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  • Hello again.

    I have been reading some DS documents I read some years ago. I have extracted some useful information from the documents. I have read them again because the last time I read them was around 4 years ago.

    I have a list with lots of experiments to perform to better understand the electric phenomena. Maybe more than 50 experiments.

    There is a bad understanding about how electricity really works. It's normal that it's hard to replicate DS system. Lots of details that are usually unknown.

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    • Originally posted by njones308 View Post
      I only have a minute to post so I apologize for the short post. I want to join in this adventure with you guys on this replication project. I have built an E-TBC. I will attach a couple pics of my setup and see what you guys think. I am looking forward to working with you guys.


      nice setup and welcome! just to add something important here, the E-TBC when oscillate work as a separated coil, you have an internal capacitor but it's not like normal capacitor because it's already shorted, for other details please read my thread here :

      http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...lained-16.html

      so we are dealing with electrons spin as two faces for the same unique particles which called electron, CCW winding or CW winding in your secondary isn't responsible for the creation of voltage or current, in DS setup it's a kind of equilibrium between L1 AND L2 in other hand using ccw and cw in L2 you need only two diodes instead of 4 to create the bridge ...


      back again to the idea of separated coil, the problem faced in air coil system is how to maintain the oscillation because we don't have a real current, using a ferromagnetic material could bypass this problem, magneto-restrictive is better but still not tested by me, i only have a ferrite cores, with more inductance this operation can be done more effective, your high voltage module have to work in harmony with your L1 so an effective power transfer will lead to minimal power consumption!

      good luck

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      • In some experiments I have performed I have measured 5 amperes in the air with a clamp meter (no wire inside the clamp meter).

        That was using 230 Volts AC at 50 CPS. Imagine about thousands of volts at kilohertz. Maybe thousands of amperes in the ambient?

        I placed a magnet near the experiment and it started to shake strongly.

        The interesting part is that it seems that the generation of that strong magnetic field does not consume watts. I haven't checked with a device to measure the input because I don't have one. But some people that have measured the input in similar configuration have measured zero watts.
        Last edited by AetherScientist; 03-04-2016, 09:28 PM.

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        • Originally posted by AetherScientist View Post
          In some experiments I have performed I have measured 5 amperes in the air with a clamp meter (no wire inside the clamp meter).

          That was using 230 Volts AC at 50 CPS. Imagine about thousands of volts at kilohertz. Maybe thousands of amperes in the ambient?

          I placed a magnet near the experiment and it started to shake strongly.

          The interesting part is that it seems that the generation of that strong magnetic field does not consume watts. I haven't checked with a device to measure the input because I don't have one. But some people that have measured the input in similar configuration have measured zero watts.

          the problem is always the energy balance the same electrons that give the voltage can give the current !!! high current low voltage isn't what we need, high voltage low current is useless also, it's not only the magnetic flux but the electromagnetic flux is what we need.


          i did some test with the ETBC in a ferrite ring ( TV YOKE) the input was 0.5A 10V trying to charge a capacitor of 100UF/450V in 5 second to light a 40W, the capacitor charge very quickly almost instantly to achieve 100V from 100 to 200 V the charging speed is slow, above 200V is very very slow, a shorted coil around the ETBC enhance this region but break the first region!

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          • a good presentation shared by a friend show other technique.


            https://prezi.com/dp7j0ydwqmu-/don-smith-bucking-coil/

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            • Could this work?

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              • Originally posted by med.3012 View Post
                the problem is always the energy balance the same electrons that give the voltage can give the current !!! high current low voltage isn't what we need, high voltage low current is useless also, it's not only the magnetic flux but the electromagnetic flux is what we need.


                i did some test with the ETBC in a ferrite ring ( TV YOKE) the input was 0.5A 10V trying to charge a capacitor of 100UF/450V in 5 second to light a 40W, the capacitor charge very quickly almost instantly to achieve 100V from 100 to 200 V the charging speed is slow, above 200V is very very slow, a shorted coil around the ETBC enhance this region but break the first region!
                It's impossible to get electromagnetic field from the ambient because there is not electromagnetic field in the ambient.

                Voltage in this circuit is not important. From the ambient it's possible to absorb pure amperage.

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                • Originally posted by med.3012 View Post
                  a good presentation shared by a friend show other technique.


                  https://prezi.com/dp7j0ydwqmu-/don-smith-bucking-coil/
                  Chris Skyes... he has done some very useful works.

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                  • I'm seeing there are some DS documents I have never seen before.
                    Not just only one, but more than one.

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                    • Originally posted by AetherScientist View Post
                      It's impossible to get electromagnetic field from the ambient because there is not electromagnetic field in the ambient.

                      Voltage in this circuit is not important. From the ambient it's possible to absorb pure amperage.


                      it's better not to mix the things up, magnetism or electricity has the same origin, if the charge is static and you are moving electromagnetic field will be present, if the charge move and you are in static position you will see the same dynamic field, electromagnetism mean you have a magnetism that move, the same moving electric charge do the same, finally both must be present in alternating current, this is why we use the terms impedance reactance, inductance etc just for distinction between electric and magnetic phenomena ! this also why we have something called resonance.

                      the ambient is the source of everything, it's not a static power, but as TESLA stated it's a dynamic, when we shake it we have the power as electromagnetic flux , the ETBC work directly with this ambient power because it has both magnetism and electricity combined together.

                      pure amperage exist already in the earth grounding or air grounding, the best way to take it is to absorb both magnetism and electricity together here and only here you have watts !

                      i still didn't studied the material i posted here as it late i have to bed


                      good night !
                      Last edited by med.3012; 03-04-2016, 11:29 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by med.3012 View Post
                        it's better not to mix the things up, magnetism or electricity has the same origin, if the charge is static and you are moving electromagnetic field will be present, if the charge move and you are in static position you will see the same dynamic field, electromagnetism mean you have a magnetism that move, the same moving electric charge do the same, finally both must be present in alternating current, this is why we use the terms impedance reactance, inductance etc just for distinction between electric and magnetic phenomena ! this also why we have something called resonance.

                        the ambient is the source of everything, it's not a static power, but as TESLA stated it's a dynamic, when we shake it we have the power as electromagnetic flux , the ETBC work directly with this ambient power because it has both magnetism and electricity combined together.

                        pure amperage exist already in the earth grounding or air grounding, the best way to take it is to absorb both magnetism and electricity together here and only here you have watts !

                        i still didn't studied the material i posted here as it late i have to bed


                        good night !
                        Let me know if you have the material because I'm searching in the net and I cannot find it.

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                        • I have read again and again the description and I understand what DS means.

                          It's exactly the same that he shows in the videos about using a single wire in one part of the capacitor and getting a copy in the other part of the capacitor plate. I have replicated that experiment and it works.

                          I was confused because I thought that DS was speaking about a different approach.

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                          • The next step is to research how is possible to produce displacemente current in the input part of the capacitor WITHOUT consuming watts. Because if the circuit consumes watts to feed the capacitor, then you can extract energy from the output side of the capacitor, but you don't have energy gain because maybe you're extracting as much energy as you use to feed the first capacitor plate.

                            But... if you use zero watts to produce displacement current in the first capacitor plate then you're not consuming watts in the first capacitor plate. But you can extract watts from the second capacitor plate.

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                            • EDIT:
                              I mean that I don't know if the drawing is the explanation of the text or not.
                              I have drawn that schematic because I think the text is refering to that configuration. But the question remains.. Is correct or not?
                              Last edited by AetherScientist; 03-05-2016, 01:31 PM.

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                              • What about the input diode in the ambient input part?
                                Whede do I connect the diode? To the air???

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