Free Energy Finally obviously proved! by sebosfato the neim man

[leedskalnin]

Thannks

You can find the informations here, How to build your Glow Discharge Plasma Panel. I have only used different electronic circuit and panel construction. Regards

Thanks for the page but you mentioned:

It should also have an oscillating circuit with a very precise separation circuit using a photocoupler between the oscillating circuit and the power stage supplying the high voltage transformer SENNA it does not work, there are crazy two months to understand this.


I wanted to know that you used photocoupler instead of MOSFET? On that page the experimenter reached the same "Hissing" situation you mentioned and he did not separate the circuit as you mentioned. You said that it is very important. I have read some information in this regard on other forums(like this: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure) and wanted to know how to generate that radiant like emanation as you mentioned. Then specially your circuit for generating such situations is more useful for me than others circuit.

Many thanks again dear.

[Jetijs]

Leedskalnin, that link is very interesting.
I just threw together a simple version of that ionizer and it works good. Speaker wires illuminate nicely, but very dimm, I guess my induction coil is weak. The input voltage is about 30V and the current up to 1A, but that differs depending on frequency and duty cycle. I got the hissing and everything. The optimum frequency was around 500Hz, that created the most light. The circuit I used is very simple, just a MOSFET in series with the coil and a signal generator connected to the MOSFET gate. Here is a picture:



This picture is overexposed, in reality you can only see dimm light in dark room.
Very much fun
Thanks,
Jetijs

[sebosfato]

Now drop it into water and see what happens. This is the idea...

How many kilovolts you got? what circuit (transformer) exactly you used?

Could you share here?

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Leedskalnin, that link is very interesting.
I just threw together a simple version of that ionizer and it works good. Speaker wires illuminate nicely, but very dimm, I guess my induction coil is weak. The input voltage is about 30V and the current up to 1A, but that differs depending on frequency and duty cycle. I got the hissing and everything. The optimum frequency was around 500Hz, that created the most light. The circuit I used is very simple, just a MOSFET in series with the coil and a signal generator connected to the MOSFET gate. Here is a picture:



This picture is overexposed, in reality you can only see dimm light in dark room.
Very much fun
Thanks,
Jetijs

Nice work Jetijs, this is a very important item, but can be designed in another form, as types of plates, the dialectric is important.

Mike

[tutanka]

Thanks for the page but you mentioned:

It should also have an oscillating circuit with a very precise separation circuit using a photocoupler between the oscillating circuit and the power stage supplying the high voltage transformer SENNA it does not work, there are crazy two months to understand this.


I wanted to know that you used photocoupler instead of MOSFET? On that page the experimenter reached the same "Hissing" situation you mentioned and he did not separate the circuit as you mentioned. You said that it is very important. I have read some information in this regard on other forums(like this: Aether Vortex Energy Converter (AVEC Device): Full Disclosure) and wanted to know how to generate that radiant like emanation as you mentioned. Then specially your circuit for generating such situations is more useful for me than others circuit.

Many thanks again dear.

You need to use high voltage mosfet , photocoupler is needed for separated oscillation stage from power coil stage. You need two power supply one for oscillator and one for power stage with ground separated. In that way you obtain an stable in frequency HV circuit. Regards

[tutanka]

Leedskalnin, that link is very interesting.
I just threw together a simple version of that ionizer and it works good. Speaker wires illuminate nicely, but very dimm, I guess my induction coil is weak. The input voltage is about 30V and the current up to 1A, but that differs depending on frequency and duty cycle. I got the hissing and everything. The optimum frequency was around 500Hz, that created the most light. The circuit I used is very simple, just a MOSFET in series with the coil and a signal generator connected to the MOSFET gate. Here is a picture:



This picture is overexposed, in reality you can only see dimm light in dark room.
Very much fun
Thanks,
Jetijs

Jetijs have used that frequency because ignition coil don't work with high frequency, for increase frequency you need to use an flyback transformer without diode

[Jetijs]

Thanks Mike
sebosfato, will try to put that thing in water and see what it does I don't know the specs of the induction coil and did not check the voltage, I guess it is around 30-40KV. I also tried an old ferrite flyback transformer from a TV using a ZVS circuit at resonance (about 30KHz), but it gave only about 15kV at 30V input, but the current was great, the spark can jump about 3-5mm through the air, but after that it can be stretched out up to 40mm, but that is due to high current, we need higher voltages. As Tutanka said, flyback transformers with diode don't work for this, even at 60-70kV, you need alternating current. I used a PVC pipe about 6" in diameter and wrapped it with some heavy gauge speaker wire that I had around, the wire is not copper, it has silvery metal strands, most probably aluminum. Will try smaller gauge wire next with thinner insulation, that would require less current to illuminate the wire. Another test I done some time ago was using a glass test tube with copper mesh cylinder inside and another on the outside. I used the same ferrite TV transformer with ZVS circuit and at 30v input it could illuminate the wire mesh inside and on outside in bright blue color. The hissing sound was also there, but the glass heated up fast till a hole melted in one spot giving a short between electrodes. The heat was rather great and the copper mesh even changed color. Interesting.
Anyway, as for the circuit I used for the speaker wire test, it is very simple, just one MOSFET (irfp250), one 10k resistor and a signal generator. I can't draw a picture at the moment but I think you will understand. The positive from a variable 30V power supply goes to one terminal of the ignition coil primary, the other primary terminal is connected to the MOSFET drain. The MOSFET source is connected to the negative of the power supply. The 10k resistor is placed between the source and gate of the MOSFET, it ensures that the MOSFET is not open if no gate signal is applied. One lead from the signal generator is connected to the negative of the power supply and the other terminal is connected to the MOSFET gate via a diode. That's it

[sebosfato]

Thanks Mike
sebosfato, will try to put that thing in water and see what it does I don't know the specs of the induction coil and did not check the voltage, I guess it is around 30-40KV. I also tried an old ferrite flyback transformer from a TV using a ZVS circuit at resonance (about 30KHz), but it gave only about 15kV at 30V input, but the current was great, the spark can jump about 3-5mm through the air, but after that it can be stretched out up to 40mm, but that is due to high current, we need higher voltages. As Tutanka said, flyback transformers with diode don't work for this, even at 60-70kV, you need alternating current. I used a PVC pipe about 6" in diameter and wrapped it with some heavy gauge speaker wire that I had around, the wire is not copper, it has silvery metal strands, most probably aluminum. Will try smaller gauge wire next with thinner insulation, that would require less current to illuminate the wire. Another test I done some time ago was using a glass test tube with copper mesh cylinder inside and another on the outside. I used the same ferrite TV transformer with ZVS circuit and at 30v input it could illuminate the wire mesh inside and on outside in bright blue color. The hissing sound was also there, but the glass heated up fast till a hole melted in one spot giving a short between electrodes. The heat was rather great and the copper mesh even changed color. Interesting.
Anyway, as for the circuit I used for the speaker wire test, it is very simple, just one MOSFET (irfp250), one 10k resistor and a signal generator. I can't draw a picture at the moment but I think you will understand. The positive from a variable 30V power supply goes to one terminal of the ignition coil primary, the other primary terminal is connected to the MOSFET drain. The MOSFET source is connected to the negative of the power supply. The 10k resistor is placed between the source and gate of the MOSFET, it ensures that the MOSFET is not open if no gate signal is applied. One lead from the signal generator is connected to the negative of the power supply and the other terminal is connected to the MOSFET gate via a diode. That's it

Thanks jettis for the details. I have tried but didn't tried to turn off the lights =)... and i don't have camera for taking pics...

The only time i got this effect i have reported in the past, i was using a toroid transformer with secondary being stainless steel witch had a rubber like insulation, the thing lighted up like an ufo (secondary was not connected to anything) and after few tests got burning on fire. I was like a flash light that keep lighted. I could never repeat that after it got destructed. Was an incident. It was the secondary doing this, cause i have hit its self resonant frequency witch was higher than 100khz that time... i was using my pll design so it automatically went into resonance.



i didn't understood completely this passage:

"One lead from the signal generator is connected to the negative of the power supply and the other terminal is connected to the MOSFET gate via a diode."

You mean the coupling of the sig generator with the mosfet to be able to turn it on right?
You mean with a diode in series with the gate signal? Woudn't it make the gate to discharge too slow only thru the 10k resistor?

Thanks a lot

I also tried with my hand made flyback but as you described i can get very long sparks here up to 5 cm, however i noted something, if i maintain the arc one of the leads gets really hot while the other keep completely cool.

I believe thats because the electrons are getting accelerated in the electric field gaining kinetic speed and this energy gained as kinetic become heat on the shock.

I have no diode in the secondary. But i'm driving it with only one mosfet too, being a irfp250 too. Amps are bit high, the primary get bit hot.

Well what i mean is that i get a kind of dc on the secondary even if i don't have diode. and at the same time is not actually dc. Is strange. Probably my core is under high saturation even having air gap...


Tutanka said is very important that the tube is plexiglass.

I will try using more turns on the primary, and half wave driving means. I could not buy the components yet cause i got a little busy this week and also didn't had money to buy the components =(. Next week i will be able to do more tests.


Best Regards

[tutanka]

Thanks jettis for the details. I have tried but didn't tried to turn off the lights =)... and i don't have camera for taking pics...

The only time i got this effect i have reported in the past, i was using a toroid transformer with secondary being stainless steel witch had a rubber like insulation, the thing lighted up like an ufo (secondary was not connected to anything) and after few tests got burning on fire. I was like a flash light that keep lighted. I could never repeat that after it got destructed. Was an incident. It was the secondary doing this, cause i have hit its self resonant frequency witch was higher than 100khz that time... i was using my pll design so it automatically went into resonance.



i didn't understood completely this passage:

"One lead from the signal generator is connected to the negative of the power supply and the other terminal is connected to the MOSFET gate via a diode."

You mean the coupling of the sig generator with the mosfet to be able to turn it on right?
You mean with a diode in series with the gate signal? Woudn't it make the gate to discharge too slow only thru the 10k resistor?

Thanks a lot

I also tried with my hand made flyback but as you described i can get very long sparks here up to 5 cm, however i noted something, if i maintain the arc one of the leads gets really hot while the other keep completely cool.

I believe thats because the electrons are getting accelerated in the electric field gaining kinetic speed and this energy gained as kinetic become heat on the shock.

I have no diode in the secondary. But i'm driving it with only one mosfet too, being a irfp250 too. Amps are bit high, the primary get bit hot.

Well what i mean is that i get a kind of dc on the secondary even if i don't have diode. and at the same time is not actually dc. Is strange. Probably my core is under high saturation even having air gap...


Tutanka said is very important that the tube is plexiglass.

I will try using more turns on the primary, and half wave driving means. I could not buy the components yet cause i got a little busy this week and also didn't had money to buy the components =(. Next week i will be able to do more tests.


Best Regards

HI Sebosfato,
I don't have secrets as Mike.
Panel used in experiment in fact is similar to an LOOP ANTENNA and POSITIVE low voltage is used, in association with HV, for the free electrons generations from air. And yes.. The HV from ignition coil isn't an PURE AC. Probably is the famous "splitting the positive" of Gray. I had the same problem of absorption and heating of components on DC line for that I have investigated and I found the reason; some current return back to the source DC. You can test simple that, disconnect the positive low voltage 30V from panel antenna using an gap of 5mm you obtain an white warm spark but if you touch panel in action you don't receive any shock. Electrons return back trought positive wire (negative is attracted from positive) for that reason Naudin can light an neon put in series between the panel and the positive low voltage. With that circuit simply you open an door for extra energy creation or better free electrons creation and these are absorbed from the adjacent positive copper wire and the hiss is the sound signal that you are producing free electrons. For solve problem on source DC and extract extra energy? Probably instead to use an neon you can use an MOT transformer (2000/220V) in reverse mode. More free electrons produced more extra energy extracted!!

[tutanka]

Another test I done some time ago was using a glass test tube with copper mesh cylinder inside and another on the outside. I used the same ferrite TV transformer with ZVS circuit and at 30v input it could illuminate the wire mesh inside and on outside in bright blue color. The hissing sound was also there, but the glass heated up fast till a hole melted in one spot giving a short between electrodes. The heat was rather great and the copper mesh even changed color. Interesting.

A lot interesting, but probably you use some HV

[greenliving]

This is amazing invention..keep it up dude.atleast you care about the earth we lived.

[tutanka]

my vision..

That is my vision for extract extra energy from glow plasma panel. Works? Need to test but probably yes

[tutanka]

best question on naudin diagram..

Is noted that glow plasma appear used insulated electrode connected with AC source and ground. Naudin instead use special configuration using positive instead negative. Similarry seem the same configuration used from Gray called "splitting the positive". Is my theory that Naudin know all about including generation and utilization of extra energy generated from glow plasma reaction but sent to us only small indications.

[wings]

questa non è già una buona indicazione?

[tutanka]

questa non è già una buona indicazione?

Dipende per cosa!! Provato il circuito oppure ti fidi ciecamente?