Stingo Solid State Battery Charger

[Farmhand]

Hi Sucahyo, Could you please point me to your most recent, and most basic Stingo please, I should build a basic one first I think.

I might understand him better that way.

Thanks

[sucahyo]

Hi Sucahyo, Could you please point me to your most recent, and most basic Stingo please, I should build a basic one first I think.

Can you define basic? If it is for charging then use this circuit bellow without the part at the left of the coil, and replace it with one diode:


For sparking experiment, remove the 500K and 100K part.

[Farmhand]

Thank you, That looks like him. Maybe tomorrow I will have FrankenStingo.

Just kidding, I'll start after dinner.

Can you define basic? If it is for charging then use this circuit bellow without the part at the left of the coil, and replace it with one diode:
For sparking experiment, remove the 500K and 100K part.

Thanks.

[cikljamas]

Here is all together:



You can also add capacitor in parallel with charged battery to improve charging speed. I don't use it because it heat up battery and I rarely monitor how long a battery is charged . Safer for me without cap .


No, relay or 555 draw more current. Spark problem in relay reduce speed and efficiency. 555 signal is just dull in comparison. If you can achieve ou with 555 or relay, I believe transistor circuit only will get you better.

The circuit you post at this is it thread are cap dumper circuit where relay work as switch.

Any relay will be fine. Better if you can pry it open for tweaking and cleaning purposes. Relay is unreliable for hours of operation.

Thanks for the song . I am surprise to hear it at first because I thought they gonna sing Indonesia tanah air beta:
YouTube - Utha Likumahua - Indonesia Tanah Air Beta

Thanks my friend !
I gave up from that 555 circuit, and thank you for sparing my time !
It would be nice if you think you can put together Pulsator from my
thread "This is it" and "stingo"...I spent few hours today trying to
do that but i havent gone to far with it...Somebody mentioned that
he is going to try that, we ll see...I noticed that if i connect two
toroids to my version of stingo i can achieve much better results
charging one battery from another battery, i have to see whether
efficiency raise up in selfcharging configuration, and i have to wind
third toroid to see if it is going to raise up efficency even more than
that with third coil...Coil is the key in stigno raising efficiency much
more than diodes, at least it is my opinion ...
How come you know that indonesian song ?...Yes, there is a lot of
similarity, they stole it from mexicans ....
This is the best version of la golondrina, original is original !
YouTube - La Golondrina(제비)-Trio Los Panchos
But, we croatians know too, how to make very emotional songs :
YouTube - MERI CETINIĆ & TEDI SPALATO& KLAPA LUČICA - KONOBA

[skaght]

stingo can run as a solid state tesla coil!

I posted this on the SEC variant thread as well...

While the efficiency may be less, you can run "slayer exciter coils" on a stingo. You do have to adjust the circuit some. I used C5027 npn and J1943 pnp. The resistor to the base of the PNP was increased to 100k. The primary is the standard coil on the stingo circuit, the secondary is tied directly to the collector of the PNP and the PNP is in normal mode, not inverse mode...

Cheers!

[7imix]

I posted this on the SEC variant thread as well...

While the efficiency may be less, you can run "slayer exciter coils" on a stingo. You do have to adjust the circuit some. I used C5027 npn and J1943 pnp. The resistor to the base of the PNP was increased to 100k. The primary is the standard coil on the stingo circuit, the secondary is tied directly to the collector of the PNP and the PNP is in normal mode, not inverse mode...

Cheers!

Thank you for the info. I tried my stingo with my slayer and couldn't get it to oscillate. I will try increasing the resistor to 100k and switching the PNP to normal mode.

[sucahyo]

I noticed that if i connect two
toroids to my version of stingo i can achieve much better results
charging one battery from another battery, i have to see whether
efficiency raise up in selfcharging configuration, and i have to wind
third toroid to see if it is going to raise up efficency even more than
that with third coil...Coil is the key in stigno raising efficiency much
more than diodes, at least it is my opinion ...

Interesting . But I think you should compare it too by using all three to make three stingo and combine it all with FWBR.

How come you know that indonesian song ?...Yes, there is a lot of similarity, they stole it from mexicans ....

Well, I don't claim it to be. If it is copied from mexico then that song must be a popular song way back at 1940 here

While the efficiency may be less, you can run "slayer exciter coils" on a stingo. You do have to adjust the circuit some. I used C5027 npn and J1943 pnp. The resistor to the base of the PNP was increased to 100k. The primary is the standard coil on the stingo circuit, the secondary is tied directly to the collector of the PNP and the PNP is in normal mode, not inverse mode...

Thanks for sharing .

[skaght]

Sting-slay circuit

I'm running my stingo/slayer (I've dubbed it the Sting-slay) combination circuit and charging a lead acid battery at ~500 kHz. It has an h shaped output on my scope, and the transistors are both cold--I can't detect any heat from either NPN or PNP.

I'm going to have to check the power in and out on this thing if I can. The circuit is as described earlier with some additional mods. I'm going to have to post a schematic if people want to replicate this. I need to get my camera up and running, or figure out some simple software for drawing circuits.

[skaght]

When pulse charging a lead acid 12 volt automotive battery, what voltage is equivalent to a full charge? Do you still charge up to ~14.3 volts?

[7imix]

I'm running my stingo/slayer (I've dubbed it the Sting-slay) combination circuit and charging a lead acid battery at ~500 kHz. It has an h shaped output on my scope, and the transistors are both cold--I can't detect any heat from either NPN or PNP.

I'm going to have to check the power in and out on this thing if I can. The circuit is as described earlier with some additional mods. I'm going to have to post a schematic if people want to replicate this. I need to get my camera up and running, or figure out some simple software for drawing circuits.

Yes, please, post the schematic. I tried to replicate it from your description but failed. Looking forward to trying this!

[Farmhand]

Quote:

Originally Posted by skaght
I'm running my stingo/slayer (I've dubbed it the Sting-slay) combination circuit and charging a lead acid battery at ~500 kHz. It has an h shaped output on my scope, and the transistors are both cold--I can't detect any heat from either NPN or PNP.

I'm going to have to check the power in and out on this thing if I can. The circuit is as described earlier with some additional mods. I'm going to have to post a schematic if people want to replicate this. I need to get my camera up and running, or figure out some simple software for drawing circuits.

Yes, please, post the schematic. I tried to replicate it from your description but failed. Looking forward to trying this!

Yes Please me too I would like to look at that too. Sounds like fun.

Cheers

[Farmhand]

Bah Stingo won't work for me I don't know what i'm doing wrong, 4hrs and not one song, I check it over and over I must be missing something. I don't like PNP transistors they're strange, I give up for a while to do some reading. Maybe I try tommorow with 1n3055 and mj2955, TIP32c and mje3055 not working for me. Oh well. tomorrows another day.

Cheers

[7imix]

Bah Stingo won't work for me I don't know what i'm doing wrong, 4hrs and not one song, I check it over and over I must be missing something. I don't like PNP transistors they're strange, I give up for a while to do some reading. Maybe I try tommorow with 1n3055 and mj2955, TIP32c and mje3055 not working for me. Oh well. tomorrows another day.

Cheers

What coil are you trying to oscillate? I have a hard time with certain coils, other coils are easier. I found car ignition coils to be the easiest (plus very fun! watch out, high voltage.)

I have used NTE291 & NTE292, and NTE392 & 393.

[Farmhand]

Hi 7imix, I don't give up, I new it would take a while to understand, i'll try a different coil, the only auto coil I have is a (-R) model with resistor I think so maybe it's no good, last night I tried with a short coil from my other oscillator.

I hav'nt worked out how to wind a toroid yet it seems to be almost impossible to do an easy way. I'll check the arrangement of componants again and try a different coil.

I have honestly never been angry at electrical componants before, I thought this might happen. Grrrr. I wanna join the fun. I'll get there, it's what happens when I don't learn the basics I guess, I might have to go back through this thread again, there's probably more than one thing i'm missing.

Thanks

[cikljamas]

Interesting . But I think you should compare it too by using all three to make three stingo and combine it all with FWBR.

Well, what i tried is two stingos and three coils (i wound third one) and
i think this is absolutely ok for the purpose that i need this, and not
just that, i combined it with bedini ssg, and what we got, let see in
my new video...
YouTube - stingo bedini 1
I shot this video two hours ago, and there is still no discharging of my
primary battery...weird...

I hav'nt worked out how to wind a toroid yet it seems to be almost impossible to do an easy way. I'll check the arrangement of componants again and try a different coil.

Farmhand, look, cut 4 m of wire and wind it, then cut another 4 m of wire
and just continue to wind it (of course solder beginning of second 4 m to
the end of first 4 m) and that is it ! I mean if you cut whole 8 m of wire
than it would be very difficult, that is why i swore so much when i wound
my first toroid...Where to find toroid ? As Sucahyo suggested : disassemble
power supply of comp....

I have honestly never been angry at electrical componants before, I thought this might happen. Grrrr. I wanna join the fun. I'll get there, it's what happens when I don't learn the basics I guess, I might have to go back through this thread again, there's probably more than one thing i'm missing.

Thanks

Listen, forget mje 3055, mje 2955, 2n3055...It wont work with those
transistor...Use Tip 31 and tip 32 OR Tip 3055 and tip 2955 !!!
The same mistake took me a bunch of nerves until i found out what
had been wrong with my circuit...Now, at least i could spare your nerves !