Don't Kill Dipole

[crackahcrackah]

Hi Jbignes5,

With all due respect if you know the answers to our questions please post them on this thread. We are looking for working circuits here. Something that we can build and have a proof of concept device. Something that can hopefully be used in conjunction with just about any electrical device to make it more efficient and in some cases energy independent.

Many of us have read and studied a lot of Tesla and Bearden and yet for many reasons we still don't have a working device and/or fully understand much of what we read and studied. We're not reading and studying for the heck of it. We all truly want a working device. We don't want to talk about it and how easy it is to understand when nobody is coming forward with a working prototype they are willing to share. Tesla found it easy and I'm 100% sure that Eric Dollard & Bearden know how to make such devices, but many of us need HELP. We need a savior to guide us. If you understand like you have said you do, please guide us. Please give us some tangible information we can use to make such a device.

Please do not infer that we are a bunch of idiots for not understanding Tesla and Bearden.

I've read many of your posts but probably not all of them. Thanks in advance for any guidance you are willing to give. Remember that many here are not electrical engineers. Many don't know that much about electricity.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

I would then suggest that you look into replicating tesla's hairpin circuit. And from there look into replicating his high frequency current circuits. Do you all need a tutorial for it? I know how seeing can make it clique, especially if staring over and reading the text just doesn't do it. I'd be happy, in my spare time to help nudge people along. The immediate results of this group work would be access to dirt cheap light, and light which is unlike any other. Custom bulbs may eventually be needed, but that would be down the road a way.

If there's PMs then pm me on it as I don't always get on here that much.

[Slovenia]

Final Secret of Free Energy (T. Bearden)

Here is some additional information on Tom Beardens, "Final Secret of Free Energy".

Additional Information On The Final Secret Of Free Energy

[Slovenia]

Thank You!!

Hi Crackahcrackah,

Thanks for sharing with us. I'm trying to motivate some folks on our forum to come together and get something built. I think most of us want the same thing, some sort of free energy device.

A tutorial for it would be nice. Thanks.

We have very knowledgeable guys and many who are not, so any helps would be very much appreciated. Some of the more knowledgeable electrical guys are still thinking this can't be done because that is what has been taught in all the universities and that presents a big problem for us. We need the advanced electrical guys to help us but we all need to come together and think out of the box.

If we are going to be successful at building some sort of free energy device we all need to come together and share constructively.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

I would then suggest that you look into replicating tesla's hairpin circuit. And from there look into replicating his high frequency current circuits. Do you all need a tutorial for it? I know how seeing can make it clique, especially if staring over and reading the text just doesn't do it. I'd be happy, in my spare time to help nudge people along. The immediate results of this group work would be access to dirt cheap light, and light which is unlike any other. Custom bulbs may eventually be needed, but that would be down the road a way.

If there's PMs then pm me on it as I don't always get on here that much.

[Jbignes5]

Hi Jbignes5,

With all due respect if you know the answers to our questions please post them on this thread. We are looking for working circuits here. Something that we can build and have a proof of concept device. Something that can hopefully be used in conjunction with just about any electrical device to make it more efficient and in some cases energy independent.

Many of us have read and studied a lot of Tesla and Bearden and yet for many reasons we still don't have a working device and/or fully understand much of what we read and studied. We're not reading and studying for the heck of it. We all truly want a working device. We don't want to talk about it and how easy it is to understand when nobody is coming forward with a working prototype they are willing to share. Tesla found it easy and I'm 100% sure that Eric Dollard & Bearden know how to make such devices, but many of us need HELP. We need a savior to guide us. If you understand like you have said you do, please guide us. Please give us some tangible information we can use to make such a device.

Please do not infer that we are a bunch of idiots for not understanding Tesla and Bearden.

I've read many of your posts but probably not all of them. Thanks in advance for any guidance you are willing to give. Remember that many here are not electrical engineers. Many don't know that much about electricity.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

I never meant that as an attack on anyone. I am just frustrated because I guess people don't get the fact that it is a very simple process. One that we all have ignored because it couldn't be that simple. It has to have yards and yards of mathematics and volumes of pages to describe the processes.

Instead of reading my real post you comment on my frustration instead of where I try to explain myself.

I apologize, continue with what you were doing.

[Slovenia]

Sorry for my misunderstanding!!

Hi Jbignes5,

You are a great guy. I very much apologize for misinterpreting what you were trying to say. I didn't read your original post as well as I should have.

You appear to know this Tesla & Bearden stuff very well. It's not that easy for many of us. Bearden is fairly cryptic in most everything he says but I know he knows what he is talking about and I feel he is trying to tell everyone the real truth. Tesla on the other hand appears to be fairly easy to understand, but when you go to perform the experiments it's like something is missing.

Like you, I am very frustrated myself but for a different reason. I have been reading and studying both Tesla and Bearden for quite some time now and I still can't figure out how to replicate a free energy device. I know some guys who say they have figured out how to decipher what Bearden is saying in his books and they claim to understand him very well, but they are not sharing what they have found with me. I don't know anyone who has claimed to get a Tesla device to work except for maybe Eric Dollard and I believe he has.

So, if you know how to make some of these devices, I'd like to network with you. I'd like to build some devices and get the how to information out to the masses.

Thanks so much for clarifying your post!!! You are the man!!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia

I never meant that as an attack on anyone. I am just frustrated because I guess people don't get the fact that it is a very simple process. One that we all have ignored because it couldn't be that simple. It has to have yards and yards of mathematics and volumes of pages to describe the processes.

Instead of reading my real post you comment on my frustration instead of where I try to explain myself.

I apologize, continue with what you were doing.

[Slovenia]

circuit design to not kill the dipole

I'm trying to wrap myself around what it means in actual practice to not kill the dipole. I want to build these more efficient systems, so I need to understand how to do this. How to engineer the circuit to know kill the dipole is way over my head right now. If any of you know how to design a circuit that keeps the dipole from being killed please post it for us to see and then explain it to us. Thanks so much in advance!!!

[nvisser]

Could this be an example of not killing the dipole?

[Jbignes5]

Not killing the dipole...

Ok the first thing is that dipole is a rather hard thing to imagine. Lets instead imagine a source of charges or energy. They are self contained and a cycle of energy or charges flows on the outside of the radius of the source charges. The source in this case is a swirling mass of charges that have formed organized chains into a never ending cycle. There is no beginning nor end to these chains and they can grow when more charges get scooped up in the cycle.

Ok that source is the dipole. It has potential to do work when it has other charges or matter to interact with. All current is, is potential in motion and the ability of that potential to drag or effect more charges or matter in that motion.

Lets relate this to what Tesla figured out. He figured out that charge and motion are not the same. The real physical world rides above a aetheric one. The aether is actually a network of dynamic conductors or guide for matter and real charges to follow. This network flow like water. and can arange itself in the same manner. It also tends to pool around larger sources and creates pathways for the real to follow. In fact our solar system is based off of this kind of flow. It's major channel is the sun and that channel is not perfect, it leaks. Thats what the sun is. It's only a leak around a conduit of very high pressure and the connectors that connect our planets to the sun are smaller then the connection coming into the sun hence why it leaks. This leak has emitted huge amounts of energy that has attracted matter to it. This matter is the physical form of the sun. The matter when it interacts with the energy reacts in a way that radiates all kinds of effects.

Now how do we use this natural event in a way to harness and convert it to real motion. Well one needs a source that can not be tapped or that can be tapped and regenerated on the fly. Tesla figured out that the medium is highly attracted to pure potential. Meaning it will form into a network around that source if it is exposed to the surrounding environment and the charges will flow. These charges interact with the environment in such a way that it creates light from the motion of the charges. This is the lightning effect that we see today. The amount of energy in that area around the network is immense. Not because we are providing the the energy but because of the interaction of what we did provide and the resultant movement of the charges twords what we did provide (high voltage).

Voltage moves the medium and then current flows twords that source with the provided pathways the medium moves into. Current is then able to flow along those pathways to the source. Once there the charges flip in polarity and rocket away. How that mechanism works, I am still working on but I am very close to understanding it.

Lets look at this:



This picture is very telling of what static energy is. When the brushes touch each piece of metal they become the potential of the ambient state of the air surrounding the plane of material with conductors on it. They discharge to their base charge level then go around to collect more from the environment and so on. This allows the leyden jars to collect these charges as a pulsed potential that step charges the leyden jars. When the leyden jars have enough potential to break down the spark gap it arcs and reacts with so much force that it drives the transformer very powerfully. Since the transformer is in step down mode this greatly enhances the flow at the output or increases the amperage and lowers the voltage potential.

This is an excellent source to use. I have posted links to the associated devices before. Here is one that can be used as a source.
METHOD OF AND APPARATUS FOR ELEC - Google Patent Search

In fact the Tesla experiment with the Pierce arrow might have used this since Tesla was very interested in static machines of the day. I checked the dates of this patent and his statement that statics is a viable method to utilize. Also his Nephew reported that there was a pressure guage on the consol that Tesla kept an eye on. Since this device is vacuum dependent to keep a certain amount of dielectric in the device and to reduce static emissions this seems to be a good course to follow.

Static shielding is most likely used after the source to keep corona from forming all along the wires except where the tubes were used or the designed in and out antennas. Tube=vacuum. The antennas are where the magic happens. instead of being like the typical corona, if you have two antennas it forms a straight line connection between the two points. Remember that voltage goes one way -> and current gets attracted the other <-. Voltage seems to move faster then the charges and leads me to believe that voltage does indeed lead current. So this leads me to believe that Tesla used a pair or maybe 3 antennas (1 being a pressure bypass) in such a way that they all weighed the same or had the same mass but were of different surface area. With one antenna being the out (large surface area) and the other two being the in's (smaller surface area). If you have read any of the Tesla documents You should read my favorite one:

"Experiments with Alternate Currents of High Potential and High Frequency"

This has a lot of good information and this is mostly where others like Dollard and Don Smith have gotten their fundamentals from.

So is there a negative charge? Absolutely not. Why? Because if there was a negative charge then it would all stick together and not move one bit. Everything would have become neutral like matter is. So that leaves only one way to look at this. All charges are positive. It is the degree of difference(size) between two charges that determines if it is more positive then the other. So we can conclude that all mater has a basic charge level to it, in it's core. The matter is neutral of charge and only passes the charges potential to the outside environment. The charges in matter can be pumped up or leeched away and thats where we see transient effects like turning into solids or liquid. Of course the charges that are outside of matter are the balancing effect. Meaning that if you have 10 units of charge in the interior of the matter then you have a balancing 10 units on the outside of that matter.

I am thinking this is an old technology. That at one point ancient man had access to this knowledge and used it. If we look at Egypt and the white powdered gold one can see how they could in fact had a great supply of charge to do whatever they wished with it. If it is true about Ormus then we have the ultimate medium that has been condensed. It is suspected that this is a superconductor. Ok then how do we use it. Well just like the Egyptian did. Make a leyden jar but substitute this Ormus for the core material. Imagine a substance that can hold any amount of charge. The ark of the covenant was just such a device. The one ark that they suspect to be the covenant one was only filled with what they suspect was sand. Well what if it was filled with both sand and this white powdered gold. That would be one hell of a leyden jar.

Ok so back to the discussion at hand. I know this seems to be very long but you asked for it. Lets see if this makes any sense to you so far.. Ask away!

[Jbignes5]

Yes

Could this be an example of not killing the dipole?

Yes. That is one method. Thats just a Tesla switch and that was done to prove that charges move from highest to lowest no matter what the polarity. Even with two like polarities it still will drive a motor and charge the end batteries.

[Slovenia]

Thanks!!

Thanks Nvisser for sharing the circuit!!

Could this be an example of not killing the dipole?

[Slovenia]

Thanks Very Much!!

Hi Jbingnes5,

Thank so much for taking the time to try and simplify the killing the dipole process!! As you said, it's not an easy concept to get into your mind properly.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Ok the first thing is that dipole is a rather hard thing to imagine. Lets instead imagine a source of charges or energy. They are self contained and a cycle of energy or charges flows on the outside of the radius of the source charges. The source in this case is a swirling mass of charges that have formed organized chains into a never ending cycle. There is no beginning nor end to these chains and they can grow when more charges get scooped up in the cycle.

Ok that source is the dipole. It has potential to do work when it has other charges or matter to interact with. All current is, is potential in motion and the ability of that potential to drag or effect more charges or matter in that motion.

Lets relate this to what Tesla figured out. He figured out that charge and motion are not the same. The real physical world rides above a aetheric one. The aether is actually a network of dynamic conductors or guide for matter and real charges to follow. This network flow like water. and can arange itself in the same manner. It also tends to pool around larger sources and creates pathways for the real to follow. In fact our solar system is based off of this kind of flow. It's major channel is the sun and that channel is not perfect, it leaks. Thats what the sun is. It's only a leak around a conduit of very high pressure and the connectors that connect our planets to the sun are smaller then the connection coming into the sun hence why it leaks. This leak has emitted huge amounts of energy that has attracted matter to it. This matter is the physical form of the sun. The matter when it interacts with the energy reacts in a way that radiates all kinds of effects.

Now how do we use this natural event in a way to harness and convert it to real motion. Well one needs a source that can not be tapped or that can be tapped and regenerated on the fly. Tesla figured out that the medium is highly attracted to pure potential. Meaning it will form into a network around that source if it is exposed to the surrounding environment and the charges will flow. These charges interact with the environment in such a way that it creates light from the motion of the charges. This is the lightning effect that we see today. The amount of energy in that area around the network is immense. Not because we are providing the the energy but because of the interaction of what we did provide and the resultant movement of the charges twords what we did provide (high voltage).

Voltage moves the medium and then current flows twords that source with the provided pathways the medium moves into. Current is then able to flow along those pathways to the source. Once there the charges flip in polarity and rocket away. How that mechanism works, I am still working on but I am very close to understanding it.

Lets look at this:



This picture is very telling of what static energy is. When the brushes touch each piece of metal they become the potential of the ambient state of the air surrounding the plane of material with conductors on it. They discharge to their base charge level then go around to collect more from the environment and so on. This allows the leyden jars to collect these charges as a pulsed potential that step charges the leyden jars. When the leyden jars have enough potential to break down the spark gap it arcs and reacts with so much force that it drives the transformer very powerfully. Since the transformer is in step down mode this greatly enhances the flow at the output or increases the amperage and lowers the voltage potential.

This is an excellent source to use. I have posted links to the associated devices before. Here is one that can be used as a source.
METHOD OF AND APPARATUS FOR ELEC - Google Patent Search

In fact the Tesla experiment with the Pierce arrow might have used this since Tesla was very interested in static machines of the day. I checked the dates of this patent and his statement that statics is a viable method to utilize. Also his Nephew reported that there was a pressure guage on the consol that Tesla kept an eye on. Since this device is vacuum dependent to keep a certain amount of dielectric in the device and to reduce static emissions this seems to be a good course to follow.

Static shielding is most likely used after the source to keep corona from forming all along the wires except where the tubes were used or the designed in and out antennas. Tube=vacuum. The antennas are where the magic happens. instead of being like the typical corona, if you have two antennas it forms a straight line connection between the two points. Remember that voltage goes one way -> and current gets attracted the other <-. Voltage seems to move faster then the charges and leads me to believe that voltage does indeed lead current. So this leads me to believe that Tesla used a pair or maybe 3 antennas (1 being a pressure bypass) in such a way that they all weighed the same or had the same mass but were of different surface area. With one antenna being the out (large surface area) and the other two being the in's (smaller surface area). If you have read any of the Tesla documents You should read my favorite one:

"Experiments with Alternate Currents of High Potential and High Frequency"

This has a lot of good information and this is mostly where others like Dollard and Don Smith have gotten their fundamentals from.

So is there a negative charge? Absolutely not. Why? Because if there was a negative charge then it would all stick together and not move one bit. Everything would have become neutral like matter is. So that leaves only one way to look at this. All charges are positive. It is the degree of difference(size) between two charges that determines if it is more positive then the other. So we can conclude that all mater has a basic charge level to it, in it's core. The matter is neutral of charge and only passes the charges potential to the outside environment. The charges in matter can be pumped up or leeched away and thats where we see transient effects like turning into solids or liquid. Of course the charges that are outside of matter are the balancing effect. Meaning that if you have 10 units of charge in the interior of the matter then you have a balancing 10 units on the outside of that matter.

I am thinking this is an old technology. That at one point ancient man had access to this knowledge and used it. If we look at Egypt and the white powdered gold one can see how they could in fact had a great supply of charge to do whatever they wished with it. If it is true about Ormus then we have the ultimate medium that has been condensed. It is suspected that this is a superconductor. Ok then how do we use it. Well just like the Egyptian did. Make a leyden jar but substitute this Ormus for the core material. Imagine a substance that can hold any amount of charge. The ark of the covenant was just such a device. The one ark that they suspect to be the covenant one was only filled with what they suspect was sand. Well what if it was filled with both sand and this white powdered gold. That would be one hell of a leyden jar.

Ok so back to the discussion at hand. I know this seems to be very long but you asked for it. Lets see if this makes any sense to you so far.. Ask away!

[Slovenia]

not killing the dipole

Hi Jbignes5,

Yes, this is starting to make a lot more sense. Thanks for taking the time and effort to do such a good job of explaining this material. This is the kind of information I was hoping to get from someone. Thanks again!!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia

Ok so back to the discussion at hand. I know this seems to be very long but you asked for it. Lets see if this makes any sense to you so far.. Ask away!

[Jbignes5]

The more I look into statics...

The more I feel that this is the secret. Check this patent out. It is a variable capacitance static generator that uses the imbalance of unmatched static capacitors. This too is yet another method to get a sloshing back and forth of a static potential and use that as well to drive a load.

Here it is:

Electrostatic energy conversion system - Google Patent Search

Imagine making one with many many plates? There would be no friction but the bearings.

[dragon]

I'm trying to understand but it still hasn't quite made the light go off in my head.... If you have a charged battery not connected to a load this would be considered a dipole?

So in order to not kill the dipole you would need a single wire with a load on the end and a device that could switch the other end from pos to neg extreemly fast changing the potential of that wire thus powering the load. Therefore nothing is removed or added to the battery... ?????

I guess I'm looking for an analogy that will give me that " ah ha " moment. Until that moment of understanding happens, nothing can be built.
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[Slovenia]

Tesla Single Wire Circuit

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