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  • I want to help you

    Hi Jbignes5,

    I want to help you any way I can to get this word out. Many people haven't made all the connections that you have made for whatever reason. You have spent a very long time reading and studying the material and I think that has given you a very strong edge over most of us. Thanks again for all you have shared and for being their to help guide us over the bumps.

    Best Regards,
    Slovenia


    Originally posted by Jbignes5 View Post
    This is why I am so frustrated. The concepts that I present are actually very easy to see. We are the ones who complicates things with complicated math and laws that are designed to only work with our invention of electricity. Nature has no such problems. Nature on the smallest scale is so simple to understand because that is how it operates. With few laws everything is possible in our universe. Some of the laws are what I call the basic design and others are modifications like masses. When the network gets stacked in such a way to form masses it adds other laws on top of it. You could think of it as like an onion with layers. the fundamental laws define the network and then everything else is according to scale from that point. Change the scale and it modifies those fundamental laws to include grouping and amplification effects of masses. Cycles is a part of the most fundamental laws though because that is what defines a charge and how it could be considered never ending.

    The only math that I needed was very basic math. Thats all. Even geometry is considered very basic form of math to describe the relationship of two or more points to each other when connected together.

    Fractals are the only thing that is entirely complicated in this whole system. It's subtle hints are buried all around nature. Especially when you start looking at the smallest of what we can see currently or even the largest in the case of our space. We know little of this energy because ever since the beginning we refused to see nature or the natural process as being entirely different and I assure you it is very different then any form of electricity we have except for statics. And to tell you the truth statics was shunned from our science they think it is transitional energy that is unwanted or unusable. The thing is that statics is very very important to the natural processes even our own bodies use statics to maintain and grow with.

    Science has done nothing but tell us it is impossible. That there is no such thing as free, not used, energy available to harness. If this was the case then nothing would work outside of our space and we all know this is not true.

    What got me thinking along these lines is that even though ancient man didn't have the technical wording for it they understood the natural process because it is simplistic in nature. They could use it because it does not take a super genius to understand this concept. Only a mere connection to the natural world would allow one to see how it operates and I think we would agree that even a primitive man could see that the tree was on fire. That was their proof and thats how simple it can be. They didn't need complicated math to tell them it was or wasn't possible. They saw and experimented with it.

    P.S. Got my supply of B12 today. I have started the regiment and time will tell if my self diagnosis was right. Cheers!

    Talk to you later,
    jbignes5

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    • Video May Be Applicable

      I was told this video shows splitting the positive.

      YouTube - TROS - "bemf"

      This video link was supplied to me by a friend.

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      • I think this circuit is just a standard voltage booster.
        It can light up the bulbs brighter, at the expense of higher current draw from the battery.
        Usually, there is a diode between the collector of the transistor and the capacitor, but not absolutely necessary.

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        • Thanks

          Thanks Altair.

          Originally posted by Altair View Post
          I think this circuit is just a standard voltage booster.
          It can light up the bulbs brighter, at the expense of higher current draw from the battery.
          Usually, there is a diode between the collector of the transistor and the capacitor, but not absolutely necessary.

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          • "Video May Be Applicable" I don't understand how it could be splitting the positive but it certainly is interesting. It's simple enough to put one together and test it.

            I've been tossing around ideas relating to Jbigness's description of the HV source, diode, antenna, load, antenna then to a plate or mass. Once this little motor is completed I'm hoping to be able to use it as a tool to experiment with some of the tesla and kacher coils I have. I tend to be more visual in creating things so the electric phenomena tends to be a little more difficult for me. If I can see the outcome then I can relate to what it's doing better.
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            • Thanks

              Hi Dragon,

              Thanks for your input on this too. Things are getting clearer for me, but I still haven't connected the dots yet. One of these days it will all come into view all at once for me I hope. I'm eager to start building something, but I don't want to jump the gun. I want to have something that works when I'm done.

              Best Regards,
              Slovenia

              Originally posted by dragon View Post
              "Video May Be Applicable" I don't understand how it could be splitting the positive but it certainly is interesting. It's simple enough to put one together and test it.

              I've been tossing around ideas relating to Jbigness's description of the HV source, diode, antenna, load, antenna then to a plate or mass. Once this little motor is completed I'm hoping to be able to use it as a tool to experiment with some of the tesla and kacher coils I have. I tend to be more visual in creating things so the electric phenomena tends to be a little more difficult for me. If I can see the outcome then I can relate to what it's doing better.

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              • I don't really know either, it seems to me - at least trying to dredge through all this info - that splitting the positive might be something like taking the output from the positive, boosting voltage, through a load and running it back into the positive. In a sense that circuit does this at least in part through the base and resistor. I built a JT circuit, similar, that instead of running the LED to the ground as you normally would I ran several LED's back to the pos side of the coil. Basically running more LED's with less input current requirement. Some of what is used is "recycled" to some degree. If I'm off course with this analogy, someone please set me straight !!!

                I think the only way we are going to "crack the code" is to build and fail a few times... each failure brings new knowledge and hopefully closer to the final intended goal. If we build it and it works the first time we may not know why...
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                Last edited by dragon; 05-11-2011, 10:51 AM.

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                • Very Good Points

                  You make very good points.

                  Originally posted by dragon View Post
                  I don't really know either, it seems to me - at least trying to dredge through all this info - that splitting the positive might be something like taking the output from the positive, boosting voltage, through a load and running it back into the positive. In a sense that circuit does this at least in part through the base and resistor. I built a JT circuit, similar, that instead of running the LED to the ground as you normally would I ran several LED's back to the pos side of the coil. Basically running more LED's with less input current requirement. Some of what is used is "recycled" to some degree. If I'm off course with this analogy, someone please set me straight !!!

                  I think the only way we are going to "crack the code" is to build and fail a few times... each failure brings new knowledge and hopefully closer to the final intended goal. If we build it and it works the first time we may not know why...

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                  • Tesla Hair Pin Circuit

                    TanTric has a great thread on the Tesla Hairpin circuit, that might be applicable to what we are doing. He's seeing some very interesting results. Check out the following link:

                    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ld-energy.html

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                    • Tesla's little box (Pierce Arrow)

                      Jbignes5 has another great thread that might have some information applicable to our thread. Check out the following link:

                      http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...e-arrow-3.html

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                      • NASA FE Device (Maybe)

                        There was a fellow posting online approximately nine months ago claiming to be a gravely ill ex NASA scientist. He said that NASA had many free energy devices and he had decided to release all the information from his website. His website was taken down approximately a week or so after I saw his advertisement. But, he briefly touched on one device which sounded very similar to what Jbignes5 has been talking about. He showed a picture of one device in his office that he claimed provided all his electricity at his home and lab off grid. He said that the device was comprised of a VanDerGraff generator and a large Tesla coil. The Tesla coil he showed was approximately two feet high from the picture he provided.

                        He said the device was fairly easy to manufacture and that there was nothing complex about it. He didn't give any information on how to build it though, because you had to purchase a subscription to his website to access that information from his archives.

                        I am just trying to share the concept here and nothing else, since I don't know who the guy was and/or if he was really what he claimed to be. Thanks.

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                        • Here is my take on this subject.

                          If you have someone selling a free energy concept then it can not be that true. They are only trying to feed off our thirst for knowledge in this area. A snake oils salesman comes to mind. I have and never will charge for anything that I have discussed. Others might say well I have to eat well they do and they should support themselves through regular means and stop trying to make a buck off this community. Everything that I share on this forum is put into the Public Domain. No one can say they Authored these Ideas because they are a combination of a great many people and sources. We are talking about the fundamental interchange of the medium of space. How can you own that to sell. That would be like copy writing the process behind the sun.

                          Thank you to all who are concerned about me. I am doing much better both coming off a cold and fighting a battle with my body b12 deficiency. I bought a rather good supply of complete b formula. Folic acid and both b12 and b6 are in good quantities. I am truely feeling better only after a few days on it.

                          So onto more information to think about.

                          Splitting the positive is just that. How many components does electricity have? 2 so far in my honest opinion. One of potential and one of movement. The potential part is self explanatory Potential=Voltage, Movement=Current. Well this also can be look at like real components as well. Where Voltage(potential)=static. Static=potential on a surface area. So it could be construed that the conductor of static potential has a more solid appearance because there isn't much room for real charges. In order for static to form you need a solid conductor that has multiple faces. This is how the static forms on the surface and how that particle has the ability to share charges from all sides.

                          Movement needs a carrier at that point. Something with a lot of space to hold or shelter real charges (eddies or chains of conductors of a smaller size locked into a cycle of never ending movement). These charges are not static. They are dynamic meaning they can accept and release smaller vehicles, locked into a chain of perpetual movement. You have to realize not much get in the way of these smaller then small particles of crytaline vehicles. But even as I say thats the smallest that would only mean the smallest we could measure. This is a fractal folks. It goes on forever for as small as we can see changes the process would still be the same at any level down the fractal. As we go out from the fractal thats when we get fractal errors and deviation in the fractal get modified. Other rules would govern densities and how one effects the other.

                          Also Bear in mind that Movement must have a medium... A boat could not sail without the water Although that is a 2d relationship and not 3d. Meaning the boat rides the density change. It is what gives it boyancy. If we start thinking about this one would understand that the medium of water is the perfect solution to movement on the smallest scale. I am designing an experiment with a pyramid designed much like the Sierpinski triangle. I want to design a simulation environment on the computer to model these particles and how they would react to movement based off my visions. A picture say a thousand words and this would only make it easier to understand. My next agenda would be to expand the simulation to massive dimensions and see what happens when you put matter in there as well. I bet it would be most interesting what would happen. Once I get that I will know for sure if this explains it all. It will then be proof enough for me to build a device to accurately mimic the natural process without harming that natural balance.

                          In the mean time others like yourselves will be learning and designing experiments and devices to prove it to themselves. This also helps us in the long run.

                          Ok back to movement. If the medium is just smaller pyramids then we can see how it could line up potentials without shorting that potential out. All of the real structures at this scale are made of a crystaline material. Even the medium is this same crystaline dielectric material. What happens when you rub amber with wool? How about one crystal striking another? Well the particles that are bigger stay charged because of all the rubbing or bumping of the finer medium against the surface area of the larger particle as it moves. So whatever that started this whole thing going was the initial motivator. At the scale we are talking, not much resists the movement of these particles because of their shape. So we have a mobile structure capable of sustaining its own inertia through a self generating static potential as it moves. Also the larger particles affect the smaller ones of the medium and a finger as I like to call them protrude out and seek other potentials to hook to. This is the network I refer to. Yes one charge can influence the other if they are connected to the network and that charge also can give itself motion through the connection. The fingers are by no means inflexable and they can act like muscles in the human body depending on their dynamic density.

                          Now remember that matter is usually neutral at these scales. It is and reacts the same way as a metal pot next to a static machine. It charges the surface of the matter and can attract it to a degree twords that potential. This is the process of forming an atom. Mater in my opinion at that point is flaky. This comes from the realization of how this much varied of sized crystals formed.

                          If we take the black hole Theory and apply it to the formation of this space one can see how this all works. In the beginning it was dark. Why? Because it was solid. We should be inside a black holes mater. The core. When black holes form the roll up mater and squeeze out all the charges and fling it away. This is the stream that we see coming out of the event horizon. This rolling up of mater is like squeezing toothpaste from the tube. When the black hole became the biggest thing we could ever imagine it broke Planks distance and created abnormal crystals to grow in one of the layers of the mater that was previously processed. This created a layer to form that way conducive to forming two like poles of a magnet. The layer unzipped and just like holding to magnetic poles of a magnet together they flung apart. When this unzipping of that layer happen many layers of the new crytaline material shattered into all kinds of scales or sizes. With the most largest being what we are seeing now as black holes.

                          Now when the great unzipping happened it created our space full of broken perfect crystals of dielectric material. This material is dielectric because no charges can be contained in the matter of the crystals. It does have a structure that it copies from the smallest part of that structure and that structure can contain charges but only to carry them. It self organizes it structure based off of geometric fractal diffusion.

                          Ok now our space. When the unzipping happened as the edges pushed away from itself it created a vacuum filled with these crystals and what was left of the rolled up mater. As time went by the massive energy was very even and very energetic. After awhile that matter brought organization to the energetic medium and caused condensation of the charges that were everywhere on that matter and creating division and more condensing of the energetic medium. This was the cooling down period of our space. As matter became real or clumped it gained mass and it was neutral but attracted to the charges. They form leyden jars that are virtually enclosed by matter. The center being the charge well and the exterior being open to the medium. It conveys it's potential to the outside via the finer dielectric medium that it swims in. These create virtual fingers that is planar to the radiating(static law) charge core. All matter has these fingers no mater if we can see them or not (corona like).

                          Matter and resonance is quite the interesting subject. All resonance is is a fluttering of the matters shell allowing the inner charge an ability to help in the conduction of that matter. There is also a normal fluttering of this shell and that is the frequency of that matter. This also is what gives it it's color as well. It's resonant frequency in the ambient environment reflect only that frequency of light and thats what allows us to see the color or intercept that color frequency. We can all agree that like waves tend to group right? harmonic convergence is a good field to look at. This is also what tends to group likewise atoms to bunch up and form gross matter.

                          *Note* I'll have to edit this and figure out the proper usage of the words mater and matter*

                          Got to go for a bit.
                          Last edited by Jbignes5; 10-13-2010, 02:43 PM.

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                          • As soon as I think I've learned something... I realize how ignorant I really am... that's going to take a few reads for something to sink in....

                            It helped to give some insight on the question I asked earlier on pyramids...

                            Another bit of investigating was on Triboelectric Series for creating static charges and the best materials for doing this. Here is a site that helps put things into perspective The TriboElectric Series

                            I have to cut some parts out today so I figured I'd add the pyramid into the process. Unfortunately, all I have is steel at the moment so hopefully it won't have any adverse effects using that material. I figured it would be a good start in looking for any effects that might occur from it. I'll post a picture of it when it's built...
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                            Last edited by dragon; 05-11-2011, 10:52 AM.

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                            • Not ignorant but....

                              MISLED! We are too arrogant to admit that we could have been wrong this whole time. By we I mean the establishment. There are whole industries based off of the mistakes or errors in judgement and they rely on the fact that they have the facts. Well based off what they know they indeed have the facts as it applies to that industry. They then apply those facts to the area of everything else and then are confused when it doesn't fit correctly. In fact after the confusion sets in they shun it because it makes their own facts not so fact based. They will never admit that they are wrong about this because that would loosen the grip that they have on us.

                              You are not in fact ignorant but deceived into thinking that you are. It would be ignorance if you chose to ignore the truth once presented to you and I do not see that from anyone that is open to my discoveries.

                              Re education is a hard process because we become complacent in the fact that what we thought we knew was correct in every instance and we relied on that notion.

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                              • I believe.

                                We have had the device all along. I believe that name for the device is the Testatika device.

                                PowerPedia:Testatika - PESWiki

                                This device is what I have been describing and is the reason I decided to try and rebuild the box Tesla used in the Pierce Arrow experiment. Although I believe the static device was a new invention made by R.J Van Der Graaff and which Tesla investigated and used in this experiment It would seem to me that even with a load that it would not effect the turning of the machine. Meaning since it generates a pure static potential that there is no back talk with much force. That means that the only limiting factor of this device to provide power is the ability to maintain the potential above ambient levels. With higher peeks of potential having a higher ability to pull charges twords the source or vacuum. So I think they got away with it because it doesn't effect the input much, not like a normal motor does.

                                This avenue will be my first aim in proving this theory. The device that I am mentioning will be this one as the source charge.

                                METHOD OF AND APPARATUS FOR ELEC - Google Patent Search

                                If I need an ac application I'll add the motorized variable capacitor plates to oscillate the potential back and forth and then use a tap before the oscillator to get pure dc charge hopefully. I am still in the process of designing it out so I have little in the ways of flow charting the system. I will also need a Vacuum pump to keep the source under control so that will be added in there somewhere.

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