Don Smith A review...

[AetherScientist]

Avramenko's plug and Cockcroft-Walton circuit.

I assumed Thomas Ferko's experiment was stepping up the voltage from the plasma ball with a kind of Cockroft-Walton array, similar to what Aether Scientist describes in his post: http://www.energeticforum.com/283380-post79.html

A cockcroft-walton step up, it's simply a group of Avramenko's plugs connected in parallel.
Check my post #79 again and see how the cockcroft-walton is a repeating AV plug again and again. I have marked in red the embedded AV plug.

There are some interesting details to study in the AV plug and specially in the C-Walton multiplier. I think the C-Walton multiplier is a kind of capacitive step-up transformer.

I am going to study a little bit and I will check this thread in some hours.


EDIT: It would be interesting trying to charge an AV plug from the output of the C-Walton step-up. Even building a single-wire version of the C-Walton step-up.

[Jeff Pearson]

I was referring to the capacitor on the smith device, not the patent. The photos of the smith device are not opposite wound coils. the patent is opposite wound coils Aether Scientist

[med.3012]

hello everyone !


actually working on joule thief circuit using the E-TBC inside it , i am studying it thoroughly so maybe it's easy to make with it a self running LED with capacitor! who know ?

[AetherScientist]

I was reading some information about all of this and I see that we don't understand almost nothing about electricity. Smith big system is not easy to replicate. First we must build dozens of simple circuits to better understand what is happening in Smith's circuits.

There are dozens of calculations and effects that people usually don't know. Trying to build the big system with classic understanding is almost an impossible task.

So guys, I want to hear you about what you think. If we want to get some useful results we must work together. There are a lot of different circuits to build and that is a very heavy work for just only one person.

[med.3012]

I was reading some information about all of this and I see that we don't understand almost nothing about electricity. Smith big system is not easy to replicate. First we must build dozens of simple circuits to better understand what is happening in Smith's circuits.

There are dozens of calculations and effects that people usually don't know. Trying to build the big system with classic understanding is almost an impossible task.

So guys, I want to hear you about what you think. If we want to get some useful results we must work together. There are a lot of different circuits to build and that is a very heavy work for just only one person.

this true and i agree with you 200% this why i am starting to think in simplicity, a simple safe circuit show an important effect but it does work as OE ( over energy ) device will be something great !

[AetherScientist]

this true and i agree with you 200% this why i am starting to think in simplicity, a simple safe circuit show an important effect but it does work as OE ( over energy ) device will be something great !

Exactly, think in simplicity without deep and strange calculations. You only need to observe nature because nature doesn't understand physic's books.

I agree with you too. There are devices that work as energy tapping devices. We are used to see circuits in an way that doesn't allow to see energy tapping. There are components that are not taught, the devices to measure parameters only show a small point of view, etc.. so it's very difficult to see anything that can give you an idea.

Even the simple bulb connected to ground (the last video I posted) was very strange because just only one person has told to me about that. No engineers, no one. And it's a circuit where you need only 1 wire (no components needed)

[med.3012]

Exactly, think in simplicity without deep and strange calculations. You only need to observe nature because nature doesn't understand physic's books.

I agree with you too. There are devices that work as energy tapping devices. We are used to see circuits in an way that doesn't allow to see energy tapping. There are components that are not taught, the devices to measure parameters only show a small point of view, etc.. so it's very difficult to see anything that can give you an idea.

Even the simple bulb connected to ground (the last video I posted) was very strange because just only one person has told to me about that. No engineers, no one. And it's a circuit where you need only 1 wire (no components needed)

when the CCW electrons meet the CW electrons a useful electric power will flow.., a simple bulb connected to ground show this requirement because you have two different states so the electrons in both side can meet each other... Don Smith show this in the capacitor discharge using only the ground, Tesla also used this kind of technique a long time ago so it's not new.

the E-TBC or the M-E-TBC ( the mixed E-TBC ) use the same principle in oscillation, in these devices we treat the electricity based on electron spin direction, so they act as a single wire has an internal capacitor ( hidden ) doing this you will work in the very small portion of electricity, it's electron spin separation mechanism.. in my point of view it's not difficult, nothing complicated here !

[ilandtan]

=AetherScientist;284310]I was reading some information about all of this and I see that we don't understand almost nothing about electricity. Smith big system is not easy to replicate. First we must build dozens of simple circuits to better understand what is happening in Smith's circuits.

About the knowing. I view it as, manipulated by direction, to primarily know about two vectors of the description of electricity. So like a magician's slight of hand, we know so little about the vectors that would accurately describe and predict Tesla Waves (Non Hertzian). We know so little about the magnetic vector. That's why I was drawn to Don Smith from my first view of his symposiums, because he bridged the understanding that there was a different rabbit to chase.

Transcribed from a Don Smith Symposium about the Plasma Globe: This diode bride which I designed myself for my plasma tube experiment. In Plasma if you have a way to measure the magnetic flux which there are number of ways; Plasma tubes put out such huge amounts energy You can't believe, so if you put in maybe 20 volts in, or 10 volts or whatever. Out of the plasma tube; It's limited, The energy coming out is maybe 50 thousands or more units of energy that's going in; So a great deal more then that actual. So if you have the way to capture the energy from the plasma tube, and practical way, and you work it down in a frequency zone where the diodes work for you, instead of against you, You can get alot of useful energy from the plasma tube.

This is my justification working on DS plasma and my intuition that plasma at higher frequency does what the sun does, and radiates. I'm want to package it, it and use it.

However look at our test gear, it's flawed. We can view amps/volts... on an oscilloscope, but we don't see the magnetic component compared to them in real time. We don't know what happens to flux speed/strength as you increase the frequency/voltage/current. Tesla knew the waves where faster than the speed of light. If so he had to build for shorter wavelengths. Imagine a scope with magnetic trace... Now I'm dreaming talkin' crazy. Prometheus

[AetherScientist]

when the CCW electrons meet the CW electrons a useful electric power will flow.., a simple bulb connected to ground show this requirement because you have two different states so the electrons in both side can meet each other... Don Smith show this in the capacitor discharge using only the ground, Tesla also used this kind of technique a long time ago so it's not new.

the E-TBC or the M-E-TBC ( the mixed E-TBC ) use the same principle in oscillation, in these devices we treat the electricity based on electron spin direction, so they act as a single wire has an internal capacitor ( hidden ) doing this you will work in the very small portion of electricity, it's electron spin separation mechanism.. in my point of view it's not difficult, nothing complicated here !

I agree with you. I think to produce useful electricity you need CCW and CW electrons. I have observed another phenomena where CCW and CW are involved in a different way. For example, there is a phenomena where you can charge capacitors using only electric energy (remember about what I was talking about using the car's ignition coil + AV plug), and there is other phenomena where you can charge capacitors using electric+magnetic energy. I see electric energy as a rectified specific magnetic field. Floyd Sweet said once that when you cancel the electric field you have a magnetic field and when you cancel a magnetic field then you have an electric field.

In background energy the electrons are not separated. They are CCW + CW at the same time. When you excite the background energy then that energy is differentiated (CCW OR CW). You can build antennas to absorb that energy and produce useful power.

A magnet, for example, is an antenna. There is also the electric equivalent (electrical "magnet") called the electret.

Don Smith show this in the capacitor discharge using only the ground

Do you remember the exact source of information?

[AetherScientist]

About the knowing. I view it as, manipulated by direction, to primarily know about two vectors of the description of electricity. So like a magician's slight of hand, we know so little about the vectors that would accurately describe and predict Tesla Waves (Non Hertzian). We know so little about the magnetic vector. That's why I was drawn to Don Smith from my first view of his symposiums, because he bridged the understanding that there was a different rabbit to chase.

Of course, after hearing Smith's symposiums one can start to think in a specific way.

I have read several times about vectors but I don't know what are you refering to.
Do you refer to the electric vector and magnetic vector? I would like to know more about that.

[ilandtan]

Of course, after hearing Smith's symposiums one can start to think in a specific way.

I have read several times about vectors but I don't know what are you referring to.
Do you refer to the electric vector and magnetic vector? I would like to know more about that.

I'm sorry AS, I am beyond my depth, and used the word vector, because I wanted to show that this unspecified radiant energy that has magnetic force properties that can be amplified, has a relative position against AMP/VOLT, with a direction. I am starting to believe that if it is said that electro-magnetic description is that magnetic waves are 90 degrees from current flow, that in itself, it's just not enough, because it suggests we are to assume that it behaves just like AMPs/VOLTS.

I've seen references to "negentropy":Shrodinger, and "reverse time tachion currents (Kapa)":Combine, all trying describe the same idea of a radiant energy that electrically moves against current, and radiated. So I used the word vector because I can have a different direction, a different end point. If it can transmit through a farady cage, it has to be different.

[med.3012]

hello AetherScientist

this is another video of DS please see at 53 min



[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu5qn82c88I[/VIDEO]

[AetherScientist]

hello AetherScientist

this is another video of DS please see at 53 min

Hello and thank you very much for the video.
I performed that experiment without connecting anything to the ground. In the receiving plate I connected a wire to feed an AV plug and it workes as good as usual.

Some in the video (about 55 min) explains about using pulsed DC electricity to perform the same experiment and he explains that it's possible to connect a load between the receiving plate and the ground (something similar like the video of the girl connecting the bulb to the earth's ground).

One of the most interesting questions is if the one-wire electricity consume watts. It seems that it doesn't because for consuming watts you need 2 wires instead of just only one wire. In that schematic it consumes energy because you need 2 wires to transform then into 1 wire. But 1 wire directly seems that it doesn't consume watts

One interesting tests would be to use a battery and connect it to an inverter and use 1 wire and ground to power a bulb and check if there is any difference in power consumption while using or not using the bulb connected to ground. This would be as easy as to connect an amperage and voltage meter between the battery and the inverter.

[AetherScientist]

[ilandtan]

hello AetherScientist

this is another video of DS please see at 53 min

This is one of the first Videos I saw too. I just want to point out. That there is no obvious resonance component here.

You simply have Battery > DC Pulse HV Exciter Source > Spark > Anode Plate > Dielectric > Cathode Plate > Spark > Earth Ground.

But I think the exciter wand can be considered a tesla coil device at 8KV?
The main question is how do you drive a 3HP Motor at above 3K RPMs at 20ma (8KV*.02A = 160VA)? When it should take about 1700 Watts (Estimated by 3 HP SPL 3450 RPM U56 Frame 115/230V Air Compressor Motor - Century # B383)?

This is what I'm saying, the work here is the harvest side. Even with the plate setup, they are claiming an order of magnitude power gain, for a load between spark and Earth Ground. NO messing with resonant coupling!