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  • #61
    Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
    Thank you . The helix remind me of Schauberger story on Alexanderson - Living water:
    This make me believe more about healthy energy will produce clear ice with helix / spiral in it just like a healthy lake does.
    This is very interesting and great idea to capture those images in ice. Very nice.


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    • #62
      Originally posted by Godfrey View Post
      Hi All,

      Thanks, blackchisel97 for starting a very interesting thread and also, as well as jeanna and Sputins, for sharing your pyramid experiment results! Came late to this thread and am only half way through the posts, but felt inspired to chime in.



      In Sucahyo’s thread:

      High Frequency use for Health

      I mentioned just a few details of this documentary:

      The Pyramid Code

      This gathering of pyramid aficionados would enjoy every bit of the whole 5 episode program immensely! I originally saw a few episodes on the Documentary Channel. It can be viewed in its entirety right now on YouTube. Check it out! Thanks



      Mine too. My wife saw that documentary and then told me some very interesting stuff that I will relate further on encouraged by your lead and the channelings of future pather. She dug up a book she originally bought and read back in the ‘70’s, which I just started: The Secret Power of Pyramids.
      I'll try to find this book.



      You just stimulating conversation Sucahyo? You should have a lot of answers to your own question



      That’s the thing that’s bothered me about inside a pyramid experiments. There’s not much room in the Great Pyramid of Gisa nor any of the other known Pyramids, and its unadorned interior may afford us a clue that it wasn’t meant to be occupied, even by mummies. The open granite box in the “King’s Chamber” may not be the remains of a sarcophagus at all. In fact, contradicting popular theory, no mummy has ever been found in an Egyptian pyramid. And as far as I know, very few, if any, pyramid miniatures, for inside the house, have been recovered in Egyptian artifacts. No lawn gnomes either I second that. What id those granite boxes were not what we think they were



      Excerpts from Peter Grandics' Pyramid Electrical Generator:




      In The Pyramid Code, it is observed that there are many natural limestone tunnels beneath the great pyramid of Gisa. During an earlier period, the Nile River was actually very close by, and so running water flowed in these tunnels. Such activity is known to generate electrical current, which reaches the subterranean tunnel of the pyramid. So there is your active agent to turn the whole works into a giant power generator – the type that also would generate positive orgone, which would boost the health and positive attitude of all nearby, as well as enhance crop production. Simple, passive devices, not even necessitating coils, could harness it as electrical power and lighting. It was further observed that Tesla’s broadcast energy tower was also located on such natural limestone aquifers, as well as Stonehenge.

      My wife says that the capstone was made of quartz crystal, mounted inside a frame and base of electrum. She also said that the capstone glowed very brightly at night. She thinks that the huge quartz crystal basins that can be found at certain pyramid sites were lighting devices, which were filled partly with mercury and sealed with a glass cover. They collected solar energy during the day and gave off that energy as light at night.
      I keep an eye on quartz crystal, pyramid shaped. I'll try to get it.
      I have those three persistent ideas; quartz, metal and some coil. How, why and where remains unknown atm.


      You have shared some important stuff. Please continue




      Wow, that last picture of the Tesla coil pyramid blew me away! This is all that’s necessary to model a pyramid power generator. Put the right coil under a gold tipped pyramid crystal, or something similar. That is something I'm thinking too..

      - Godfrey
      Thanks
      Vtech
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      • #63
        Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
        That is interesting . please share the very interestnig stuff .


        I still clueless and I want to know more . I don't think my version is better too.


        Yes I hope there is more info on what is the actual use of pyramid.

        I am now believe in Alsaadawi translation of Ancient hieroglyph, which is radically different from Champollion. amun is moses, thoth is noah, osiris is jesus etc. So I am looking forward for the explanation of pyramid from non sun god point of view.


        Very interesting . Keely's ball contain half liquid and half gas mercury.


        Here is Garry Vassilatos word:
        That's a great quote from Garry


        Vtech
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        • #64
          Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
          Thanks for the info . Can you ask your source if there are relation between King David and pyramid technology?
          Sorry for the belated reply. . . The Ra material is no longer currently channeled as far as I know. What I posted of that came from info channeled in the years 1981-1984.

          Here is some more of what Ra said on pyramids. (It matches with the other info I posted which came from Richard Pressor and Carolyn Evers who currently continue to channel different beings but it's been harder to get through on their radio show lately to ask specific questions. They are the ones who channeled Isis explaining that the pyramids were places to be visited along specific spiritual journeys where healing and consciousness expanding meditations took place.)

          "The larger pyramids were built by our ability using the forces of One. The stones are alive. It has not been so understood by the mind/body/spirit distortions of your culture. The purposes of the pyramids were two:

          Firstly, to have a properly-oriented place of initiation for those who wished to become purified or initiated channels for the Law of One.

          Two, we wished then to carefully guide the initiates in developing a healing of the people whom they sought to aid and the planet itself. Pyramid after pyramid charged by the crystal and initiate were designed to balance the incoming energy of the One Creation with the many and multiple distortions of the planetary mind/body/spirit. In this effort we were able to continue work that brothers within the Confederation had effected through building of other crystal-bearing structures and thus complete a ring, if you will, of these about the Earth’s, as this instrument would have us vibrate it, surface.. . .

          The so-called Great Pyramid had two capstones. One was of our design and was of smaller and carefully contrived pieces of the material upon your planet which you call “granite.” This was contrived for crystalline properties and for the proper flow of your atmosphere via a type of what you would call “chimney.” At a time when we as a people had left your density, the original was taken away and a more precious one substituted. It consisted, in part, of a golden material. This did not change the properties of the pyramid, as you call it, at all, and was a distortion due to the desire of a few to mandate the use of the structure as a royal place only."


          More Ra on pyramids here:

          The Law of One, Pyramids
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          • #65
            ... and there is another less know theory about the pyramids. First you have to consider that Egypt pyramids are not the only similar structure, but rather part of a much larger network.

            Secondly: The pyramids were electrical / energy generators; possibly even type of nuclear. Google "Nuclear+pyramids"

            also see about damages in pyramids - i.e the Red pyramid, huge boulders cracked from extreme exposive type of force. Others that were totally destroyed, molten silica, etc.

            Lastly: Puma Punku; a huge temple of extremely perfect cut stone blocks; all scattered over large area like it was destroyed by explosion of some kind.

            Anxiously awaiting China approval for archeologists to excavate on their three tier pyramids. I think we will learn big secrets from there since they were not pludered like Egyptions.
            Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by future pather View Post
              Sorry for the belated reply. . . The Ra material is no longer currently channeled as far as I know. What I posted of that came from info channeled in the years 1981-1984.

              Here is some more of what Ra said on pyramids. (It matches with the other info I posted which came from Richard Pressor and Carolyn Evers who currently continue to channel different beings but it's been harder to get through on their radio show lately to ask specific questions. They are the ones who channeled Isis explaining that the pyramids were places to be visited along specific spiritual journeys where healing and consciousness expanding meditations took place.)

              "The larger pyramids were built by our ability using the forces of One. The stones are alive. It has not been so understood by the mind/body/spirit distortions of your culture. The purposes of the pyramids were two:

              Firstly, to have a properly-oriented place of initiation for those who wished to become purified or initiated channels for the Law of One.

              Two, we wished then to carefully guide the initiates in developing a healing of the people whom they sought to aid and the planet itself. Pyramid after pyramid charged by the crystal and initiate were designed to balance the incoming energy of the One Creation with the many and multiple distortions of the planetary mind/body/spirit. In this effort we were able to continue work that brothers within the Confederation had effected through building of other crystal-bearing structures and thus complete a ring, if you will, of these about the Earth’s, as this instrument would have us vibrate it, surface.. . .

              The so-called Great Pyramid had two capstones. One was of our design and was of smaller and carefully contrived pieces of the material upon your planet which you call “granite.” This was contrived for crystalline properties and for the proper flow of your atmosphere via a type of what you would call “chimney.” At a time when we as a people had left your density, the original was taken away and a more precious one substituted. It consisted, in part, of a golden material. This did not change the properties of the pyramid, as you call it, at all, and was a distortion due to the desire of a few to mandate the use of the structure as a royal place only."


              More Ra on pyramids here:

              The Law of One, Pyramids

              This is very interesting, please share if you have any more material.


              Vtech
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              • #67
                Originally posted by Aromaz View Post
                ... and there is another less know theory about the pyramids. First you have to consider that Egypt pyramids are not the only similar structure, but rather part of a much larger network. Yes, I strongly believe that their location was rather precisely chosen and those structures built by different cultures would form sort of a grid or network if connected together.

                Secondly: The pyramids were electrical / energy generators; possibly even type of nuclear. Google "Nuclear+pyramids" Great Pyramid at Giza - Nuclear Pyramid . com,

                also see about damages in pyramids - i.e the Red pyramid, huge boulders cracked from extreme exposive type of force. Others that were totally destroyed, molten silica, etc. Found some info -The Ancient Egypt Site

                Lastly: Puma Punku; a huge temple of extremely perfect cut stone blocks; all scattered over large area like it was destroyed by explosion of some kind. - That's what I found World Mysteries - Mystic Places - Puma Punku - Puma Punka"]World Mysteries - Mystic Places - Puma Punku - Puma Punka[/URL]

                Anxiously awaiting China approval for archeologists to excavate on their three tier pyramids. I think we will learn big secrets from there since they were not pludered like Egyptions.
                It may take some time and will depend on China position as far as revealing this. It would be great opportunity to fill some blank pages we still have as far as true purpose of those "devices".

                Thank you for those details Aromaz, I'm aware that your experience is quite broad. Don't hesitate to drop by and share some more



                Vtech
                Last edited by blackchisel97; 10-22-2010, 01:41 AM. Reason: missing link
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                • #68
                  Thank you future panther .
                  Originally posted by future pather View Post
                  The larger pyramids were built by our ability using the forces of One.
                  Seeing the quality that exceed even todays technology, that is what I suspect too, other than more advance than todays technology.

                  Originally posted by future pather View Post
                  The stones are alive.
                  That make it more amazing. If it is alive then it has polarity, if it has polarity then all the stone box pole must face the same direction in 3D, otherwise the effect destroyed.

                  Originally posted by future pather View Post
                  Firstly, to have a properly-oriented place of initiation for those who wished to become purified or initiated channels for the Law of One.

                  Two, we wished then to carefully guide the initiates in developing a healing of the people whom they sought to aid and the planet itself.
                  Sound a lot like specially designed orgonite .

                  Thank you for the link .

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                  • #69
                    more tests with orgonite inside

                    Away from home but asked my wife to place orgonite on different levels inside pyramid. There is a different energy field and aura has change color to light blue. Purple and black is gone. Also, there is not observed yet deterioration process on some veggie samples placed inside as it was happening fast before - faster than another batch placed away. Too early to tell but something is different.


                    V
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                    • #70
                      My note from future panther link
                      Furthermore, as we have said, the powerful effect of the pyramid, with its mandatory disruption of the armoring, if used without the crystallized being, used with the wrong intention, or in the wrong configuration, can result in further distortions of entities which are perhaps the equal of some of your chemicals which cause disruptions in the energy fields in like manner.

                      ...

                      The pyramid may be used for the improvement of the meditative state as long as the shape is such that the entity is in Queen's Chamber position or entities are in balanced configuration about this central point.

                      The small pyramid shape, placed beneath a portion of the body complex may energize this body complex. This should be done for brief periods only, not to exceed 30 of your minutes.

                      ...

                      Thus this is the place of the initiate, for many extraneous items or distortions will leave the entity as it intensifies its seeking, so that it may become one with this centralized and purified in-coming light.

                      ...

                      Your assumption is correct. If the shape is of appropriate size it may be placed directly beneath the cushion of the head or the pallet upon which the body complex rests.

                      We again caution that the third spiral of upward lining light, that which is emitted from the apex of this shape, is most deleterious to an entity in overdose and should not be used over-long.
                      ...

                      Only the proportion of the height of the pyramid from base to apex to the perimeter of the base is at all important.

                      ...

                      the sum of the four base sides should be 1.16 of the height of the pyramid

                      ...

                      The dangerous pyramid shape for use today would be a four-sided pyramid that was large enough to create the King’s Chamber effect.

                      ...

                      it might be dangerous to use a 76° angle pyramid, ... The lesser angle may be any angle less than 70°.

                      ...

                      If one corner is oriented to the magnetic north, the energy will be enhanced in its focus also.

                      ...

                      You must picture the double teardrop extending in both the plane of the pyramid face and in half towards the Queen’s Chamber extending above and below it. You may see this as the position where the light has been scooped into the spiral and then is expanding again. This position is what you may call a prana vacuum... reverse aging, ....Aging is a function of the effects of various electro-magnetic fields upon the electromagnetic fields of the mind/body/spirit complex. In this position there is no input or disturbance of the fields, nor is any activity within the electro-magnetic field complex of the mind/body/spirit complex allowed full sway. The vacuum sucks any such disturbance away. Thus the entity feels nothing and is suspended.

                      ...

                      Given that the proportions are such as to develop the spirals in the Giza pyramid, the most appropriate size for use beneath the head is an overall height small enough to make placing it under the cushion of the head a comfortable thing. ...For energy through the apex angle the Giza pyramid offers an excellent model. Simply be sure the pyramid is so small that there is no entity small enough to crawl inside it.

                      ...

                      In most cases, no more than one. In a few cases, especially where the energy will be used for spiritual work, experimentation with two shorter periods might be possible, but any feeling of sudden weariness would be a sure sign that the entity had been over-radiated.

                      ...

                      There is no application for direct healing using this energy although, if used in conjunction with meditation, it may offer to a certain percentage of entities some aid in meditation. In most cases it is most helpful in alleviating weariness and in the stimulation of physical or sexual activity.
                      Seems pyramid is similar to orgone accumulator treatment and the use of any disinfectant or anti bactery, where we should never use it too long. The overdose symptom match Reich deadly orgone overdose and the stimulation effect match the definition of Reichenbach od positive (deadly orgone = od positive, life orgone = od negative). The reverse aging seems similar to life orgone, so life orgone location exist just like what blackchisel found to have warmth radiating from hand.

                      It seems the king chamber location is dangerous and should be avoided. And queen chamber is the position for healing. there is also reverse aging position under queen chamber.


                      Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
                      Away from home but asked my wife to place orgonite on different levels inside pyramid. There is a different energy field and aura has change color to light blue. Purple and black is gone. Also, there is not observed yet deterioration process on some veggie samples placed inside as it was happening fast before - faster than another batch placed away. Too early to tell but something is different.


                      V
                      Very interesting . I read that purple and black are bad. From the note it seems crystal is required on top of king chamber position too?
                      Last edited by sucahyo; 10-22-2010, 06:35 AM.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
                        It seems the king chamber location is dangerous and should be avoided. And queen chamber is the position for healing. there is also reverse aging position under queen chamber.
                        I took the info about the kings chamber to be specific about current conditions on earth. I think all the pyramids were intended for good use but the conditions must be a certain way and proper use must occur.

                        "Is the large pyramid at Giza still usable for this purpose, or is it no longer functional?

                        Ra: I am Ra. That, like many other pyramid structures, is like the piano out of tune. It, as this instrument would express, plays the tune but, oh, so poorly. The disharmony jangles the sensitive. Only the ghost of the streaming still remains due to the shifting of the streaming points which is in turn due to the shifting electromagnetic field of your planet; due also to the discordant vibratory complexes of those who have used the initiatory and healing place for less compassionate purposes. . . .


                        It is quite possible for you to build a pyramid structure. The material used is not critical, merely the ratios of time/space complexes. However, the use of the structure for initiation and healing depends completely upon the inner disciplines of the channels attempting such work."


                        Very interesting . I read that purple and black are bad. From the note it seems crystal is required on top of king chamber position too?[/QUOTE]

                        "The so-called Great Pyramid had two capstones. One was of our design and was of smaller and carefully contrived pieces of the material upon your planet which you call “granite.” This was contrived for crystalline properties and for the proper flow of your atmosphere via a type of what you would call “chimney.” At a time when we as a people had left your density, the original was taken away and a more precious one substituted. It consisted, in part, of a golden material. This did not change the properties of the pyramid, as you call it, at all, and was a distortion due to the desire of a few to mandate the use of the structure as a royal place only. . .

                        What did you mean by chimney? What was its specific purpose?

                        Ra: There is a proper flow of your atmosphere which, though small, freshens the whole of the structure. This was designed by having air-flow ducts, as this instrument might call them, situated so that there was a freshness of atmosphere without any disturbance or draft."
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                        • #72
                          Thank you, about crystal in king chamber I mean:
                          Questioner: How does the healing that you just told us about relate to the healing done in the King’s Chamber in the Giza pyramid?

                          Ra: I am Ra. There are two advantages to doing this working in such a configuration of shapes and dimensions.

                          Firstly, the disruption or interruption of the violet/red armoring or protective shell is automatic.

                          In the second place, the light is configured by the very placement of this position in the seven distinctive color or energy vibratory rates, thus allowing the energy through the crystallized being, focused with the crystal, to manipulate with great ease the undisturbed and, shall we say, carefully delineated palate of energies or colors, both in space/time and in time/space. Thus the unarmored being may be adjusted rapidly. This is desirable in some cases, especially when the armoring is the largest moiety of the possibility of continued function of body complex activity in this density. The trauma of the interruption of this armoring vibration is then seen to be lessened.

                          We take this opportunity to pursue our honor/duty, as some of those creating the pyramid shape, to note that it is in no way necessary to use this shape in order to achieve healings, for seniority of vibration has caused the vibratory complexes of mind/ body/spirit complexes to be healed to be less vulnerable to the trauma of the interrupted armoring.

                          Furthermore, as we have said, the powerful effect of the pyramid, with its mandatory disruption of the armoring, if used without the crystallized being, used with the wrong intention, or in the wrong configuration, can result in further distortions of entities which are perhaps the equal of some of your chemicals which cause disruptions in the energy fields in like manner.

                          Questioner: Is there currently any use for the pyramid shape at all that is beneficial?

                          Ra: I am Ra. This is in the affirmative if carefully used.

                          The pyramid may be used for the improvement of the meditative state as long as the shape is such that the entity is in Queen’s Chamber position or entities are in balanced configuration about this central point.

                          The small pyramid shape, placed beneath a portion of the body complex may energize this body complex. This should be done for brief periods only, not to exceed 30 of your minutes.

                          The use of the pyramid to balance planetary energies still functions to a slight extent, but due to earth changes, the pyramids are no longer aligned properly for this work.
                          My conclution:
                          Healing activity were in King chamber but require crystal, now the best location is in queens chamber.

                          I think we should see if putting orgonite (which should contain crystal) in king's chamber position can change blackchisel pyramid to produce good energy instead.
                          Last edited by sucahyo; 10-23-2010, 05:22 AM.

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                          • #73
                            Oh I see, that really makes sense
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                            • #74
                              More tests and observations

                              Finally got home after 6 wks. I did compare two batches of veggies placed in glass cookie jars; one inside the pyramid and other, as far as I could move away - 10ft, which is about 3x base length away. I'm not sure if that is still too close. I had samples of carrots and beets from the garden, similar sizes placed in both jars. They've been there since Oct 11th. Temperature was around 20 C and humidity between 60% - 70%. While the "outside" samples look quite sad and depressed (shrunk, black spots on the carrots), carrots from pyramid look healthy, maintain color and beets from pyramid began to grow. There are 3-4" (10cm) stems with leaves. Also, there were fresh grapes samples tested. Those from pyramid aren't as firm as "new" but still edible. Samples outside dried more. Small green tomatoes were tested too. Those inside are still more orange/red while outside are bright red. Both samples are starting to dry but one from inside is firmer and edible. I'll post some pics later. Previous tests were totally opposite to what I was hoping to see. Deterioration occurred much faster inside, including infestation of fruit flies and other crawly fauna. Those recent ones were conducted between Oct 11 - Now 02 with one piece of orgonite placed inside as well as small quartz crystals combined in a cluster by wrapping cw copper coils around them. Orgonite was suspended approx. 5" under the apex. Crystal cluster was placed approx. on the level of Queen's chamber. There was also another crystal device on the same level and totally improvised. It consisted of double terminated Loohan Coil with few crystals inside, wrapped in their own coils and connected to the ends of Loohan coil. This wasn't following any particular idea and it may not make any sense in this set up.
                              I have a one problem. There is quite significant deviation in magnetic N between observed outside, in the yard and inside in the basement. I have 4 compasses and couldn't get them to agree upstairs. They work the same outside and in the basement where the pyramid is but there is approx. 7-10deg difference between outside and inside. I re -oriented pyramid last night according to the N measured outside. Also, I closed three sides with plastic sheet, leaving only access thru South side. I placed cw 16" flat spiral coil on the bottom, added metal cap and suspended vertical spiral coil from it. Bottom coil is grounded (9' below the ground level). Both coils are connected by moebius wrapped quartz crystal on the level of Kings chamber. There are also two orgonites, one on the King higth and one on the Queen.
                              There is detectable stream of energy coming from the apex but the strongest feeling is around upper spiral, which is pulsating not constant and the freq. is about 1Hz. There is also warm and pleasant feeling around the crystal. This warmth spreads from inside of the palm of hand towards the elbow. There is almost nothing detectable on top of orgonites. Piercing, painful feeling experienced on the beginning is no longer detectable anywhere inside or near the structure. I'll have more details on aura later but there is domination of light blue in the spectrum. Lots to digest and figure out further direction. Got my 4" bifilar starship done last night and my finger tips are a bit sore.


                              Vtech
                              'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

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                              • #75
                                Interesting reading here:
                                ON THE WAY TO THE DISCLOSING OF MYSTERIOUS POWER OF THE GREAT PYRAMID

                                Altair

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