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  • #31
    It makes a lot of sense

    I was thinking of replacing the top with metallic "capstone". Don't have any gold but perhaps silver or even copper should work. I like the idea of coil around the top. Originally something was telling me to place a coil inside and starship came to my mind since it is simpler to wind than toroidal and may just work the same. However, I have to first figure out what causes mine to emit rather negative energy. Don't imagine having so much electro smog in my house to cause that.

    again, very sound theory and thank you for your input

    I have to start rolling towards Montreal. Will come back when I find a WiFi spot.
    btw I found something on electrosmog - Detect & Protect | What is Electrosmog?


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    Last edited by blackchisel97; 10-11-2010, 06:01 PM. Reason: typo
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    • #32
      I would suggest...

      If you don't mind you might want to make the sides real faces not just wave guides. The energy you are feeling is a splash effect since the energy can not be compressed it is splashing out the sides. This creates a higher energy potential and pulls energy away from anything it splashed through. Remember this should be the same energy that causes gravity in masses. There is not enough to cause a sideways push on you but there is enough to strip energy from you as it escapes the wave guide. That could be dangerous. So close the sides up. It needs to stay contained which usually in the real pyramids is done by the internal fill with a dielectric coating on the out side of the faces or sides of the pyramid. Any spray coating of dielectric would do if you decide to make a the faces or sides. I would also use a metallic fill for the inside as well if you are going for power generation.

      If you have it closed up then adding the dielectric coating should help and yes put any conducting tip on it. It will help focus the energy to go up instead of out of your waveguide (pyramid).

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      • #33
        Good idea

        Originally posted by Jbignes5 View Post
        If you don't mind you might want to make the sides real faces not just wave guides. The energy you are feeling is a splash effect since the energy can not be compressed it is splashing out the sides. This creates a higher energy potential and pulls energy away from anything it splashed through. Remember this should be the same energy that causes gravity in masses. There is not enough to cause a sideways push on you but there is enough to strip energy from you as it escapes the wave guide. That could be dangerous. So close the sides up. It needs to stay contained which usually in the real pyramids is done by the internal fill with a dielectric coating on the out side of the faces or sides of the pyramid. Any spray coating of dielectric would do if you decide to make a the faces or sides. I would also use a metallic fill for the inside as well if you are going for power generation.

        If you have it closed up then adding the dielectric coating should help and yes put any conducting tip on it. It will help focus the energy to go up instead of out of your waveguide (pyramid).
        I'm glad I was still connected I appreciate your advise. I already told my wife earlier to close all sides and "floor" making only one accessible, like a door. When I get back I'll make them out of the thin wood and line with conductive foil inside. I wonder if coat of shellac on the outside would be sufficient. Probably glass would be better. Shellac is natural not synthetic material. I wonder what she could use meanwhile


        Vtech
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        • #34
          My initial thought was....

          Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
          I'm glad I was still connected I appreciate your advise. I already told my wife earlier to close all sides and "floor" making only one accessible, like a door. When I get back I'll make them out of the thin wood and line with conductive foil inside. I wonder if coat of shellac on the outside would be sufficient. Probably glass would be better. Shellac is natural not synthetic material. I wonder what she could use meanwhile


          Vtech
          Shellac was my initial thought. But plastic would be better I would think afterwards and that can be mounted on top of the shellac. You can try foil but a fill would be better afterwards. Maybe some pink granite pured like a cement into the interior. I am sure they have pink granite as a cement.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
            But why is that My wife moved into the basement and I told her to do proper grounding before conducting further tests. On the upper level she couldn't find compasses agreeing with each other at least downstairs they showing the same.
            My radiant sleeping aid have the opposite effect if I ground it. Some people here mention headache from their device if they ground them.

            I don't mention this before because I thought your grounding source is reliable. You should try to connect it with a bucket of water, ungrounded.


            Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
            Why it would be such high concentration of DOR inside? My understanding of DOR (according to Rife) was that is some serious pollution causing it such as nuclear substance. I don't have anything like that in my house or in the neighborhood. There is no cell tower in close proximity, only few windmills within a mile or so.
            I believe DOR can be produced by your electronics, your well, underground water river, lay line, lief electric wire, bad spot, etc. Your house can become neighboorhood orgone absorber too if your wall have metallic paint or metal part.


            Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
            Well, I think that everything has something to do with electricity
            Electricity or magnetism can not explain why I can see this effect on ice with just stone:



            That is non electric, non magnetic quartz stone. And I do measure it with compass and voltmeter to make sure of it. Fog is a sign of DOR energy, clear part is a sign of POR energy. What you see is alternating layer of POR and DOR produced by a live crystal.


            Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
            I found some links about DOR - Wilhelm Reich: The Theory of Orgone
            My version is here, and I think more complete than Reich version:
            http://www.energeticforum.com/health...ead.php?t=5524

            Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
            I wonder if my small ORAC may have something to do with it since they may attract DOR as well but the water from ORAC taste good. I also have so called HHD in the garden, outside and couple orgonite pieces in the house; one near the main comp and one near the fish pond. What may cause such high EMF pollution?? My energizers are traveling with me and the only one left in the house is turned off. I'm puzzled.
            Do the bird or other animal like being in your garden with orgonite? Do your sky blue or whiter?

            Collect all the orgonite you have inside the pyramid and then feel the energy. If the orgonite work like it should, then the energy inside the pyramid must feel good no matter how bad the surrounding is.

            I strongly believe that a good orgonite produce the same aura as battery negative pole. While bad orgonite will produce the same aura as battery positive pole. I use negative radiant for my radiant sleeping aid.

            Originally posted by blackchisel97 View Post
            However, I have to first figure out what causes mine to emit rather negative energy. Don't imagine having so much electro smog in my house to cause that.

            btw I found something on electrosmog - Detect & Protect | What is Electrosmog?
            I strongly believe that electrosmog is actually deadly orgone.

            When you build an orgone accumulator, you will collect anything around no matter what it is. I believe you pyramid is strongly influenced with surrounding which happen to be filled with deadly orgone. The pyramid may collect different energy if you put it on the garden.

            Some achieve conversion from deadly orgone to life orgone, but I don't think the science is mature yet.

            For pyramid shape, I would try to mimic the real one with:
            size = original size x pi^(n)

            where n must not be fractional, an ordinal number that can be positive or negative.
            Last edited by sucahyo; 10-12-2010, 03:31 AM.

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            • #36
              So it seems your pyramid is accumulating the wrong orgone...

              Please re-check your angles to assure they are what they should be. Maybe the angles are wrong?

              One thing that was learned from orgonite was that quartz can rectify orgone. I also have learned from hardcore weather modifiers and people who strictly follow Willheim Reich that Don Croft's orgonite is a bad direction.

              Who knows.

              But quartz has been photographed with ultra long exposures in dark boxes to have an energy emit off its tip. Sorry I have no link... :-( for me... Theres alot of aura photographs with crystals improving the aura, anyway, maybe it does something anyway.

              Try this. Get some quartz crystals, double terminated if possible. Tie them up and dangle them from the middle of the pyramid at the 1/3 2/3 and 3/3 meridians. Let it bake in the good vibes for a while and then repeat experiments.

              How did you get the color of the energy?

              Honestly from what I have read maybe the problem is the angles are wrong. Did you use Phi?

              @Suchyo
              Quartz becomes a resonating dipole when stressed, and water increases volume when frozen. the water squeezes the quartz so there is a little pressure gradient during the freezing process. However, it freezes from outside to in, and basically the fog would have frozen before the crystal got pressurized (maybe). Still, it is interesting! Is it repeatable?
              Last edited by CosmicFarmer; 10-12-2010, 02:38 PM.

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              • #37
                Does anybody know the correct proportions for a "classic" pyramid ?
                I had read somewhere that the base / height ratio was 11:7, which is 1.571

                However, Phi is very close to that, being 1.618.
                I have drawn both types just to see the differences.

                One interesting point is that on the 11 / 7 pyramid, the ratio of the length of an angled side (1.272) divided by half the length of the base (.786) gives exactly Phi (1.618) !

                So which one is the correct one ?

                Altair
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                • #38
                  It seems to me the 51.8 degree angle would be measured from the tilted walls to the base. It wouldn't be the actual angle on the triangle, more like the tilted angle from the floor once assembled.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by CosmicFarmer View Post
                    One thing that was learned from orgonite was that quartz can rectify orgone.
                    I would say chaotic polarizing.


                    Originally posted by CosmicFarmer View Post
                    I also have learned from hardcore weather modifiers and people who strictly follow Willheim Reich that Don Croft's orgonite is a bad direction.
                    I agree because we can make mistakes easier with Don Crofts way, there are many proof. But I still doubt strict method will give good influence on nature too. I doubt both until there is 100% headache less solution.


                    Originally posted by CosmicFarmer View Post
                    @Suchyo
                    Quartz becomes a resonating dipole when stressed, and water increases volume when frozen. the water squeezes the quartz so there is a little pressure gradient during the freezing process. However, it freezes from outside to in, and basically the fog would have frozen before the crystal got pressurized (maybe). Still, it is interesting! Is it repeatable?
                    It is repeatable. Fog is not the only thing a crystal can do, it can make clear ice too with some coil wrapping. same rock inside coil:
                    The ice is clear and there are many air helix formed in the ice that look like a line in the picture:



                    After putting it up side down the ice has intermittent foggy part where the metal seems to clear the fog stream:



                    This is an example of the crystal fog by passing some metal screen layer. The ice is clear at / between the metal screen layer but become foggy after the layer.



                    If the effect happen because of piezoelectric then 9V battery would give similar effect, but it didn't.

                    Not all quartz can change ice, there are people who fail to get those result.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by dragon View Post
                      It seems to me the 51.8 degree angle would be measured from the tilted walls to the base. It wouldn't be the actual angle on the triangle, more like the tilted angle from the floor once assembled.
                      dragon, this is exactly what I'm showing.
                      The drawing is a side view of the pyramid, not the planview of a face.
                      The planview (view perpendicular to the plane of the triangle) of a face would be 1.572 wide by 1.272 high, for the 11/7 pyramid.
                      Last edited by Altair; 10-13-2010, 04:15 PM.

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                      • #41
                        Here is my pyramid I made just now, made of copper wire. I use pi derrivative of Giza pyramid for each segment length, base x top frame:
                        756.00 feet x 611.7348042 feet
                        23042.88 cm x 18645.68 cm
                        7334.78 cm x 5935.10 cm
                        2334.73 cm x 1889.20 cm
                        743.17 cm x 601.35 cm
                        236.56 cm x 191.42 cm
                        75.30 cm x 60.93 cm
                        23.97 cm x 19.39 cm
                        7.63 cm x 6.17 cm
                        2.43 cm x 1.97 cm


                        My reason for pi derrivative is if we use pi golden ratio for the geometry why not use pi for the scalling of the real thing as well. I think it is better than using abritrary size or our 10 base mathematic. We only have very limited option for size though.

                        I actually cut the segment shorter to accomodate additional length cause by other segment wire width for joining.

                        Result:


                        With pendulum reading:
                        - with only square base without the top frame the energy reading is negative.
                        - completed pyramid has positive energy reading everywhere, top or inside or up side down.


                        This small pyramid give good feeling.
                        Last edited by sucahyo; 10-14-2010, 04:21 AM.

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                        • #42
                          Thanks sucahyo,
                          great idea to scale following Phi ratio.
                          But you wrote Pi which is 3.1416, and I think you meant Phi Golden Ratio (1.618)
                          Is that correct ?

                          See:
                          Phi: 1.618. The best source to the golden section, golden mean, divine proportion, Fibonacci series and phi, 1.618. Explore its application to art, design, life, beauty, mathematics, geometry, stock markets, theology, cosmology and more.

                          Altair

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                          • #43
                            Lol I forgot about that .

                            I guess I have it wrong then I use pi = 3.14, with PHI here is the list:
                            23042.88 cm x 18645.68 cm
                            14241.28 cm x 11523.66 cm
                            8801.60 cm x 7122.01 cm
                            5439.69 cm x 4401.65 cm
                            3361.91 cm x 2720.37 cm
                            2077.78 cm x 1681.28 cm
                            1284.14 cm x 1039.09 cm
                            793.64 cm x 642.19 cm
                            490.50 cm x 396.90 cm
                            303.14 cm x 245.30 cm
                            187.35 cm x 151.60 cm
                            115.79 cm x 93.69 cm
                            71.56 cm x 57.91 cm
                            44.23 cm x 35.79 cm
                            27.33 cm x 22.12 cm
                            16.89 cm x 13.67 cm
                            10.44 cm x 8.45 cm
                            6.45 cm x 5.22 cm
                            3.99 cm x 3.23 cm
                            2.46 cm x 1.99 cm


                            If frequency important then we can try note derrivation. 1 octave is twice bigger or smaller:
                            23042.88 cm x 18645.68 cm
                            11521.44 cm x 9322.84 cm
                            5760.72 cm x 4661.42 cm
                            2880.36 cm x 2330.71 cm
                            1440.18 cm x 1165.35 cm
                            720.09 cm x 582.68 cm
                            360.05 cm x 291.34 cm
                            180.02 cm x 145.67 cm
                            90.01 cm x 72.83 cm
                            45.01 cm x 36.42 cm
                            22.50 cm x 18.21 cm
                            11.25 cm x 9.10 cm
                            5.63 cm x 4.55 cm
                            2.81 cm x 2.28 cm


                            Since I got good result from wrong number I guess it doesn't really matter?
                            Last edited by sucahyo; 10-15-2010, 03:57 AM.

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                            • #44
                              Yeah it doesn't matter...

                              It is the pure shape that allows a good result. What you have is a wave guide especially when it is made of wires like you have. It brings organization to the chaotic flow of charges that are streaming to our planets core. There are methods that improve this organization but I believe you know them already.

                              Also Phi, I believe should be the ratio to organize the pyramid. Pi was to have it lay flat in reference to the planets cores position. So if one wanted the heaviest building to be perfectly flat in reference to the surface to the core one would need to know that the core was the determining factor of the circle you are trying to lay flat on. The center of the world would have to be known and then one could determine how to lay the first layer of the pyramid to have it stable.

                              To find the core would be the simplest. Dangle a string with a weight at the end. Where it points is the core. Of course that would be down. So they had part of the answer already.
                              Last edited by Jbignes5; 10-15-2010, 01:24 PM.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Jbignes5 View Post
                                Shellac was my initial thought. But plastic would be better I would think afterwards and that can be mounted on top of the shellac. You can try foil but a fill would be better afterwards. Maybe some pink granite pured like a cement into the interior. I am sure they have pink granite as a cement.
                                Maybe I should look into tumb stones makers supplies and see what they have available. I think I'll make couple smaller ones, glass? I'll see what I can get. I'll re check proportions and angles again when I get home. I was suppose to be there tomorrow and now looks like I'm heading to Pensacola, Ocala and Pompano Beach FL. Lovely I wont be home till end of week. Darn.
                                Meanwhile my better half decided to follow her intuition and run some additional test with the one we have atm. Interesting, she left key-chain, kind of thermometer/compass gadget inside for awhile. When she picked up it felt like being "loaded". She described this as strong warm field, stronger and different than underground water streams. That gadget is plastic but it felt warmer than plastic in ambient temp. The piece itself wasn't warm but the feeling was coming from it and spreading throughout the arm, to the elbow. She said that this sensation was almost painful. Tonight she was going to freeze some water samples placed in different areas.
                                I hope my house will be in the same spot when I get back. She is a witch and red headed one too


                                Vtech
                                'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'

                                General D.Eisenhower


                                http://www.nvtronics.org

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