Don't Kill Dipole

[Shamus]

Hi Corrie! I'm sure it would be no surprise to you that the research that we do is searching for that which is already known (re-search: literally, to search again). Even if those who are hiding this information keep tight wraps on it, it's all still in the collective unconscious and can probably be retrieved via TRV (technical remote viewing).

Sorry if this seems off-topic; I can't help but think that the technology that we are given is the oldest, most obsolete cast-offs from those who imagine themselves our masters. I have a gut feeling that most "impossible" things have already been done, and long, long ago at that.

[Jbignes5]

I guess the question is then?

Yes I will try determining the best conditions to achieve the effect..

here some of the background behind my theory

YouTube - electrostatic induction

Static electricity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What causes inductive charging. That is where my theory picks up. I believe if we know the mechanics of exchange of charge or induction then we can figure out anything in nature. We could even figure out anything that we could devise in our devices from this theory.

There has to be a conductor of potential then that is dielectric based. This allows the separation of potential and discharge conditions so that static electricity can be allowed to effect a movement but not discharge the source. This field that everyone talks about has to have a medium to move in. I believe Tesla was the first to discover that it was possible to move the medium in such a way that it could effect a precisely tuned unit to receive a surplus charge from that movement. The problem is that was the early discovery and as Tesla figured out one didn't need to broadcast this disruption of the medium. One only needed to disrupt it locally and receive it locally. He learned this shortly after Wardencliff and perfected it when he did the Pierce Arrow experiment. In other words he found the source of all movement in our space and also found a way to harness that most fundamental process to attract the energy to run his devices.

[vertuso]

Interesting discussion. I am a college-trained electrical engineer (don't do it for a living and it was a long time ago), and I see a lot of misunderstanding on this thread, but I am intrigued. I watched all of the Egypt videos and I must say, there are indeed some mysteries that need to be investigated.

I too am a great fan of proving your concepts through demonstration of a device but I don't think anyone has built such a device based on my reading of this thread so far. As an "electrical guy" I would be willing to help build something that shows the concepts.

I guess my big question is where does the "external energy" come from? The first law of thermodynamics says that energy cannot be created or destroyed (assuming there is no conversion of energy to matter or vise-versa, ie. nuclear energy or fusion), so where is the source energy coming from?

[Farmhand]

Hello vertuso, Welcome, The energy we seek to once again have full use of, comes from the "Active Vacuum" or the "Eather", I recommend reading at least the introduction of Aarons book "The Quantum Key" he explains it quite well, it's facinating stuff but it is difficult to visualise or explain. Thats a very good place to get a quick understanding.

Regards
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I can't find where I read Aarons basic explaination or theory of this. Or i would link it. About the Eather. Maybe he or someone else can help, he would be very busy himself.

[quantumuppercut]

Interesting discussion. I am a college-trained electrical engineer (don't do it for a living and it was a long time ago), and I see a lot of misunderstanding on this thread, but I am intrigued. I watched all of the Egypt videos and I must say, there are indeed some mysteries that need to be investigated.

I too am a great fan of proving your concepts through demonstration of a device but I don't think anyone has built such a device based on my reading of this thread so far. As an "electrical guy" I would be willing to help build something that shows the concepts.

I guess my big question is where does the "external energy" come from? The first law of thermodynamics says that energy cannot be created or destroyed (assuming there is no conversion of energy to matter or vise-versa, ie. nuclear energy or fusion), so where is the source energy coming from?

I'm still working on the details of my conclusion but here is mine
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post111515

[Farmhand]

Yes excelent.

Ether theory

Pretty much it, the pdf links to the right of the page my link leads you to are quite involved, and I have not personally read those PDF's, yet. You should get the picture.

Your views on this matter would be very welcome.

Regards

[Farmhand]

Side effects, pre effects or co effects of lightning ?

Hehe, I know we've probably all seen this before, but in this slow motion lightning strike, (9000 frames in one second makes the vid) I see what looks like streamers appearing from nowhere and leaping into the lightning bolts themseves. I think even at 9000 frames per second because of the speed of the streamers is very fast, I think we actually see a blurred object or form of energy, because of it's speed it still appears to be a long "streamer" even when photographed with a shutterspeed that quick. I may be wrong but thats what I see I think.

YouTube - Slow Motion Video of a Multiple Tower Upward Lightning Flash on 6/16/10

It's probably nothing more than another demonstration of Awesomeness by Nature

[Farmhand]

3. General properties of ether (vacuum)
Modern researchers interpret a physical, homogeneous continual medium (gas, liquid,
solid) as matter, filling space uniformly and three-dimensionally and possessing an ability to
transmit perturbations (oscillations) with steady speed. The properties of a medium define the
perturbations propagation velocity in it. Continual media possessing essentially different
expedients of perturbations transmission are known. One of them is noted for by transmitting
perturbations along the line coincident with the direction of propagation. Another type of
medium is capable to transmit perturbations with the vector of displacement in the direction
of the propagation and with the vector of displacement oriented along the normal line to the
direction of propagation. There is the third type of medium, in which the displacements
happen in mutually orthogonal to each other orientations and to the direction of propagation.
The first medium represents gas (liquid), the second - a solid body. The properties of the
medium of the third type - ether (vacuum) - have not been fully determined so far. It is
known, that ether is characterized by physical constants: velocity of waves propagation,
dielectric constant and magnetic conductivity.

This explanation from the document I linked above seems to be in accordance with some of my other findings.

[sebosfato]

As far as nature has the intelligence of arranging atoms together and our universe is in constant expansion we are not limited to convert one energy form on another but we can indeed use energy density or accumulated as potential to self create energy. Like, energy attracts more energy.

[Jbignes5]

Perfect example of my theory.

Hehe, I know we've probably all seen this before, but in this slow motion lightning strike, (9000 frames in one second makes the vid) I see what looks like streamers appearing from nowhere and leaping into the lightning bolts themseves. I think even at 9000 frames per second because of the speed of the streamers is very fast, I think we actually see a blurred object or form of energy, because of it's speed it still appears to be a long "streamer" even when photographed with a shutterspeed that quick. I may be wrong but thats what I see I think.

YouTube - Slow Motion Video of a Multiple Tower Upward Lightning Flash on 6/16/10

It's probably nothing more than another demonstration of Awesomeness by Nature

The network responsible for the main connection of lightning and the remaining discharges flowing in the virtual network back twords the source. This was the results that I have seen in corona discharges as well in super slow motion. SO the initial setup of the network is to form a connection to the source and if the target connects it will discharge into the source as seen by the streamers all pointing to the main network trunk. The energy is not transfered entirely to the source but is radiated away in a lot of forms including heat and light.
This is just one example of the concept I an describing. There are a great many forms of this natural balance mechanism. I think all weather can be explained through this method but there are a great many effects with different setups. Change the density of the network and you get tornado's and change it again and add humidity and you get a hurricane. This is all purely potential at this moment as the network forms a higher density. The moment light gets emitted the network becomes overloaded and radiates all kinds of effects as it travels at a higher speed twords the source. This is entirely based on a charge being the force here. They are attracted to the potential difference and flow twords the source on the now energized pathway that was formed by the potential difference between the ground and clouds.

Lets now search for a super slow motion of a corona discharge and we should see the same effect going on there.

Here is an interesting video from MIT explaining the effects of lightning and static discharges like corona..

MIT OpenCourseWare | Physics | 8.02 Electricity and Magnetism, Spring 2002 | Video Lectures | Lecture 6: High-Voltage Breakdown and Lightning

[Farmhand]

Hi Jbignes5, I'm backtracking this thread now, I hope to be up to a point where I will sit the lecture above tonight, soon. Stuck on the transformer modeling. Don't wait for me.

[Jbignes5]

We all move at different rates.

Hi Jbignes5, I'm backtracking this thread now, I hope to be up to a point where I will sit the lecture above tonight, soon. Stuck on the transformer modeling. Don't wait for me.

Yeah I suck up information like it was candy lol.. My posts will still be there so.. The lecture I showed is actually what they teach at MIT. It is a little long in the tooth for length but it is a good watch either way. You don't need to watch the whole thing if you don't want to. It was just further back ground for the lightning that was shown. It helps to know a little about the area you are showing and this is my way of saying this is the other side to the coin.

This professor is probably my favorite teacher of all time.

[Farmhand]

Yes I wish I had had a teacher like him. Very informative. I had a feeling there would be a three and some zero's in there. It seems there could be a few designs for a working Pyramid. And that transformer modeling I didn't understand much of the numbers there or the words really, but the pics were good, i'm not a numbers person but the guy in the vid made it seem very simple. No real need for the numbers. Thanks for the video.

[Farmhand]

I am a little confused as to how it come to pass that I have not before become aware of the SIDAC Device. No matter now I can continue.

[Farmhand]

This seems very interesting fig 17 and usefull. It may have already been mentioned if so sorry.

"Experiments with Alternate Currents of High Potential and High Frequency"

To demonstrate a novel and interesting feature, I have, for a reason which I will explain, selected this type of motor. When the ends of the coil are connected to the terminals of an alternator the disc is set in rotation. But it is not this experiment, now well known, which I desire to perform. What I wish to show you is that this motor rotates with one single connection between it and the generator; that is to say, one terminal of the motor is connected to one terminal of the generator—in this case the secondary of a high-tension induction coil—the other terminals of motor and generator being insulated in space. To produce rotation it is generally (but not absolutely) necessary to connect the free end of the motor coil to an insulated body of some size. The experimenter's body is more than sufficient. If he touches the free terminal with an object held in the hand, a current passes through the coil and the copper disc is set in rotation. If an exhausted tube is put in series with the coil, the tube lights brilliantly, showing the passage of a strong current. Instead of the experimenter's body, a small metal sheet suspended on a cord may be used with the same result. In this case the plate acts as a condenser in series with the coil. It counteracts the self-induction of the latter and allows a strong current to pass. In such a combination, the greater the self-induction of the coil the smaller need be the plate, and this means that a lower frequency, or eventually a lower potential, is required to operate the motor. A single coil wound upon a core has a high self-induction; for this reason principally, this type of motor was chosen to perform the experiment. Were a secondary closed coil wound upon the core, it would tend to diminish the self-induction, and then it would be necessary to employ a much higher frequency and potential. Neither would be advisable, for a higher potential would endanger the insulation of the small primary coil, and a higher frequency would result in a materially diminished torque.

Hmmm