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  • #61
    Originally posted by tutanka View Post
    Dipende per cosa!! Provato il circuito oppure ti fidi ciecamente?
    mi fido ma ho qualche perplessitā sull'etica in merito al suo utilizzo ... ti ho inviato PM

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    • #62
      Originally posted by wings View Post
      mi fido ma ho qualche perplessitā sull'etica in merito al suo utilizzo ... ti ho inviato PM
      Adesso č chiaro perchč Gray utilizzava batterie nel suo circuito come DC source primaria e non un semplice alimentatore. Anche se il circuito utilizzato č diverso da Gray viene ottenuta una gran corrente di ritorno che normalmente distruggerebbe un normale alimentatore ma non una batteria la quale viene a sua volta ricaricata.

      Now it is clearly because Gray used batteries in its circuit like primary DC source and not a simple power supply. Even if the used circuit is various from Gray comes obtained a great current of return that normally destroy a normal power supply but not a battery which comes in its turn recharged
      Last edited by tutanka; 11-09-2010, 01:00 PM.

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      • #63
        We are able to extract energy from the electric field created by a moving magnetic field. Today we use the magnetic field to move the charges witch necessitates energy. An electrostatic field stationary wont have a magnetic field, but if it varies in intensity or moves you get the magnetic field. Is about relativistic motion in space time of field and forces and particles. In the end they are both part of same thing.

        If you move something in relation to an electric field it will have a magnetic field acting to curve it minimal and other that attract the material to the electric field.

        asymmetric electric fields still needed if non equal distribution of charges are to be expaected. This probably could be done with a moving core inside the coil thought.

        You only find important things if you look well into them.

        What i'm saying is that is possible to have electric fields with no particles or charges at all, whenever you have a time varying or just time space moving magnetic field.
        Last edited by sebosfato; 11-09-2010, 04:28 PM.

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        • #64
          Maybe if we find a way to maintain the time varying flux in opposition with another time varying electric field, we could make the time go backwards. However this would happen only inside the fields. Can we build a time machine? A huge energy would be needed to accomplish the travel. The longer the distance in time the greater the energy. If you create a device that can open this kind of hole in time you can create energy from time and space. Cause you can sink into energy sources that still exist in other time.

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          • #65
            What about a resonant tank comprising a solenoid coil having three or four cores having different permeability materials being placed as to have increasing permeability in one direction so as to cause asymmetry of the fields within the bifilar coils. than make it to resonate. This is to have non linear electric field distribution while having flux canceling. on the coil going to the load. This would mess around with all electrons inside the wire.

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            • #66
              I mean a 4 stage coil having 4 bifilar windings of same length connected serially and coupled magnetically serially as increasing inductance on one side.

              This would seems like this: all coils being just a bifilar same wire length on different core materials of increasing permeability starting with none.

              ------------L1-------L2-------L3--------L4 bifilar ends (A2 B2) get connected thru a diode
              A1 B1-----/////-----/////----/////-----/////---A2---| |------(L1 A1 first bifilar)
              -------------10v-----100v---1000v---10000v -------C1

              Load across both L1 ends.
              Last edited by sebosfato; 11-09-2010, 05:42 PM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by sebosfato View Post
                I mean a 4 stage coil having 4 bifilar windings of same length connected serially and coupled magnetically serially as increasing inductance on one side.

                This would seems like this: all coils being just a bifilar same wire length on different core materials of increasing permeability starting with none.

                ------------L1-------L2-------L3--------L4 bifilar ends (A2 B2) get connected thru a diode
                A1 B1-----/////-----/////----/////-----/////---A2---| |------(L1 A1 first bifilar)
                -------------10v-----100v---1000v---10000v -------C1

                Load across both L1 ends.

                Isn't clear, please send and little design for understand your idea

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                • #68
                  maybe this help understanding a bit the idea
                  Last edited by sebosfato; 07-17-2012, 07:48 PM.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by sebosfato View Post
                    maybe this help understanding a bit the idea
                    Explain why diode and capacitor.. Sorry but I don't understand nothing. Glow Plasma is based on different concept.. isn't an gray tube

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by sebosfato View Post
                      maybe this help understanding a bit the idea
                      On diagram I can't find any source DC or HV applied..

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                      • #71
                        Ok its resonant tank you can supply it with high voltage low mili amperes if driving in parallel with the capacitor, or low voltage moderate amp if in series between the capacitor and coil A. Just hit at the right LC frequency.

                        The diode will let you to extract the energy only during half the cycle. and also it will allow the electrons to build up on the coil without discharging thus when the voltage is in favor with the current there will be conduction thus discharging the voltage on the load. Would be probably good to add diodes in series on the coils to help the stages to keep charged for a while.

                        This way you have a tank but you are not loading the magnetic field of the tank nor its electric field. You couple by induction. I think. i'm working on a little prototype to see what happens. I think the wire is too thin for geting the resonance however i will try it. In my thoughts resonance maybe is not actually needed. I'm going to do it because i know how to and in my thoughts it can help the effect to show because it develop a big concentration of energy thus charges and electric field and magnetic fields witch would in fact act on the electrons.

                        Tesla found a way to accomplish undamped oscillations. This means that he could sustain self oscillating closed circuits. For me he found a certain elasticity in the condensers too...

                        Something like get the condensers up to the breakdown limit up to the point where you see an inductive like effect so being the attractive forces of the unlike charges on the capacitor plates that want to come together. So in close to breakdown point electrons suffer from forces adding the movement in the same vector direction.

                        So what i'm saying yet is that driving self healing capacitors close to their limit might cause non expected effects.

                        Maybe other thing would be to drive the coils up to extremely hot conditions. this would cause the electrons to be more free...

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by sebosfato View Post
                          Ok its resonant tank you can supply it with high voltage low mili amperes if driving in parallel with the capacitor, or low voltage moderate amp if in series between the capacitor and coil A. Just hit at the right LC frequency.

                          The diode will let you to extract the energy only during half the cycle. and also it will allow the electrons to build up on the coil without discharging thus when the voltage is in favor with the current there will be conduction thus discharging the voltage on the load. Would be probably good to add diodes in series on the coils to help the stages to keep charged for a while.

                          This way you have a tank but you are not loading the magnetic field of the tank nor its electric field. You couple by induction. I think. i'm working on a little prototype to see what happens. I think the wire is too thin for geting the resonance however i will try it. In my thoughts resonance maybe is not actually needed. I'm going to do it because i know how to and in my thoughts it can help the effect to show because it develop a big concentration of energy thus charges and electric field and magnetic fields witch would in fact act on the electrons.

                          Tesla found a way to accomplish undamped oscillations. This means that he could sustain self oscillating closed circuits. For me he found a certain elasticity in the condensers too...

                          Something like get the condensers up to the breakdown limit up to the point where you see an inductive like effect so being the attractive forces of the unlike charges on the capacitor plates that want to come together. So in close to breakdown point electrons suffer from forces adding the movement in the same vector direction.

                          So what i'm saying yet is that driving self healing capacitors close to their limit might cause non expected effects.

                          Maybe other thing would be to drive the coils up to extremely hot conditions. this would cause the electrons to be more free...
                          Fabio,
                          Non ti scordare che la condizione č creare cold plasma e che gli elettroni liberi etc.. sono derivati da questo. Qui si apre una porta del quanta, fotoni, emr, etc.. non sono "semplicemente" gli elettroni liberi che creano l'extra energia. E' importante capire questo per poter creare un prototipo funzionante. Probabilmente non devi fare altro che aprire e chiudere la porta al momento giusto
                          Last edited by tutanka; 11-09-2010, 10:14 PM.

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                          • #73
                            There are many observable physical phenomena resulting from interactions involving virtual particles. For bosonic particles which exhibit rest mass when they are free and "real," virtual interactions are characterized by the relatively short range of the force interaction produced by particle exchange. Examples of such short-range interactions are the strong and weak forces, and their associated field bosons. For the gravitational and electromagnetic forces, the zero rest-mass of the associated boson particle permits long-range forces to be mediated by virtual particles. However, in the case of photons, power and information transfer by virtual particles is a relatively short-range phenomenon (existing importantly only within a few wavelengths of the field-disturbance which carries information or transferred power), as for example seen in the characteristically short range of inductive and capacitative effects in the near field zone of coils and antennas.
                            Some field interactions which may be seen in terms of virtual particles are:
                            The Coulomb force (static electric force) between electric charges. It is caused by the exchange of virtual photons. In symmetric 3-dimensional space this exchange results in the inverse square law for electric force. Since the photon has no mass, the coulomb potential has an infinite range.
                            The magnetic field between magnetic dipoles. It is caused by the exchange of virtual photons. In symmetric 3-dimensional space this exchange results in the inverse square law for magnetic force. Since the photon has no mass, the magnetic potential has an infinite range.
                            The so-called near field of radio antennas, where the magnetic and electric effects of the changing current in the antenna wire and the charge effects of the wire's capacitive charge are detectable, but both of which effects decay with increasing distance from the antenna much more quickly than do the influence of conventional electromagnetic waves, for which E is always equal to cB, and which are composed of real photons.


                            I will just show you a guy witch had same mine idea:
                            Electric Field Transformer

                            The idea is to induce charges movement capacitively.

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                            • #74
                              I just found another something that explain my idea here...

                              A parallel plate capacitor will exhibit an electric field between its plates, and outside of its plates. The idea behind the combined capacitor is to harvest the electric field of the outside of the plates of one capacitor to induce a charge on the other capacitor, provided by the synched resonant tank.

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