Pyramid

[sucahyo]

Vtech, it seems pyramid swirler do not produce swirl within swirl, so maybe the result would be less powerfull. I will look forward for your picture .


I wonder if faster charging with spinning also apply to battery ......



What do you mean by frequency, Robur?


NickZ, what I mean by a good thing being shocked is if you miss (cured) one or two long pain or illness you have? Something small ?


About swirling water, I have been thinking on using disc. Although I still don't have good enough driver, the current one allow rotation of left and right.
YouTube - Spinning water with harddisk stingo motor

[blackchisel97]

Blackchisel:
I was wondering, after admiring your resin cast star coil, how it would work connected a couple of of your cement batteries.
You sure do nice clean work, keep it up.
I still want to have at least one or two working cement batteries. You have encouraged me.
I'll try the beach -sand, baking-soda, copper coil turned in through itself, beer can battery, before I give up. My big Hilda battery did not work either, only to give me a couple good shocks while I wasn't looking. Now that Sucahyo said that some shocks are good for you, I might not mind as much. But, when that thing zapped me,
I jumped through the roof...
I'll check into a couple of videos and get back to you. Interesting stuff going on all over.

My small starship incorporated into oscillator draws 90mA, regardless of LED's, either one or 25. Cement batteries (at least mine) will not provide more than 20mA. Not enough to get going. My small monopole rotor needs only 7.5 - 8mA and another oscillator with coil wound on small piece of iron will power LED on 3.7mA and 0.7V, so for testing cement batteries they are better. I didn't use beach sand since they are still covered in snow. I used traction sand/gravel, fish tank gravel and crushed rocks. Most have silicate added either water glass or radiator seal. I found copper one working better than aluminum. I also have one with copper sulphide crystals from electrolysis.


Vtech

[blackchisel97]

Vtech, it seems pyramid swirler do not produce swirl within swirl, so maybe the result would be less powerfull. I will look forward for your picture .
I wonder if faster charging with spinning also apply to battery ......
About swirling water, I have been thinking on using disc. Although I still don't have good enough driver, the current one allow rotation of left and right.
YouTube - Spinning water with harddisk stingo motor

I used a small motor (laser) from an old portable CD player. It runs on 3V.
Here are two pics of water:
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Vtech

[NickZ]

Sucahyo:
Some medical condition that you once had before is gone now, due to this kind of shock treatment?
If you rather PM you can, I just don't seam to always notice them.
Another quake in Japan?
Three days after full moon are the worst effects noticed on the pacific ocean tides, here.

[sucahyo]

I used a small motor (laser) from an old portable CD player. It runs on 3V.
Here are two pics of water:

Thank you. I just think that maybe disc swirler can be faster without much turbulance of a blade.

You result remind me of this result:

The one glass containing soil and the other pebbles from a lake.


A glass of plain water after the experiments in the freezer

Sucahyo:
Some medical condition that you once had before is gone now, due to this kind of shock treatment?
If you rather PM you can, I just don't seam to always notice them.
Another quake in Japan?
Three days after full moon are the worst effects noticed on the pacific ocean tides, here.

Yes, different references mention man got cured with shock .

I see earth quake happen more often in south of Indonesia, hopefully no quake will be big.

[NickZ]

Sucahyo:
Thanks for the info on the shock treatment. I had never heard of it.
I'll have to give it a try.

Capacitors are really very very interesting things. How they can help a 15 volt output joule thief to reach and charge and even hold several hundred volts is amazing. I'll bet your son loves them, ha. I remember my father used to charge up some big huge caps and short them out in from of me, bang!!!
Maybe home-made capacitors, can be connected to a bank of cement batteries. That would charge up together like "parallel charging", and supply some output 24/7. A lot higher than a volt or two. Just seam to me that capacitors and batteries can work hand in hand to store what the caps and batteries together can produce, but discharge it slowly, so it lasts longer.

[NickZ]

I just found out that my cement batteries may not work because of the plastic coating on the cans. I'll make new beach sand batteries tomorrow after sanding the inside of each can first. A meter does not show conductivity.

[sucahyo]

Sucahyo:
Thanks for the info on the shock treatment. I had never heard of it.
I'll have to give it a try.

Really ? . I don't think you need to jolt on each treatment. Under bearable level is ok I guess.

Your jolt and water capacitor remind me of Benjamin Franklin, for health, but I think distantly relevant to the purposes of storing the voltage:
The Turn Of The Century Electrotherapy Museum Tesla Library

Some years since, when the newspaper made mention of great cures performed in Italy or Germany, by means of electricity, a number of paralyticks were brought to me, from different parts of Pensylvania, and the neighbouring provinces, to be electrified; which I did for them at their request. My method was, to place the patient first in a chair, on an electrical stool, and draw a number of large strong spark from all parts of the affected limb or side. Then I fully charged to six gallon glass jars, each of which had about three square feet of surface coated; and I sent the united shock of these through the afffected limb or limbs, repeating the stroke commonly three times each day. The first thing observed, was an immediate greater sensible warmth in the lame limbs, that had received the stroke, than in others; and the next morning the patients usually related that the had, in the night, felt a pricking sensastion in the flesh of the paralytick limbs; and would sometimes shew a number os small red spots, which the fuppoled we occasioned by those prickings. The limbs too we found more capable of voluntary motion, and seemed to receive strength. A man, for instance, sho could not the first day lift the lame hand from off his knee, would the next day raise it four and five inches, the third day higher, and on the fifth day was able, but with feeble languid motion, to take off his hat.
These appearance gave great spirit to the patients, and made them hope a perfect cure; but I do not remember, that I ever saw any amendments after the fifth day; which the patients perceiving, and finding the shocks pretty severe, they became discouraged, went home and in a short time, relapsed; for that I never knew any advantage from electricity, in palsies, that was permanent. And how far the apparent temporary advantage might arise, from the exercise in the patients journey and coming daily to my house, or from the spirit given by the hope of success enabling them to exert more strength in moving their limbs, I will not pretend to say.
Perhaps some permanent advantage might have been obtained if the electric shocks had been accompanied with proper medicine and regimen, under the direction of skilful phyisician. It may be too, that a few great strokes, as given in my method, may not be so proper as many small ones; since, by the account from Scotland, of a cafe in which 200 shocks from a phial we given daily, it seems that a perfect cure has been made. As to any uncommon strength supposed to be in the machine used in that cafe, I imagine it could have no share in the effect produced; since the strength of the shock, from the charged glass, is in proportion to the quantity of the surface of the glass coated; so that my shock, from there fore large jars much have been much greater than any that could received from a phial held in the hand. I am, with great respect.

It seem they charge using electrostatic machine (wimhurst?) at that time. Converting voltage to current maybe...

[sucahyo]

Here is rotating water container, and lack of thought lol:
YouTube - Water spinning

[blackchisel97]

Here is rotating water container, and lack of thought lol:
YouTube - Water spinning

What if you glue hematite magnetic egg to your disc and have another in the glass above it. Kind of magnetic stirrer


Vtech

[NickZ]

Can also be done with water instead, by making a separate compartment below the jug that is spinning a magnet (or just metal, with water, that spins another egg manget that is in the bottom of the jug.
Does it have to be able to spin in both ways?, or just one way? I saw a video of that somewhere, I'll see it I can find it.
Its no problem to spin the water, but how to produce electricity from it.
I don't know if I follow the point.

[NickZ]

This video make a lot of sense, especially to me:
YouTube - zero point pyramid energy
I thought that I'd pass it along to see what you guys think. As it totally relates to where I'm coming from, at least, the direction I'd like to go towards. When I saw it, something went - click, and when I see the designs of his pyramids, my jaw dropped. There is something to this idea.
NickZ

[sucahyo]

What if you glue hematite magnetic egg to your disc and have another in the glass above it. Kind of magnetic stirrer

My problem is it spin too fast and make the water spilled all over, and I can not slow my circuit down.....

With magnet stirer, I think it would only work if we spin north and south. I don't think spinning magnet at N-S axis will produce spinning field.

With metal and magnet I think the speed of the outer part must be gradually increased to allow the inner part to keep up.


The succesful water spinner should force the water to stick at the outer wall and probably show air tube in the middle.

I spin both way in case it produce something else we do not expect.



Interesting video NickZ. The diagram make sense to me.

[NickZ]

Sucahyo and All:
I e-mailed the guy that made that last video about the pyramids. We'll see if he answers. I wonder why he doesn't explain the concept better.
He mentions that there is more information, but he won't post it ,yet.
Although he has been working on it for three years, it still doesn't work yet. Maybe there is something to it, and that the time is not right for it.
He mentions that he thinks it should be a team effort to complete a working device.

[dingo]

YouTube - Bashar - Free Energy Space-Time Antenna with Photos


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