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  • Originally posted by med.3012 View Post
    hello !


    i think it's the time to think about the oscillation inside the E-TBC , for sure there's a relation between R , L , C to achieve the increased oscillation, i posted ( in my thread ) a suggested relation based on magnetic power superiority compared the electric power, so we have :


    but we already have radiant energy inside this device as a source of voltage, radiant voltage can conduct more power when meet more resistance because it's reversed compared hot ordinary electricity, the capacitor inside the E-TBC have to absorb this radiant voltage... what do you think ?
    I'm always chewing on the mechanisms for this. I think cold electricity has the ability to be stored in capacitors, and discharged as hot electricity. This is why the E-TBC is interesting as it is a capacitor and a coil at the same time. The truth is we don't have test equipment that tracks it. It's like Tom Beardon said, our measurement devices all focus on electron wiggle. We could be harnessing resultant aspect contained in the nuclei interacting with each other. Nuclear Magnetic Resonance is real, and it's how our MRI work.

    We only know it has heavy magnetic component once magnetic resonance is achieved. So our wavelength equations start to lose value, because wave calculations are based on the speed of light, and waves based on electron orbitals (please correct me if I am wrong). These nuclei interactions (scaler waves) with each other may be moving faster the light, therefore the resonant wave must be calculated differently. Our hope is to be able to create the conditions where this happens at peak, and rectify and capture it in capacitors, or transform it to an AC we can use. I have seen the bulk of DS circuits being replicated where the frequency is changed for optimal electrical resonance, and people will build quarter wave coils. There has got to be something we are missing, or our assumptions are wrong. Beardon also said that the atomic nuclei is shielded by a Faraday cage...electrons. We don't know what's happening inside, and that's probably by design in my opinion. Sorry to type out loud.
    Last edited by ilandtan; 02-11-2016, 02:47 PM. Reason: better wording

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    • Originally posted by ilandtan View Post
      I'm always chewing on the mechanisms for this. I think cold electricity has the ability to be stored in capacitors, and discharged as hot electricity. This is why the E-TBC is interesting as it is a capacitor and a coil at the same time. The truth is we don't have test equipment that tracks it. It's like Tom Beardon said, our measurement devices all focus on electron wiggle. We could be harnessing resultant aspect contained in the nuclei interacting with each other. Nuclear Magnetic Resonance is real, and it's how our MRI work.

      We only know it has heavy magnetic component once magnetic resonance is achieved. So our wavelength equations start to lose value, because wave calculations are based on the speed of light, and waves based on electron orbitals (please correct me if I am wrong). These nuclei interactions (scaler waves) with each other may be moving faster the light, therefore the resonant wave must be calculated differently. Our hope is to be able to create the conditions where this happens at peak, and rectify and capture it in capacitors, or transform it to an AC we can use. I have seen the bulk of DS circuits being replicated where the frequency is changed for optimal electrical resonance, and people will build quarter wave coils. There has got to be something we are missing, or our assumptions are wrong. Beardon also said that the atomic nuclei is shielded by a Faraday cage...electrons. We don't know what's happening inside, and that's probably by design in my opinion. Sorry to type out loud.
      Hello!

      yes cold electricity can be stored in capacitor but we can't say it will be hot ordinary electricity even it maybe useful! you can test this if you open the junction CD and make the E-TBC resonate, the capacitor will be charged but you can't light an Incandescent light bulb.. maybe the battery is better in cold electricity than capacitors !

      with an E-TBC we can combine radiant voltage with electric current because it's able to combine two different spaces in one point, the same design work in an open environment,with the help of electrons spin mechanism we are able to replicate useful power with radio frequency, the electron is an amazing particle because it has the ability to work in different spaces, standing waves is a part of this system because it's already a capacitor as you said, the problem in this field is the little support we have! people prefer renewable energy system but they forget these system is also self renewable energy system !

      in my side i have a lots of ideas but a little equipment to work with, so the progress is slow but i am happy because we start to see the light from this system, maybe we are missing something but we are on the correct path !

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      • Originally posted by med.3012 View Post
        Hello!

        yes cold electricity can be stored in capacitor but we can't say it will be hot ordinary electricity even it maybe useful! you can test this if you open the junction CD and make the E-TBC resonate, the capacitor will be charged but you can't light an Incandescent light bulb.. maybe the battery is better in cold electricity than capacitors !

        with an E-TBC we can combine radiant voltage with electric current because it's able to combine two different spaces in one point, the same design work in an open environment,with the help of electrons spin mechanism we are able to replicate useful power with radio frequency, the electron is an amazing particle because it has the ability to work in different spaces, standing waves is a part of this system because it's already a capacitor as you said, the problem in this field is the little support we have! people prefer renewable energy system but they forget these system is also self renewable energy system !

        in my side i have a lots of ideas but a little equipment to work with, so the progress is slow but i am happy because we start to see the light from this system, maybe we are missing something but we are on the correct path !
        DS didn't use a lot of equipment, I guess that's why we are just trying to understand how to do this.

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        • Originally posted by ilandtan View Post
          DS didn't use a lot of equipment, I guess that's why we are just trying to understand how to do this.

          the problem with DS device is this : we never seen a running device until now ! the only one was since 1996 in a black box! so the component inside his device are unknown ... to make an inverter using the harvested power from the capacitor banks isn't easy to do, especially if the voltage is high, another problem is safety, sometimes it's a must to work very slowly when the power is lethal....

          the heart of his device is understood now but i will clarify something for you, there's two way to make the E-TBC oscillate, the method shown here isn't prefect because i am feeding this device using the electric current, the best way is to use the voltage, this imply the presence of resonance and another capacitor to kick the voltage... L2 and its load ( the capacitor banks to gather the power ) will be part from the system because they will affect the resonance in L1, here the problem! we have to find a way to solve this, i have another ideas but i don't have the good ferrite core to test it.. maybe i have to make one !

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          • Originally posted by med.3012 View Post
            the problem with DS device is this : we never seen a running device until now ! the only one was since 1996 in a black box! so the component inside his device are unknown ... to make an inverter using the harvested power from the capacitor banks isn't easy to do, especially if the voltage is high, another problem is safety, sometimes it's a must to work very slowly when the power is lethal....

            the heart of his device is understood now but i will clarify something for you, there's two way to make the E-TBC oscillate, the method shown here isn't prefect because i am feeding this device using the electric current, the best way is to use the voltage, this imply the presence of resonance and another capacitor to kick the voltage... L2 and its load ( the capacitor banks to gather the power ) will be part from the system because they will affect the resonance in L1, here the problem! we have to find a way to solve this, i have another ideas but i don't have the good ferrite core to test it.. maybe i have to make one !
            So let me understand there are two ways to cause the E-TBC to resonate, one way to directly couple, the second is loosely coupled by induction? As in from another coil? I am trying to be clear here.

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            • Originally posted by ilandtan View Post
              So let me understand there are two ways to cause the E-TBC to resonate, one way to directly couple, the second is loosely coupled by induction? As in from another coil? I am trying to be clear here.

              let's talk about this tomorrow as it's late here, there's another third way !

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              • Originally posted by ilandtan View Post
                So let me understand there are two ways to cause the E-TBC to resonate, one way to directly couple, the second is loosely coupled by induction? As in from another coil? I am trying to be clear here.


                the E-TBC have to work in full power, the easy way to do this is to open the junction CD, the virtual one dimensional capacitor will not exist in the same place where the spark gap exist, this situation will not give the intended power, when you close this junction X spin separation location will be formed correctly but we need a way to start the oscillation, in other words the capacitor inside the E-TBC have to be charged...


                in the proposed circuit we use the electric current to charge the internal capacitor of the E-TBC using the induced rotating electric field, so you have to watch the direction of current to achieve the optimal value, this mean the plus + of high voltage capacitor have to be connected to the E-TBC directly and the - to the spark plug, the charged voltage will be gathered along the E-TBC foils, more turns give a higher resistance so higher voltage can be collected to start the oscillation, i did a test with high E-TBC turns and it show the increased oscillation, high inductance in this open system will work very good this is why i need a large toroid ferrite core, you can also achieve a lesser voltage in L2 if the turns number is less than L1 ...

                we still don't know the optimal values so a lots of test have to be done, but i think we have to move to large E-TBC turns, as this will give a high resistance to collect radiant voltage.


                the second method still not tested on the E-TBC, so i am still thinking about it ...

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                • hello everyone,


                  the proposed circuit is really very simple but powerful at the same time, the problem is the obtained voltage in L2 coil have to be high enough to tell we have OE device, with a simple calculation imagine you are trying to collect 100V in your capacitors banks, another person use 1000V in his capacitors banks, the power he got will be related with voltage square say 10 X 10 = 100 times ! more power !!!!

                  the diodes must handle the voltage in L2 in order to collect the power because the negative oscillation can kill the power if not blocked ..
                  i tried to charge 4700 UF /50V capacitor without problem but as discussed the power remain low since the voltage is low ...

                  to achieve the desired voltage we can use serial capacitors, for example two 450v in serial will give 900V and the power obtained is increased 4 times, if we use 4 in serial we have 1800V and the power increased 16 times !!

                  finally if we success in building a high frequency step down transformer for this system this will be a great success since the current will be increased to any desired amount with easy ...

                  this will help in handling the voltage, with other improvement OE will be at your hand ...

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                  • the published photo that show a 100w light bulb in full bright is real, it's possible to light 3 of them, this system is extremely dangerous since the collected power is real active power, work have to be done with care, safety is the first thing to take into consideration, when short circuit the capacitors banks a very strong flash will be produced ( dangerous for eyes ), an explosion sound will be produced also ( be prepared ! ) and finally some smoke also...




                    work within a group is preferred if possible, replication is needed so other people will jump to other steps and so on ... this will minimize the time and the risk ...

                    Good night !

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                    • good job guys!

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                      • Originally posted by Wistiti View Post
                        good job guys!

                        Thanks so much !!

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                        • I thought I would share a couple of mental tidbits, while I wait for my core to ship to me so I can start having some fun.
                          1. That the DS hand drawn device in the Mohammed.pdf Med pointed to earlier looks very similar to Laserhacker 3.0 Joule Ringer
                          2. That I keep on seeing similar devices with supposedly OU that are bifilar circuits.


                          I saw in a video where the two opposing currents (from bi-filer coil) had the property of lowering the output impedance. It may be worthwhile looking at it.

                          [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXno_7xXSZs&feature=youtu.be&t=2715[/VIDEO]

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                          • Originally posted by ilandtan View Post
                            I thought I would share a couple of mental tidbits, while I wait for my core to ship to me so I can start having some fun.
                            1. That the DS hand drawn device in the Mohammed.pdf Med pointed to earlier looks very similar to Laserhacker 3.0 Joule Ringer
                            2. That I keep on seeing similar devices with supposedly OU that are bifilar circuits.


                            I saw in a video where the two opposing currents (from bi-filer coil) had the property of lowering the output impedance. It may be worthwhile looking at it.

                            [VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXno_7xXSZs&feature=youtu.be&t=2715[/VIDEO]


                            Hi !

                            Thanks for the video, i will watch this later, i just did some test by lowering the number of turns in L1 coil to 2.5 turns, the overall power in the capacitors banks decreased a lots, even the number of turn in L2 was 4 times, there's some level of inductance when the feedback inside the E-TBC start to work effectively, there's a very simple experiment you can do by feeding your L1 from A-X not from A-B the device will oscillate as normal! but if you short B-D the power will decrease.. this prove the oscillation inside this device is the source of power, it's also better to use a large toroid core for more turns, so the overall power will increase, other scenario is possible.

                            Regards

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                            • @ ilandtan

                              i know i didn't replied one question you asked me about the method DS used to feed his L1 coil, the reason why i think he used a parallel resonance is the low consumption ( maybe milliwatts!! ) .

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                              • Med,

                                When the device is driving that light bulb, do you have a guass meter to see if the magnetism has started to permeate through your surroundings?

                                Thanks!

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