Charge conserving Capacitive Spring.

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thank you very much Dave for the link to dollard's information it is quite a bit so should take some time for me to go through.

ihave been wiring a house the last few days and dealing with the new code introductions dealing with service meters and thinking about motors while i was working and it is very appearent that the in house ground and neutral are one and the same and there to protect the power companies transformer. os how much inductance do you think there is in one of those transformers?

i have had several talks with engineers from GE and the local power company over VAR and my bill and there new electronic meters and it came out that the VAR can account for an extra 30% power sold over a grid system. i got this figured out how it works.

i am not sure that there is not a heavy morality question to be asked about free energy and it often bothers me.

look these links over closely you may have already seen them but it is the best clue to show you. i am sure these are not fakes despite what anyone may say.

SMSMAT - YouTube

free energy generator - YouTube

electrostatic induction - YouTube

the last is key.
Martin

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again thank you dave

eric dollard does a great job of explaining the function of emf and mmf for the begining but there are some special function points he did not go into.

many of the people he references i have read but i think eric does the best job of laying it out for the layman with a good overview.

it is the putting it to practice were it gets interesting. according to all this all that should be needed for free energy is two coils a capacitor which is what i am finding to be true.
Martin

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Martin, I am familiar with John Bedini's work.

When you asked about "natural" free energy, I didn't think of man made devices as natural. An interesting device comes to mind now that you made more clear what you meant... a gentleman David Well's was researching Bedini's SSG motor and he found a simple modification that he was able to use to control the weather. By control, I mean he's able to steer hurricanes and cause rains/droughts by use of less power than that needed to power a TV set. That is COP > 1 - though I see it more like a transistor in that it allows a small power to control a much larger one.

Directoryavid Wells Weather Control System - PESWiki

This may seem unrelated to the work here but it's not. Of course, this all goes back really to Reich and his discovery of the orgone. You should study Reich if you have not already.

You speak of Keely and from what I know, Keely's devices seem to work only when he was around them. There is an aspect to this ether that allows some people to make energy "appear" and that is totally dependent on the person and not the machine. The problem sometimes in this field of unknown energies, is that people are too mechanistic and don't understand that the subtle force is sometimes channeled through the operator. Lots of this in Radionics. It can be very frustrating to people since we really do not have any readily available devices to measure these energies and are working blind. This is one reason why Reich is so important, his ideas actually allowed people to measure these fields to some degree.

Speaking of those ancient Egyptians, the higher ups probably had electricity and other technology we don't have today that is more powerful than what most modern people can imagine.

The capacitive generator to me has to work just from my simple analysis of the numbers.

I don't know where to find Dr Stiffler's latest videos.... lost it when my old computer crashed and I know he kept changing his YouTube site.

Do you have that site and could you post it here for me? I'd like to see what he's been up to.

Thanks

@silvertogold
i don't know if you remember any of john bedini's early work but it was very similar to the lockridge device.
i think it is like some of the things i have you see them and then you know it can be done but it doesn't happen every day so it isn't a real common thing.

something i did find a long time ago and just resently got accredited to me has to do with electrostatic machines they can build a large potential and if you use the charge from the neutralizing connectors you can keep a light lit continously with the sustained high voltage and rapid charge displacement.

hydrogen makes a plasma that is white and it is easy to get and to put under a slight vacuum so could the egyptians have had electric lights i an sure that they did. i got into this because my son was interested it the egyptian light.

this also got me to capacitive generators. charge replication is very easy and could be part of the best way to get at free energy i was watching Dr Stifflers latest you tube set and he is pulling power at a good rate directly from the enviroment it is good to see this producing arcs from a charged cap.

energy devices seem to get to a point of just having a few components usually a few 2 coils a cap and a few diodes or a transistor or spark gap i find this interesting.
Martin

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PSEC Warning - YouTube

this should get you to his new you tube page

i have seen how people can effect the outcome of things being done and there is a study that involved smashing atoms were the number of collisions was drastically effected by the viewers opinions but this is true of most things in life as well so it is hard to work and make progress with nay sayers.

as to the rain and weather as free energy demonstrations i have seen in our local area what i term as water spouts or places were it rains more than others it is unique to see and how all the clouds respond as well.
so a device to control this would seem quite possible to me. there is a guy who fertilizes his fields with energy as well i do not have the addresss any more but it uses two coils and a plastec tube you put the fertile soil in the tube at the lower coil and the upper coil radiates the energy over the field.

mainly i have been working doward a free running motor 5 hp and no output of energy from it would be just fine for me i could live with just the torque.

it is looking allot closer now and making good sense as to how it is done so wish me luck.
Martin

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look these links over closely you may have already seen them but it is the best clue to show you. i am sure these are not fakes despite what anyone may say.

free energy generator - YouTube

the last is key.
Martin

Hello Martin,

The device in the second link was interesting. Is there any more information available to replicate this device?

Thanks
Alex

@Dave,
Thanks for the link to Eric's documents. Are these some of the ones you talked about to Chris and I at the july convention?

Thanks
Alex

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@Dave,
Thanks for the link to Eric's documents. Are these some of the ones you talked about to Chris and I at the july convention?

Thanks
Alex

Yeah, I believe that site has everything but the two U.S. Psychotronics Assn. lectures that are floating around. It also doesn't have the updated Energetic Forum posts made by Eric from the thread "Peter, Whatever happened to Eric P. Dollard".

The two that I was constantly referencing were the "Symbolic Representation of Alternating Electric Waves" and "Symbolic Representation of the Generalized Electric Wave".

They are very good books to truly understand.

Dave

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hello Alex
i do not have any more information on the device in the video in fact it was taken down two days later by the man who posted it it is now on a mirror site they talk about it at overunity.

Self running coil?

sorry the other link is saying no page so i don't know what to say. the link posted is in my opinion related but not actually the same.

there are a few key points eric did not bring up probably because they are assumed to be understood
the frist is that there are three types of magnetic action ferris diamagnetic and paramagnetic and there are at least two e field actions and possibly a third or more so unless these are understood how can they be put together properly to do what you want them to perform.

lately i have been trying to get these nailed down and there is nobody working along this line except alexander frolov.
Martin

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having some thoughts about the romerouk device and re watched the video and i did not here him say there were magnets for the disc just for the reed switch about the edge.

so does this apply with ferrite switching to drive the generating coils.

Peter Lindemann Rotary Attraction Motor 2a - YouTube

Peter Lindemann Rotary Attraction Motor 2b - YouTube

some thoughts are forming but not fully there yet so bear with me.
Martin

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Martin, Thank you for the Dr Stiffler link - much appreciated.

And thanks for showing that video on that little hand held self running generator. Never saw that before.

Looking at it, it's basically the same device he shows as the SMSMAT device. It's the same basic design with some slight modifications.

Here are my notes:

1) Top magnet near coils is a specially made cylindrical N-S magnet aligned perpendicular to the cylindrical axis - towards the coils. Most likely Neo's and made from motor core magnets like this one encased in resin and with an Al metal jacket: 18mm*x*14mm*x*30mm*Motor... The difference is that he has all the N out on one side and all the S out on the other side (like the ball neo magnet he used in the SMSMAT device)

2) One coil is singularly wound, the other is bi-filar.

3) One coil of the bifilar is connected in series with the singularly wound coil and also in series with a bridge rectifier diode setup connected to a smoothing cap, that is what he uses as the output connecting to the LEDs

4) The other coil of the bi-filar is connected to the electrolytic cap in parallel and also in parallel is what seems to be some sort of magnetic switch? Never seen a reed switch like that one though.

5) The spinning mass has 2 magnets opposite of each other, one is N out, the other is S out. This is what's tripping the magnetic switch.

Looks like a simple build but I still don't know how it works but I agree with you, it looks genuine.

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also note that the one with the flywheel that the magnets are offset to the magnetic coils on top so it may be set to fire when the magnets are at top dead center of the coils and pushes the magnet away the flywheel would store torque in the item.

i think we need to keep track of the current flow seperate of the magnetic field as Lewin at MIT says the magnetic controls the charge flow only and i have some demonstrations of this in my favorites at my you tube page.

JK Plasma Magnetics Experiment 2 - YouTube

wire wind direction may make a difference as well .

also i am thinking that the upper magnet it not persay needed a bar wraped with a closed coil of wire may work better.
my thought is that the magnet itself may be more of a hinderance than a help any thoughts ?
Martin

ps there are 95 views on this topic yesterday so others are following this topic as well good to see but no input it would be helpful.

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i am sorry for the spam here but i am wondering if the bibilar coil is set as the drive coil if used properly it would resist current flow from pulseing then divide it and use just the two windings to charge and give the output.

it may be that the reed switch or is it a magnetic field effect transistor.
a reed could be unseen along one of the posts not sure about this though.

icould have this sequence backward i am not sure !
Martin

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Martin, I don't know how it works at all really. But anyone could look at those two videos and come to the elementary connections that I have and build it. I doubt the inventor even knows exactly how it works.

I just looked at his cicuit diagram for the SMSMAT device and spent a good amount of time looking closely at the device shown. I carefully drew out the schematic from examing the video and it matches almost exactly the SMSMAT device.

The video seems pretty clear and didn't seem like he was hiding something. I think his intent was to show it so others could replicate. So why hide some switch somewhere? Also it matches the SMSMAT schematic almost exactly. If he's hiding something in that video, it's a fake and the SMSMAT is also probably a fake.

The device connected to the electrolytic cap has two leads, so it's not a transistor or a Hall effect device. So I believe it's some sort of magnetic switch. If you look at the SMSMAT device, the reed switch is quite far from the magnet. These are neo's also so quite strong.

i am sorry for the spam here but i am wondering if the bibilar coil is set as the drive coil if used properly it would resist current flow from pulseing then divide it and use just the two windings to charge and give the output.

it may be that the reed switch or is it a magnetic field effect transistor.
a reed could be unseen along one of the posts not sure about this though.

icould have this sequence backward i am not sure !
Martin

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the SMSMAT does seem very straight forward i agree other than wire size and number of turns there is not much to it.

in fact it has many similarities to the newman motor.

noe of the guys in our group here in alaska said he read the coil was 4000 turns of 40 swg and 4000 turns of 30 awg it is a pretty high impediance to the coils. just added it because it is information not that it is correct as we don't know.

the other tiny motor i am thinking has a reed switch as the magnet at top could be adjusted for angle to the magnets on the bottom flywheel and at the top a field effect transistor.

these devices can be being used as a substitute for the spark gaps in the kapagen or don smith devices but for lower power rating otherwise there is a similarity to these devices as well.

i have some smell printer motors that i am thinking of useing it is three phase and on one winding with a spin it gives 2 volt pk-pk but the other two windings give 4 volt pk-pk it is a factory printer drive motor rated for 24 volt and it is rated to 6000 rpm now i just need a circuit i was looking to run it resonant drive and still may.
Martin

Mini-Motor-Gen (Try3) part3 -BEST- - YouTube

it is being accomplished!

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you may want to check out this series of videos on magnetic field action.

Ed Leedskalnin Magnet 4 - YouTube

martin

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there is something i keep running into and it is making me wonder if there is a fourth state for magnetism or am i just missing something.

there is the ferromagnetic basically it is always attracting a field.

then there is the diamagnetic such as it is always in opposition to any magnetic field action.

then there is the paramagnetic it may be that this is my problem the field actions here get a bit confusing.

with these three field interactions working through the field action as a vector analisys it gets rather interesting what one can come up with and the fuzzy descriptions i have found for paramagnetic fields is making me wonder if there is not a fourth field action for magnetics.

or is it a straight function between the para and dia magnetic actions.
this is in reguard to single wire power transmission useing an avromenko plug for deriving power out.

the alternative would be that the e field action is brought forward and playing a bigger part.

any thoughts would help here.
Martin