Stingo Solid State Battery Charger

[cikljamas]

I think lead acid is the key to get your result. We may not have same result with SLA.

Why not ?...What is the advantage of lead acid b. ?

Thanks for the transistor tips everyone .

You are welcome !

However, I think we should prepare too that it give too unbelieveable result, this is example of what look like a COP = 10 result, using the circuit above. But I doubt it really COP>1, maybe the meter is just fooled.

Could it be for real ? I mean, how come that meter is just fooled in the
one moment and in the other moment is ok, dont sound convincing, dont
you think so ?

No, stingo is just a derrivative of Bedini circuit . Begini get more awesome result .

Than, pupil surpassed his master !

We get lower amp out if we charge 12V battery. What is the difference?
Impedance. 12V is 6 cell of 2V. In order to get lower impedance from 12V battery, we should parallel them. By paralleling load battery, we get lower impedance and hopefully get higher amp output too.

The usual trick to parallel the load and series the source can also work too.
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Yeah, you are damn right ! That is why i got cop = 1 when i charge
cell phone battery with stingo, and when i charge other 12 V battery
than it is "only" 0,6...This idea with paralleling load battery is really
interesting one...Could you explain this part with series the source ?

And, you know what ? This remind me to Ossie Callahans REAC (radiant
energy accumulator - converter)...I already work on preparations to practise
his radiant energy battery charging system, he claims OU with it,
but we have to see, untill i see with my own eyes, i do not believe it, but
i must try it, that is for sure...

I spent last day looking for broken power supply to pull out more toroids,
and i did it...Tomorrow i am going to make two more stingo...
Yesterday i disassembled one big toroid ( i just left primary )...
I am curious to try new stingos with this big one...
Have you ever tried your stingos with big toroid, and if you did what
was the result ?
You see, i am very busy making new stingos...I told you, i am in love
with them, more and more...
But i must complain a little bit too : I got pain in my heart, pardon, EARS !!!
YouTube - The Osborne Brothers - Pain in My Heart

Cheers !

[sucahyo]

Why not ?...What is the advantage of lead acid b. ?

SLA use gel that won't absorb water if it dry. Lead acid use water which may also do magical thing I guess.

Could it be for real ? I mean, how come that meter is just fooled in the one moment and in the other moment is ok, dont sound convincing, dont you think so ?

I only certain if someone elese can replicate it .

This idea with paralleling load battery is really interesting one...Could you explain this part with series the source ?

It is one of the idea of Tesla Switch, charge in paralel use in series as source.

For stingo paralleling load give greater benefit because stingo will be more efficient with lower impedance load. The problem is too low can kill oscillation.

Have you ever tried your stingos with big toroid, and if you did what was the result ?

Never. I think you should use bigger wire. I think self oscillation need inductance, but since you use bigger toroid you can use bigger wire to obtain the same amount of winding. I will look forward for your result .

With bigger wire and bigger toroid, I thing the output will be strong enough to kill transistor if not carefull....

You see, i am very busy making new stingos...I told you, i am in love with them, more and more...
But i must complain a little bit too : I got pain in my heart, pardon, EARS !!!
YouTube - The Osborne Brothers - Pain in My Heart

Thanks . I agree that winding the toroid is painfull .... so I use it to calm my heart after it is done (as radiant sleeping aid).

[cikljamas]

I only certain if someone elese can replicate it .

I have to go back to your previous posts to see what you have done
and try to repeat it, than we ll see...

It is one of the idea of Tesla Switch, charge in paralel use in series as source.

I wont try to connect it in series before you tell me how great risk is for
stingo to use 24 V as source...So, if i understood you well, i should use
as source two primary batt. connected in series, and charge two other batt.
connected in parallel ?...I will try just to see what will happen to charge
two charging batt. in parallel, but only with one primary batt...If you think
that 24 V will not jeopardize transistors of stingo than i will try two primarys
in series too...I lost several tip 3055 and tip 2955 , and they are 1.5 $ each
here, so...

Never. I think you should use bigger wire. I think self oscillation need inductance, but since you use bigger toroid you can use bigger wire to obtain the same amount of winding. I will look forward for your result .
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Well, i made today just one stingo (not two, as i thought i was going to make yesterday), it took me 3 hours for winding toroid, and 1 hour for
soldering stingo...
And i tried this new stingo with that big toroid, and i am not content
with results, just about 30 % efficiency, maybe wrong wire or wrong
number of wounds, or both, who knows.

Thanks . I agree that winding the toroid is painfull .... so I use it to calm my heart after it is done (as radiant sleeping aid).

I go step by step, so i havent finished my stingo efforts towards as good
efficiency as it is possible, but i think i am not going to improve it much
more (though i have to be content with this results too !!!)...But after i
conclude that it is it, i am going to try other stingo variants...First of all
it is going to be that radiant sleeping aid of course !

Cheers!

[Jiffycoil]

Stingo Neo Spinner

I was powering my single wire pancake coil with the Stingo the other night and I was placing Neo magnets in the center tube to see the effects. One effect with a large 1/2 inch sphere is that the coil holds the magnet at dead center of the coil in the tube. It will lift it off the table and it hovers inside the tube. Secondly while playing with a smaller sphere I noticed it would spin for a moment once in the center of the tube. So I placed it on top a small plastic tube inside the tube the pancake coil is wound on and the magnet spun up and ran like a single magnet Bedini motor. I was amazed by this. Has anyone else had this experience. I filmed the small magnet spinning if anyone would like to see it.

[7imix]

I was powering my single wire pancake coil with the Stingo the other night and I was placing Neo magnets in the center tube to see the effects. One effect with a large 1/2 inch sphere is that the coil holds the magnet at dead center of the coil in the tube. It will lift it off the table and it hovers inside the tube. Secondly while playing with a smaller sphere I noticed it would spin for a moment once in the center of the tube. So I placed it on top a small plastic tube inside the tube the pancake coil is wound on and the magnet spun up and ran like a single magnet Bedini motor. I was amazed by this. Has anyone else had this experience. I filmed the small magnet spinning if anyone would like to see it.

Very awesome. I am going to try this. Yes, please upload the video, I'd love to see it.

A magnetic vortex...

[sucahyo]

So, if i understood you well, i should use as source two primary batt. connected in series, and charge two other batt. connected in parallel ?...I will try just to see what will happen to charge two charging batt. in parallel, but only with one primary batt...If you think that 24 V will not jeopardize transistors of stingo than i will try two primarys in series too...I lost several tip 3055 and tip 2955 , and they are 1.5 $ each here, so...

That is expensive ..., I get a pair for that price. I prefer to use TIP32C/TIP31C at $0.2 each.

Yes, try charging paralel battery first, as many as you can. No need to test 24V, If you can explode transistor with 12V, it will be easier in 24V.

I recall Bedini mention we can only notice it with big battery. He use many big battery in parallel. Maybe he get OU because his 10 monopole reduce consumption with load and the load has low impedance from being parallelled.

I think we do not need to put it in series if we already observe COP>1 with parallel. If you have a lot battery, try switching parallel output with parallel input around.

Well, i made today just one stingo (not two, as i thought i was going to make yesterday), it took me 3 hours for winding toroid, and 1 hour for soldering stingo...

How many meter of wire that you use?

Did you use PCB?

I avoid PCB because:
- Bob Boyce mention that PCB may have effect on operation
- PCB take space
- soldering directly is faster for me

And i tried this new stingo with that big toroid, and i am not content with results, just about 30 % efficiency, maybe wrong wire or wrong number of wounds, or both, who knows.

I see. Too bad I can not suggest anything for that.

But after i conclude that it is it, i am going to try other stingo variants...First of all it is going to be that radiant sleeping aid of course !

I would love to hear the result .

So I placed it on top a small plastic tube inside the tube the pancake coil is wound on and the magnet spun up and ran like a single magnet Bedini motor. I was amazed by this. Has anyone else had this experience. I filmed the small magnet spinning if anyone would like to see it.

I would love to see the video too .

[7imix]

I did some experimenting oscillating some transformers I ripped out of wall wart plugs. It's pretty impressive what the stingo will do to it with only 5 volts.

YouTube - Stingo driving wall wart transformer

[Jiffycoil]

Stingo Neo Spinner Stingo and the Hover magnet

Here they are :

YouTube - Stingo Neo Spinner

YouTube - Stingo and the Hover magnet

[sucahyo]

I did some experimenting oscillating some transformers I ripped out of wall wart plugs. It's pretty impressive what the stingo will do to it with only 5 volts.

YouTube - Stingo driving wall wart transformer

Interesting. I rather surprise with the scope shot. Where that sine wave coming from .....

Here they are :

YouTube - Stingo Neo Spinner

YouTube - Stingo and the Hover magnet

Nice . Hovering magnet show we don't need bearing . I wonder how that can happen.....

[7imix]

Interesting. I rather surprise with the scope shot. Where that sine wave coming from .....

Yeah I'm glad I caught that. It was an anomaly. Eric dollard talks about the four waveforms, dc, ac, impulse current, and oscillating current where the oscillations are damped out over time. That transformer has such a big iron core, my guess is the impulses were generating oscillations which took a little while to damp.

[sucahyo]

Yeah I'm glad I caught that. It was an anomaly. Eric dollard talks about the four waveforms, dc, ac, impulse current, and oscillating current where the oscillations are damped out over time. That transformer has such a big iron core, my guess is the impulses were generating oscillations which took a little while to damp.

What make me interested is, in TPU, the sine wave represent the free energy.

Can you make the sine wave connect to the next wave? Some say this can be dangerous condition, so, becareful.

What condition needed for the longest sine wave?

How many ohm the primary and the secondary of the transformer?



@Jiffycoil, what is the orientation of the magnet? the pole is being rotated or the pole become the axist of rotation?


Whoops, the result bellow happen because one connection is broken. Ignore this. There is no way a meter can read a single wire result reliably.

Without 100K, my stingo can not charge a 10000uF capacitor.

BTW, today I found out that digital meter unable to read my stingo output. It give impossibly high value. I am sure the reading are too high because the charged battery voltage do not change.
YouTube - Digital meter is not reliable to measure stingo output

circuit:


Tuning is impossible for this circuit ....

Edit: Without the 100K resistor, it seems that both transistor get hot quicker.

[cikljamas]

Yes, try charging paralel battery first, as many as you can. No need to test 24V, If you can explode transistor with 12V, it will be easier in 24V.

I tried today with 3 batteries(charging) in parallel...Nothing happened...
No better results...Then i checked that Ossie Callahan REAC (radiant
energy accumulator converter) in my papers and the interesting thing
is that his REAC works with dead - sulphated lead acid batteries but
connected in series not parallel with charging battery...But
since i noticed that his circuit doesnt work good in the first place,
i have not continued with his project...He used a lot of bad words
commenting bedini ssg, but i think his circuit is much worse than
Bedinis...

How many meter of wire that you use?

Did you use PCB?

Between 6 and 10 m, depends of toroid core...
I do not use pcb for stingo, but thanks for warning !
Listen this : Yesterday i found out that first two toroid cores that i use
for stingo was of wrong composite (probably ferrite ones), that is why
my first stingos have whistled so loud...After i made a next few stingos
a become able to notice the difference between their sounds...That is
how i discovered another thing...I put two coils to one stingo for the
same reason : bad cores = bad performances...The puzzle is resolved !
You remember my complain about stingo loudness ? Now, we have the
explanation even for that...But, how come i accidentally do not stumble
across some OU discovery ?

[sucahyo]

I tried today with 3 batteries(charging) in parallel...Nothing happened... No better results.

You mean you do not observe less consumption or more efficient output? Did you still get undischarged source battery?

Would the output battery get charged?

Listen this : Yesterday i found out that first two toroid cores that i use for stingo was of wrong composite (probably ferrite ones), that is why my first stingos have whistled so loud...After i made a next few stingos a become able to notice the difference between their sounds...That is how i discovered another thing...I put two coils to one stingo for the same reason : bad cores = bad performances...The puzzle is resolved ! You remember my complain about stingo loudness ? Now, we have the explanation even for that...But, how come i accidentally do not stumble
across some OU discovery ?

Thanks for the info. Yes, the core can make it sing louder.

About the OU, thousands of people have been using toroid but only very few ever claim OU. Don't worry too much . Louder do not means greater output.

[cikljamas]

You mean you do not observe less consumption or more efficient output? Did you still get undischarged source battery?

Would the output battery get charged?

Yes, i do not observe less consumption neither more efficient output !
Regarding undischarged source battery, i would not hesitate to boast
if i succeeded to achieve OU for real, unfortunately it was just 5 min.
of delusion...
Output battery get charged but for price of 50-60 or in some cases
even 99 % of efficiency and if we want OU in selfcharging manner
(one source and charging batt. in the same time) then we have to
have clear COP > 1 not just close to that or even COP = 1, it is no
good too, it has to be COP > 1 to make sense whole stuff like this
Waykjyky hex controlled charger...

Louder do not means greater output.

Yeah, louder very probably means lesser output !

Tomorrow i got appointment with one guy who has factory that
produce toroids, he asked me what kind of cores i need, i said
high frequencies cores, did i answer well ?
Since i do not have equipment to measure Hz i do not know exactly
what frequencies stingo produce, can you help me about that ?
Hey we speak in real time, it is awesome !
Rgds !

[sucahyo]

Yes, i do not observe less consumption neither more efficient output !

I see. That is weird.

I thought that by paralleling battery we get reduced input. I will check again.

Regarding undischarged source battery, i would not hesitate to boast if i succeeded to achieve OU for real, unfortunately it was just 5 min. of delusion...
Output battery get charged but for price of 50-60 or in some cases even 99 % of efficiency and if we want OU in selfcharging manner (one source and charging batt. in the same time) then we have to have clear COP > 1 not just close to that or even COP = 1, it is no good too, it has to be COP > 1 to make sense whole stuff like this Waykjyky hex controlled charger...

For a circuit that consume 350mA, that is good . Agree that we need something more powerfull. hex controller charger produce at least 4 times.

Tomorrow i got appointment with one guy who has factory that produce toroids, he asked me what kind of cores i need, i said
high frequencies cores, did i answer well ?
Since i do not have equipment to measure Hz i do not know exactly what frequencies stingo produce, can you help me about that ? Hey we speak in real time, it is awesome !

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That is very nice that you can ask what kind of toroid to use . Unfortunately, I can not give sure answer. Bob Boyce use low permeability core. Bedini suggest rusty iron. Aspden suggest core that do not easily saturated.

At the spec it seem the one Bob Boyce use (Micrometals T650-52) have the biggest AL, nH/N2 = 434, whatever that means:
Toroidal Cores, Micrometals Toroidal Cores - Power Conversion Products :: Infantron Singapore

The stingo can work between 100Hz to 500kHz depend on coil winding and impedance.