Charge conserving Capacitive Spring.

[nueview]

it is true that i assume a certain amount of physics to be understood but i was also trying to get to a point with some simple questions.

i agree a counter magnetic field seems most correct.

how then would this apply to the standard oscillating tank circuit?

if i have a transformer with a 1:1 ratio and the coils are connected so that the polarity of the coils are opposing each other and an ac signal is applied it will cancel leaving only a dc component to pass through the coils

if a dc current is passed through this arangement it will take a period of time to come to steady state after the initial connection and pass quite readily with only the wire resistance to be considered.

i am not trying to keep track of any electron flow in these descriptions they are there and assumed to be there what i am mainly looking at are the field actions and there resultants.

the later are for clues only.
Martin

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if i have a transformer with a 1:1 ratio and the coils are connected so that the polarity of the coils are opposing each other and an ac signal is applied it will cancel leaving only a dc component to pass through the coils

if a dc current is passed through this arangement it will take a period of time to come to steady state after the initial connection and pass quite readily with only the wire resistance to be considered.

i am not trying to keep track of any electron flow in these descriptions they are there and assumed to be there what i am mainly looking at are the field actions and there resultants.

the later are for clues only.
Martin

This setup reminds me of what I have read on Caduceus coils and how the magnetic field cancels but you still have the dielectric/longitudinal component of the inductor.

Basically, you would end up with a resistor that produces a longitudinal-magneto-dielectric flux?

Dave

[nueview]

good work dave

this is what i got from walter russels description of a common carbon resister he said " the charge is thrown off and only the spin characteristic is passed through."

very interesting statement because he is seperating field action from the sin characteristic of the magnetic action. so what the field energy does is more important to walter russel.

so what are all the field actions taking place within an oscillating tank circuit that offeres high resistance and high current keeping field timing and phase in mind?

Martin

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so what are all the field actions taking place within an oscillating tank circuit that offeres high resistance and high current keeping field timing and phase in mind?

Martin

I've got nothing. I don't know that I have ever seen a big enough capacitor/inductor combo that would allow for high currents through a high resistance (at least not for very long anyway). From all of the Tesla coil stuff that I have researched, your LMD wave manifests stronger through a low resistance in the LC tank circuit. What are your thoughts about the field produced? What have you observed?

On another note, I finally got my magnetite and my Alexanderson style magamp core is curing. I really didn't feel like buying Metglas so we'll see how this works out. I've got two big neo magnets sitting on each end of the mold so that the domains of the magnetite are a bit more uniform. It just sucks that I've got to go out of town for a week on Monday so it will probably be a little while before I can really experiment with it.

I found an interesting article on magnetite that I've attached. I am hoping that by aligning the domains of the magnetite that it will behave more like the hysteresis loop #1 on page 4 of the article despite the fact that this magnetite probably has random particle sizes. Maybe Bill Muller was onto something with his cores..

Dave

[SilverToGold]

Sweet Dave!

The magnets are needed to make sure the little magnetite sands pieces connect and form a magnetic connection. That's all. If they don't connect, you're not going to get much efficiency in it as a transformer I believe.

My resin casting failed due to bubbles that came about when the resin cured. I'm going to have to make a new mold, don't like my current one and perfect my casting method. May try some new resin or time it better. I've got a vacuum setup to remove bubbles but timing with this stuff is important.

There are some nice tricks you can do with this design that Naudin didn't cover for obvious reasons.

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My resin casting failed due to bubbles that came about when the resin cured. I'm going to have to make a new mold, don't like my current one and perfect my casting method. May try some new resin or time it better. I've got a vacuum setup to remove bubbles but timing with this stuff is important.

You got bubbles? Sounds like too much resin. I made a THICK gooey paste. It seems to magnetize rather well. I probably need to find a way to reinforce it because it seems pretty brittle.

You can watch a video here that Cody made that shows the importance of using as much magnetite to resin as possible.

Magnitite Cores 2 - YouTube

Keep in mind that I have done no tests yet so I am speculating. My control windings will be 1:1. Before I wind the outer coil, I'll check the transformer efficiency on the scope when I sweep the frequency.

Dave

[SilverToGold]

I agree, got to get as much magnetite in there as possible.

I have lots of experience casting with resin so I know the problem I am experiencing. Moisture also can cause bubbles with the type of slow curing resin I'm using and it's very humid where I'm at.

I am using a vacuum system so I can get all the bubbles out after mixing it and I can put in just enough resin in each part as I want. My problem is the resin I'm using (the slow curing type). Just need to time it exactly when the bubbles right before curing are removed and then cast it. The magnetite cools the mixture and slows the resin even more than usual, so that's where it messed me up.

I'm redesigning my core so I can remove the coils, kind of like a C shaped core and coils wound on wire bobbins. Kind of like these:



I want to be able to test different coil configurations and it makes winding the coils a hell of a lot easier! I can automate it with a drill versus hand winding it completely.

The coils on each leg have to be matched also.

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You got bubbles? Sounds like too much resin. I made a THICK gooey paste. It seems to magnetize rather well. I probably need to find a way to reinforce it because it seems pretty brittle.

You can watch a video here that Cody made that shows the importance of using as much magnetite to resin as possible.

Magnitite Cores 2 - YouTube

Keep in mind that I have done no tests yet so I am speculating. My control windings will be 1:1. Before I wind the outer coil, I'll check the transformer efficiency on the scope when I sweep the frequency.

Dave

[SilverToGold]

Ever consider doing bi-filar windings?

The reason I say that is because you could draw off "extra"power by using the transformer core as..... well a transformer!

You pump in a waveform into the core to change the inductance..... you get power out of the "perpendicular non coupled" coil but you also just use the power you put into it as a normal transformer.

That is how you can pull this system to "optimal" efficiency. Naudin didn't do that but why waste that power? It would just scream "HEY I'M OVERUNITY!!!" I'm just guessing..... he didn't want the heat but anyone with some common sense can see what he didn't do what would take it over the edge so he just danced around it so others could put together the obvious pieces.

Keep in mind that I have done no tests yet so I am speculating. My control windings will be 1:1. Before I wind the outer coil, I'll check the transformer efficiency on the scope when I sweep the frequency.

Dave

[Raui]

It's great to see you guys making your own cores but I'm not sure if magnetite will give you the best results. What your after is a very steep B/H curve and magnetite, atleast from what I've seen, hasn't got the steepest B/H curve. I'm going to be coming by a bit little bit of pocket money in the near future and inquired to metglas as to whether or not they do custom shaped cores (Alexanderson cores) and asked for a rough price and minimum order. I'll let you guys know when I get some figures but would anybody else be interested in purchasing some of these cores as I don't know if I'll have enough pocket money to meet minimum order costs.

Raui

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It's great to see you guys making your own cores but I'm not sure if magnetite will give you the best results. What your after is a very steep B/H curve and magnetite, atleast from what I've seen, hasn't got the steepest B/H curve. I'm going to be coming by a bit little bit of pocket money in the near future and inquired to metglas as to whether or not they do custom shaped cores (Alexanderson cores) and asked for a rough price and minimum order. I'll let you guys know when I get some figures but would anybody else be interested in purchasing some of these cores as I don't know if I'll have enough pocket money to meet minimum order costs.

Raui

I understand what you are saying, but price does play a big role in my decisions. I am using magnetite for initial experiments. Although it might not work as well as a Metglas core, It should show some type of result. This will help me to decide on how to shape the more expensive custom core. I hate spending lots of money on something that doesn't work the way that I wanted. Keep me posted on you custom Metglas inquiry as I am interested.

Dave

[SilverToGold]

Are you sure about that Raui?

From what I saw on a video by Peter Lindemann and some other gentleman who's name escapes me, they claimed magnetite is better than metglass. It has a very sharp B/H curve, heating is very negligible, it's cheap and relatively easy to make once one has masterd the little intricacies.

From what I've heard, magnetite (black sand) is the best you can get.

I could be wrong but my guess is it's all in how well the magnetite is casted.

It's great to see you guys making your own cores but I'm not sure if magnetite will give you the best results. What your after is a very steep B/H curve and magnetite, atleast from what I've seen, hasn't got the steepest B/H curve. I'm going to be coming by a bit little bit of pocket money in the near future and inquired to metglas as to whether or not they do custom shaped cores (Alexanderson cores) and asked for a rough price and minimum order. I'll let you guys know when I get some figures but would anybody else be interested in purchasing some of these cores as I don't know if I'll have enough pocket money to meet minimum order costs.

Raui

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ok as to what i have seen.
i was working along the rotoverter line of thought with a standard single phase induction motor the run winding was set as a tank circuit by adding capacitance till the lowest running input was obtained for the 60 Hz input current draw dropped to just under 1 amp with 7.5 amp running in the tank circuit as the motor shaft load increased the current flowing increased though the tank circuit current remained steady.
torque loading tests showed there was increased torque though attempts at varing the capacitance for a new resonance was not possible.
overall input power was down and overall torque increased.
this was done with several different motors the largest a 5hp.

as for transformers i have one instance were the transformer would fail after a period of time there was no metal or insulation breakdown but the unit failed to function as though the magnetic had saturated though the unit functioned fine when removed from the particular circuit it was connected to.
i still have no answer for this but have seen magnets drain while generating hydrogen and oxygen and they can be renergized as well so this is one of the unique things i have seen but don't understand why yet.

as far as transformer b-h curves go i have a book on saturable reactors from the 1930's so it is before all the modern materials and it talks about transformer construction to develop the proper b-h reaction for signal ampilfication the main points are plate thickness and cross sectional area and gapping of the end adjoining plates and thickness of the spacing inbetween the plates as the main points.
hope this sheds some light for what you are looking to do.
Martin

[Raui]

Are you sure about that Raui?

From what I saw on a video by Peter Lindemann and some other gentleman who's name escapes me, they claimed magnetite is better than metglass. It has a very sharp B/H curve, heating is very negligible, it's cheap and relatively easy to make once one has masterd the little intricacies.

From what I've heard, magnetite (black sand) is the best you can get.

I could be wrong but my guess is it's all in how well the magnetite is casted.

I'm not 100% on it but if magnetite was superior it would be used in mag amp cores, at least that's what logic tells you. I mean it's not like it's some rare hard to come by material. However, I do hope you are correct as that would save a lot of money. I can't wait to see what you guys find with the magnetite cores.

So far nothing back from metglas re custom cores.

Raui

[SilverToGold]

Well Raui, here's the video I was referring to:

Dr. Peter Lindemann is speaking about Bill Muller's work in his variable reluctance generators, utilizing black sand magnetite (Fe3O4, etc.) core materials. This material is stated to be superior to MetGlas, and other ferrite type core materials' characteristics. This segment was taken from a video called "The World of Free Energy" (2001)

Dr. Peter Lindemann Speaks on Magnetite Core Material - YouTube

It's more than just simple magnetite, it's a composite of different magnetic entities. The fact that it is not normally used in place of Metglas probably has a lot more to due with special interest than the truth. Anything new there?

I'm not 100% on it but if magnetite was superior it would be used in mag amp cores, at least that's what logic tells you. I mean it's not like it's some rare hard to come by material. However, I do hope you are correct as that would save a lot of money. I can't wait to see what you guys find with the magnetite cores.

So far nothing back from metglas re custom cores.

Raui

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i want to ask if any of you have ever seen a naturally occurring free energy device?

Martin