Stingo Solid State Battery Charger

[sucahyo]

Here is stingo with car coil result:
3V charge 12V at 60mA


12V charge 3V at 1350mA


resistor at PNP base at 100 ohm, at 12V the PNP get hot quickly. Neon bulb only connected to the HV part, one wire mode. Secondary not shorted but also not utilized other that neon.

[Godfrey]

Sorry, I don't know. I get the wire from 3 Amp transformer primary (notice the black color lol). And my ohm meter busted that I can not measure in small range.

Visually, I guessing around 16 gauge. You could measure it with a wire stripper.

Keep the wire straight and wound it while doing something fun .

My first experience winding one involved lots of cursing. At least I'll turn on the TV so no one hears that

My coil resistance should be around 2 ohm.

Thanks - that helps.

When you say no power do the oscillation die or just too small?

It's a power transformer with a thick HV output wire coming out of it along with many other terminals. I got it out of a computer power supply.The oscillations do not die and look fantastic in every way, it's just that I can't see any more power coming out of the standard output points you designate in your circuit, nor any other combination of transformer terminals, other than the 30 or so volts I see in the signal coming off the PNP base. It looked really promising. I even got the HV shorted to what I believe was the secondary, and the oscillations still ran, but at twice the frequency. I think I got it oscillating around 28kHz.

That is the first time I heard such method work . Congratulation .

You still don't use the combined one yet . If you use three potentiometer, you have more reason to get busy too .

I have two of these starter coils. Maybe I'll try to pair up their output.

When two stingo combined, touching a point can make the circuit output double, touching other make it back half again. Changing one circuit potentiometer will change other circuit frequency, and the most fun part is when the output current drift from time to time that make measuring with single meter produce invalid result if you don't double check it ....

This confirms the drifting I was experiencing even with the starter coil yesterday. I had the thing putting out enough to register 200V DC on my multimeter for awhile. Then it disappeared and the best I could do after that with all my 'knob twiddling' (the scientific art for any Stingo technician to learn), was 60V and that's what I ended up charging with.

I've got more posts I want to respond to, just out of time for the moment...Cheers

- Godfrey

[cikljamas]

My first experience winding one involved lots of cursing. At least I'll turn on the TV so no one hears that

This is not something that we should make joke about, but if you could
see how i looked like, and how i cursed while i was wounding that toroid
i think that would have been great consolation for you...But, as i said :
It is not fun at all, especially concerning differences between american and
croatian way of cursing...When i curse i really very sorry that i am croatian...
REALLY !!! It is not joke at all !!!...But, when i have read that your curse
too, beside other similarity that i already wrote about, i just could not
resist my temptation to answer you again...

I've got more posts I want to respond to, just out of time for the moment...Cheers

Might be you have some bad feelings about me...But if it is so, then you
just do not understand croatian humor...There is no such thing
indeed (croatian humor), but croatian way of cursing unfortunately exist...
Now i remember how Edison answered to Teslas demand to pay him what
he promised after Tesla repaired some complicated machine ...Edison answer
was : Tesla, you just dont understand american humor...But that was
important turning point in Tesla life, and after more then 100 years, our lives
too...If this dialog (between you and me) become a cause some new
electrical revolution then it worth me to endure your revenge...But i am
affraid a little bit of not be able to understand american humor...Never mind,
humor is humor and it is welcome in every moment and in greatest amount,
especially after whole day cursing...

[Guruji]

Stingo versus JT

Sucahyo is there a differnece in output from stingo circuit to Joule thief?
My JT is lighting the neon too in DC mode for sure and consumes around 200ma. Neon is lighting very bright.I'm using a 3055 transistor.
Thanks

[7imix]

Interesting. DC at radiant output? Is that while the motor running but stingo do not oscillate? NPN stays on?

Yes, sometimes I have observed the motor running but the stingo is not oscillating, and there is just flat DC (not pulsed) at the radiant output. Yes, I think the NPN just stays on, and gets very hot. I will try to investigate more and report. I think I have seen this the most when trying to run brushed DC motors.

[sucahyo]

Visually, I guessing around 16 gauge. You could measure it with a wire stripper.

Sorry, I don't have that.

It's a power transformer with a thick HV output wire coming out of it along with many other terminals. I got it out of a computer power supply.The oscillations do not die and look fantastic in every way, it's just that I can't see any more power coming out of the standard output points you designate in your circuit, nor any other combination of transformer terminals, other than the 30 or so volts I see in the signal coming off the PNP base. It looked really promising. I even got the HV shorted to what I believe was the secondary, and the oscillations still ran, but at twice the frequency. I think I got it oscillating around 28kHz.

I don't think we can use the square one. I dismantle the big or smaller one and it seem the wire is just too short.

Edit: I just try to wound some simple coil with it and I can't even make the stingo oscillating.

Before I start to wound my self I use the toroid one and connect all the wire in series.

This confirms the drifting I was experiencing even with the starter coil yesterday. I had the thing putting out enough to register 200V DC on my multimeter for awhile. Then it disappeared and the best I could do after that with all my 'knob twiddling' (the scientific art for any Stingo technician to learn), was 60V and that's what I ended up charging with.

That look like a half dead transistor for me. I replace transistor if I experience that.

Never mind, humor is humor and it is welcome in every moment and in greatest amount, especially after whole day cursing...

I am sure Godrey do not intend to hurt you in any way.

I have been using stingo to reduce something that I believe related to anger, stress or lack of sleep. I suggest you try sleeping aid implementation of stingo. I believe it can let you sleep better and some more good benefit. You just need a working stingo and a bucket of water:
http://www.energeticforum.com/health...ead.php?t=5995

Sucahyo is there a differnece in output from stingo circuit to Joule thief?

It can differ. One way to test it is by using the output to charge a battery.

With same output current better radiant will charge cooler. However, pure radiant is not good for battery, so that is why I recommend the one with cap isolated FWBR.

Neon bulb may not be a good indicator because we may not notice the difference in video and brightness can be really subjective.

Change of color may be more objective. Although it usually hard to see in camera. Can you make the neon bulb turn purple?

Mine can but unfortunately my webcam can not show it because it only change a little.

Just to show that neon can lit purple:
YouTube - Purple flashing show off

This bellow done with spark on primary I recall, don't replicate near any electronics.
YouTube - Continuous purple with HV DC and capacitor discharge

Yes, sometimes I have observed the motor running but the stingo is not oscillating, and there is just flat DC (not pulsed) at the radiant output. Yes, I think the NPN just stays on, and gets very hot. I will try to investigate more and report. I think I have seen this the most when trying to run brushed DC motors.

I see. That is unusual . Maybe because brushed motor is also switched coil in some way.

[Godfrey]

Humor and feedback

Might be you have some bad feelings about me...But if it is so, then you
just do not understand croatian humor...There is no such thing
indeed (croatian humor), but croatian way of cursing unfortunately exist...
Now i remember how Edison answered to Teslas demand to pay him what
he promised after Tesla repaired some complicated machine ...Edison answer
was : Tesla, you just dont understand american humor...But that was
important turning point in Tesla life, and after more then 100 years, our lives
too...If this dialog (between you and me) become a cause some new
electrical revolution then it worth me to endure your revenge...But i am
affraid a little bit of not be able to understand american humor...Never mind,
humor is humor and it is welcome in every moment and in greatest amount,
especially after whole day cursing...

Ok, Cikljamas, now I have time to laugh

No offense on my part. Please do not be offended by my style either. If I found your posts inappropriate, it is true, I would not even acknowledge your existence. This I think is the best policy in such situations. But I was being humorous too when I said I felt your pain. I do enjoy your croatian humor, though it's my first taste of such. Your posts have been on subject and interesting.

It reminds me to convey to all of you who have participated, especially to those who have taken the trouble to share your work, post pics and videos, to please not be offended or mistaken about my interest level if I don't instantly reward you with verbose feedback. It's just not my style. I'm a minimalist when it comes to these threads because part of why I am involved is for sharing and recording information for everyone else. So I take my time in carefully absorbing what's posted and try to keep questions I post to a minimum, by trying to answer my own questions first. I want the thread to be easy to read through for others later. This is not a criticism of anyone Else's style, however.

And lately, I truly have been busy and occupied, so have to break up my responses for when I have opportunities. I think the thread activity here is great, though, so please don't slow down the posts for my sake.

Cheers

- Godfrey

[cikljamas]

Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
Visually, I guessing around 16 gauge. You could measure it with a wire stripper.
Sorry, I don't have that.

Before one or two hours i have wounded one toroid with 20 awg, and compare
it in experiment with toroid (cursing one) with 23 awg, and results are much
better with 23 awg, not to mention lack of space inside the toroid if you use
fatter wire, and there are some other disadvantages of putting fatter wire than
23 awg...

Originally Posted by cikljamas View Post
Never mind, humor is humor and it is welcome in every moment and in greatest amount, especially after whole day cursing...
I am sure Godrey do not intend to hurt you in any way.

I have been using stingo to reduce something that I believe related to anger, stress or lack of sleep. I suggest you try sleeping aid implementation of stingo. I believe it can let you sleep better and some more good benefit. You just need a working stingo and a bucket of water:
Electronic sleeping aid, radiant style

Sucahyo, you really have wide spectrum of implementations of stingo...
I am very glad to know that...I can not thank you enough for your stingo...
I am in love with your stingo, more and more...
Godfrey is a great guy, i can see that now, i was afraid of being misunderstood, but he is not like me just in cursing (which is not good),
but he got very healthy sense for humor, and that is very important if
you want to be mentally healthy person, am i right or not ?

Ok, Cikljamas, now I have time to laugh

No offense on my part. Please do not be offended by my style either. If I found your posts inappropriate, it is true, I would not even acknowledge your existence. This I think is the best policy in such situations. But I was being humorous too when I said I felt your pain. I do enjoy your croatian humor, though it's my first taste of such. Your posts have been on subject and interesting.

It reminds me to convey to all of you who have participated, especially to those who have taken the trouble to share your work, post pics and videos, to please not be offended or mistaken about my interest level if I don't instantly reward you with verbose feedback. It's just not my style. I'm a minimalist when it comes to these threads because part of why I am involved is for sharing and recording information for everyone else. So I take my time in carefully absorbing what's posted and try to keep questions I post to a minimum, by trying to answer my own questions first. I want the thread to be easy to read through for others later. This is not a criticism of anyone Else's style

Thanks for responding to my post, i am delighted, and i am not ironic when
i say that !
Concerning our bad habit of cursing, i tried even with that :
YouTube - Kineski narodnjaci
But, it didnt help too...

And lately, I truly have been busy and occupied, so have to break up my responses for when I have opportunities. I think the thread activity here is great, though, so please don't slow down the posts for my sake.

I will do my best, but i can not guarrantiee !
Peace and love

[Jiffycoil]

First time build

@Sucahyo and all here

Hi,
I've been following this thread with much interest and I finally built my first Stingo last night. I used the basic setup and I'm getting 50 Volt +-5V from 3 volts at 250 ma. I started a battery charge this morning and will post my results. Thanks Sucahyo for the circuit and a thank you to all here who have been experimenting with it.

[7imix]

@Sucahyo and all here

Hi,
I've been following this thread with much interest and I finally built my first Stingo last night. I used the basic setup and I'm getting 50 Volt +-5V from 3 volts at 250 ma. I started a battery charge this morning and will post my results. Thanks Sucahyo for the circuit and a thank you to all here who have been experimenting with it.

Awesome jiffycoil. Welcome. What are the specs of your coil?

[Jiffycoil]

I'm using the basic charging setup with a Bosch car ignition coil from an old VW bug. I'm charging a 12v battery now on 3v 250 ma and the battery charge is rising.

[sucahyo]

Before one or two hours i have wounded one toroid with 20 awg, and compare it in experiment with toroid (cursing one) with 23 awg, and results are much better with 23 awg, not to mention lack of space inside the toroid if you use fatter wire, and there are some other disadvantages of putting fatter wire than 23 awg...

Thanks for sharing .

I am now trying to cramp another wound into my recent toroid. It can be two implementation, two stingo sharing single core but separate winding :
- with single source and sinlge output to give combined unpredictable result ...
- with different source and charging each other to see if it can self sustain.

Sucahyo, you really have wide spectrum of implementations of stingo...

I see the health effect of a device can change the tone of a thread. Many reporting headache and start yelling when posting. I don't want that to happen. If anyone feel bad effect from my circuit, please let me know.

I really hope my circuit will only give healthy effect for everyone. I have been using my stingo as sleeping aid for weeks. So if you have problem with sleep, or any ill feel, I suggest everyone to try it.

I've been following this thread with much interest and I finally built my first Stingo last night. I used the basic setup and I'm getting 50 Volt +-5V from 3 volts at 250 ma. I started a battery charge this morning and will post my results.

Congratulation . That is better than mine .

I show how 3V can charge 12V battery just to illustrate the source flexibility. If you have better source with higher voltage, don't hesitate to use it. But make sure to leave at least 100 ohm resistance for the PNP base to prevent breaking it.

If we have some energy source with very fluctuative voltage we can make sure it will continue charging if use use radiant charger. Stingo just happen to has wider working source voltage range than any 555 version. So we can just put it between battery bank and solar / wind / hydro generator and no matter what the input source voltage is we can sure it still charging. That is my reason to post 3V charge 12V and 12V charge 3V.

[Godfrey]

3V Stingo Applications

Yes, i already put that question, but i didnt get answer, it is about varied
stingo purposes, i am really anxious to read few the most interesting
implementations of stingo...charging battery, tesla coil...what else ?

I have been using stingo to reduce something that I believe related to anger, stress or lack of sleep. I suggest you try sleeping aid implementation of stingo. I believe it can let you sleep better and some more good benefit. You just need a working stingo and a bucket of water:
Electronic sleeping aid, radiant style

Ok, Sucahyo, you spoke about it in this thread first! So don’t blame me for breaking my silence

I just moved my 3V Stingo from breadboard to finished PCB. Ah, what a nice feeling, hearing it sing the very first flick of the switch! I’ll take it as a little reward for all my Stingo trials and tribs lately

I’m expecting some time I’ll find the right coil and get some nice COP payback with battery charging and my bigger, 12V - TIP2095/TIP3055 Stingo. Meanwhile...I’m already using this 3V Stingo in an application every day, so even if I never achieve COP >1, it wouldn't matter to me, because the Stingo is already a fantastic Orgone generator. As soon as I finished my new Stingo I hooked it up to my bed to enjoy a nice refreshing nap! I have 3 output terminals. The first is radiant positive the second radiant negative, the third is radiant negative rectified by a diode. The sleeper circuit uses the 1st and 3rd for output. But there are health applications mentioned by Sucahyo elsewhere which I intend to experiment with using the 1st and 2nd terminals. Enough said for now.

So how’s that, Cikljamas, for ‘interesting implementations of stingo’?

BTW, I have charged a single AAA alkaline battery (that’s right – “non-rechargeable!”) from 1.0V up to 1.4+V (charged up to 1.5+, but drifted back down later, after removal from charger) with the 3V Stingo circuit. It took 5 hours and did run down the source batteries a bit, but it was still an informative exercise worth doing

Let say 23 awg it is the best option for me, but you can try tinier too...

Before one or two hours i have wounded one toroid with 20 awg, and compare
it in experiment with toroid (cursing one) with 23 awg, and results are much
better with 23 awg, not to mention lack of space inside the toroid if you use
fatter wire, and there are some other disadvantages of putting fatter wire than
23 awg...

Thanks, Cikljamas, good info. I’ve got a spool of 22 guage and 26 guage magnet wire. How long was your 23 awg wire? How many ohms does your finished toroid coil measure?

I'm using the basic charging setup with a Bosch car ignition coil from an old VW bug. I'm charging a 12v battery now on 3v 250 ma and the battery charge is rising.

Thanks for participating in the thread, Jiffycoil, and congratulations on your rapid success!

- Godfrey

[Godfrey]

I see the health effect of a device can change the tone of a thread. Many reporting headache and start yelling when posting. I don't want that to happen. If anyone feel bad effect from my circuit, please let me know.

I really hope my circuit will only give healthy effect for everyone. I have been using my stingo as sleeping aid for weeks. So if you have problem with sleep, or any ill feel, I suggest everyone to try it.

I didn't see this post before I sent mine, but I see that you are still spilling the beans, Sucahyo And why not? Everyone here is an adult and can make thier own decisions about what to try and what not to. I know what I'd say to a baby who blamed me for a headache - Run along now, before you give me yours

- Godfrey

[sucahyo]

Ok, Sucahyo, you spoke about it in this thread first! So don’t blame me for breaking my silence

No problem .

As soon as I finished my new Stingo I hooked it up to my bed to enjoy a nice refreshing nap!

Nice .

BTW, I have charged a single AAA alkaline battery (that’s right – “non-rechargeable!”) from 1.0V up to 1.4+V (charged up to 1.5+, but drifted back down later, after removal from charger) with the 3V Stingo circuit. It took 5 hours and did run down the source batteries a bit, but it was still an informative exercise worth doing

Congratulation . Be carefull not to overcharge it, because I pop a couple of alkaline by overcharging...

I didn't see this post before I sent mine, but I see that you are still spilling the beans, Sucahyo

Thanks to you, I am more confident about that functionality now .

I prefer to keep secret something I am not sure about ....