum. So I imagine centrifugal force is what gets these blades going.

Brown Brontosaurus Head

Here is a very crude (sorry) drawing of what a single tooth looks like, in respect to the shaft it lives on, which is fixated (pounded into with a sledge hammer) in the drum. Each tooth has a corresponding cavity that provides enough room for the simply constructed tooth (pipe welded to a triangle of steel) to free and completely revolve in, spinning around the shaft. As the drum picks up speed, the teeth revolve freely on their own. The main shaft spins at 2100 RPM and weigh over a tonne. Each tooth weighs about 8-10lbs.

[nilrehob]

Is the AOGFG maybe whats described here?
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ead.php?t=7591

/Hob

[Roland]

Thanks for the drawing.

nilrehob, i see the similarity's, thanks for video modification method

Here is a way of slowing down the video so we can see whats happening with this AOGFG

I downloaded YouTube - 35 8040 Perpetual motion
with DownloadHelper - Media download Firefox extension
and then watched it in slow-motion with VideoLAN - Official page for VLC media player, the Open Source video framework!

Hope it helps.

/Hob

[Roland]

Kcarring your drawing is great. It is just how you discribed.

At slow speed i can visualize the free spinning blade always pointed downward due to gravity. As centrifugal force starts to act on it i can visualize the blades just simple changing to a pointing outward like position. (like in that 40;1 video.) The part i cant get my head around is why the free wheeling blades would spin, rather than simply point outwards.

The only way i can think the teeth would spin is if the teeth shaft was geared to the drum, via some planetary gearing.maybe free spining in one direction not the other. One day i'll see one of this things up close and figure it out.

Can't wait to see what the end products looks like of that AOGFG. I hope the price is right.

[Golden Mean]

Reminds me of this...

YouTube - living energy machine

with motors/generators attached.

[kcarring]

The only way i can think the teeth would spin is if the teeth shaft was geared to the drum, via some planetary gearing.

It is rather strange, and one does have to wonder why the teeth even spin, at all, I agree. I think I know why though. They are "top" heavy. The actual tooth is much heavier in mass than the pipe collar. The shafts are fixated they do not move. Trust me, I have spent a hundred hours POUNDING those buggers in with a massive sledge hammer, THEY DO NOT MOVE. One does wonder why the teeth do not just assume a "flung out position"...

and truthfully...

the whole drum spins fast enough, and is thus blurry enough...

that...

it is possible they don't spin, the teeth, at top speed...

and maybe an "observation" of them spinning during startup, and wind down... is illusive... maybe at top speed they are "held outwards"...

to be honest, I can't be sure, I always assumed they spun VERY FAST... but this thread now has me thinking circles.

Cool comments, thanks. I'm going to ask my old boss whether he thinks the teeth spin at top speed or if they are held outward distal to the drum's outer circumference.
I know that we did have to replace both the shafts and the teeth periodically, but I cannot remember clearly whether the wear pattern on the shafts (at the site/location) of each tooth, or the pipe section of each tooth, was indicative of constant rotational wear, or not.

Here is a nother thought tho. If you follow the links above, those videos of a similar supposed overunity device and it's computer generated model... you will notice that the designer, at a later point in the video.... "speeds it up". The "hammer" or counterweight stops "behaving"... Rather than staying held outward (where it can reall help do work) It start spinning, going a bit crazy in fact. Yet you know from the math the outward force would be in excess of that exuded at a lower speed. Interesting phenomenon.

[kcarring]

components

Thanks for the technique on slowing down the video, that was great!!!

I did a screen cap on it. Here are my thoughts.




I notice a few things that I point on in the pic. Not mentioned: Notice that each gen (or my interpretation of such) on the machine on the right not only has what appears to be "mass pendulums" as I've coined them, but, also, other "spokes", or "tines" if you will, that may be on the opposite side. They are not at all the same shape or symmetrical to the pendelum arms. Are these offsetting the balance of the pendulum arms (which appear to be symmetrical on the right hand machine)? Like perhaps the odd shape tooth (as opposed to it's "lighter and uniform" shaped pipe base), may "offset" the balance of the tooth in the Brown Brontosaurus head. Is this stopping the generator pendulm arms from simply being "flung outward", keeping them in constant motion and able to withstand the slowing forces of Lenz's law, while under load?

Also note the sound.

It does not at all sound like a single electric motor turning a bulky apparatus. In my opinion it very much does sound like the wind of multiple small generators. Interesting.

Cheers

[sapling]

I know this is an older post but...

I know this is an older post but I have really become somewhat obsessed with this AOGFG and trying to figure out how it works. Here are some things that he may be doing or may not be doing and might be helpful if he does do them. But my main point I want to say that really bothers me is...
You have 2 points of rotation the center of the entire device is rotating while each of the tips are also rotating.
This being the case How is it possible to collect energy from this without having wiring getting tangled extremely badly...
So using a wheel hub motor for each of the ends I can see how that would prevent those from being tangled but since the center is rotating as well... Maybe there is something I am missing with that speculation.

So If I were going to try and make this efficient using gravity I would first make sure each of the single tips has a gear on them to allow rotation of only one direction. This would in sense make sure that they couldnt get stuck in place when spinning too fast... However the resistance of this effect could be counter productive I am not physics expert.
Second Sealing the entire device and sucking out all of the atmosphere creating a sealed system would also make it more efficient because of less friction in the air...
Finally all of the bearings if they were changed to foil bearings it would also reduce the friction allowing it to spin easier.

Anyway sorry if I brought up a dead topic I just really wanted to discuss it further and like what you had all put here.

[3758]

Andy888 - Don't Tease!

I've been toying with my own variant of this... based on speculation and assumptions... but...

DO TELL MORE!!!!

Will there be any followup videos? It's been over a week since your post...

BITING NAILS!!!

[RyanMinor]

I would love to see / know more about this. Was production slated for 03/11? Obviously it has been pushed back, but any updates?

[Farmhand]

What a strange device this is. Big claims too. Is there any better demonstrations than the video's on PESWIKI ? Because they show nothing. I just see a rotating machine, no load. I see a multimeter but I can't read it, and it is placed in a strange way if there are magnets on the rotor.

Why don't they show these things running a load ? It should be a self runner, not just a powered spinner.

It's not open source either, it will just be another market device. It looks dangerous too. One would need to be very careful that it is properly enclosed.

Something seems strange about this. I hope it is good and cheap and does what it is claimed to do, but I doubt it.

We really should be more damanding of better demonstrations. And at least critical of Supposed OU devices with very poor demonstrations that show nothing much.

I watched the two video's and only seen a thing spin around under battery power. Total waste of 8 minutes.

Very goofy name too. What is the meaning behind the name. Or i the name just to wow people and sound cool ?

I'm not convinced this is valid. But I could be wrong of course.

Cheers

[3758]

We don't know the whole story.

These guys have a right to decide how, when, and what to release... but granted, the "teaser" above was odd... since they're not releasing anything publicly... makes you want more!

[admin]

@Andy

Andy,

Your post has been removed. It was posted without permission from the
inventor and was information that he did not want posted publicly.

[freepenguin]

Devices that use an rotating object for energy generation must have kinetic energy, moment of inertia, angular speed, torque. That's all about it.

Mass, angular speed, the shape of rotating object, frictional torque of the object.

I would like to see sounding formula and measured data not supposedly working prototypes with big hype. Of course, those inventors won't disclose it because they wanna make $$$ and be famous.

[Jacob]

This generator is one of a variant of generator of Jacob Bitsadze, hich has been inve

This generator is one of a variant of generator of Jacob Bitsadze, wich has been invented in 1998. It can be looked on a link:
Create the Future Design Contest :: Fuel-less Motor-Generator for Electric Car

Mr. Amarsingam uses hinged cargoes instead of a flywheel. But it does not change essence of the invention. The principle of a difference of radiuses which was open by J. Bitsadze is besides used. This theory can be looked on a link:

The latent weight - result of a spin of a massive body and a sourse of superfluous energy. - My files - File Catalog - Personal site

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The same principle is used in the generator of Chas Chambell too.