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    YouTube - Battery charging with the hex controller (4 of 4)
    What do you think about this ?
    Obviously OU !
    How many of us could replicate it in some reasonable time ?
    This could make me finally determinant to learn how to
    work with microcontrollers...
    But i would even pay for this hex programming...
    Who think this is hoax ?
    "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

  • #2
    Ive seen this effect when i was working with a sec18 , the primary source was climbing but it was mainly due to the RF noise and when applying a load you see that it was just a fluffy charge effect and not a real charge. To answer your question i really don't know if its a hoax but maybe a misunderstanding of whats going on, i don't know.

    Best Regards,
    EgmQC

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    • #3
      Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
      YouTube - Battery charging with the hex controller (4 of 4)
      What do you think about this ?
      Obviously OU !
      How many of us could replicate it in some reasonable time ?
      To reach that effect, you must have exact replication of Bob Boyce toroid. And unfortunately, information for that is limited. It will be much harder to replicate than the hex controller.

      You find more info about it on Bob Boyce electrolysis cell. He mention "only" 4 times OU on electrolysis implementation.

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      • #4
        "fluffy" charge and other things

        Originally posted by EgmQC View Post
        Ive seen this effect when i was working with a sec18 , the primary source was climbing but it was mainly due to the RF noise and when applying a load you see that it was just a fluffy charge effect and not a real charge. To answer your question i really don't know if its a hoax but maybe a misunderstanding of whats going on, i don't know.

        Best Regards,
        EgmQC
        I certainly hope that when a verifiable system arrives on the scene that folks will accept it for what it is and not "... maybe a misunderstanding of whats going on ...".

        At the same time though I have observed an effect that I am sure many have observed/experienced involving batteries, especially lead-acid batteries. This effect has sent many scrambling and clambering to declare that "They have IT".

        If you let an 'undamaged' lead-acid battery just sit, the chemical reaction within will strain to reach a 'voltage' equilibrium, and depending upon the temperature, that could range from 13.3VDC to 13.6VDC, even being in a slightly discharged state. If you put even a small current load on it however that voltage will plummet.

        So, when folks are diligently researching away, spiking their batteries with short duty-cycle pulses and seeing their battery voltages rise a little, they get all giddy and declare "OU !". It's just the battery recovering to a 'voltage' equilibrium. This usually follows a preceding cycle of discharge, work or something done to the 'healthy' battery.

        If you suspect your battery has been charged by an OU effect, check the specific gravity of the battery first, and check it against the manufacturer's 'gravity vs temperature' charts before you go pricing your yacht, airplane, new car or new home.

        I've heard of many broken hearts from folks who thought their bedini motors were OU just because of the latter effect.

        Peace,

        Greg

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        • #5
          Originally posted by gmeast View Post
          I certainly hope that when a verifiable system arrives on the scene that folks will accept it for what it is and not "... maybe a misunderstanding of whats going on ...".

          At the same time though I have observed an effect that I am sure many have observed/experienced involving batteries, especially lead-acid batteries. This effect has sent many scrambling and clambering to declare that "They have IT".

          If you let an 'undamaged' lead-acid battery just sit, the chemical reaction within will strain to reach a 'voltage' equilibrium, and depending upon the temperature, that could range from 13.3VDC to 13.6VDC, even being in a slightly discharged state. If you put even a small current load on it however that voltage will plummet.

          So, when folks are diligently researching away, spiking their batteries with short duty-cycle pulses and seeing their battery voltages rise a little, they get all giddy and declare "OU !". It's just the battery recovering to a 'voltage' equilibrium. This usually follows a preceding cycle of discharge, work or something done to the 'healthy' battery.

          If you suspect your battery has been charged by an OU effect, check the specific gravity of the battery first, and check it against the manufacturer's 'gravity vs temperature' charts before you go pricing your yacht, airplane, new car or new home.

          I've heard of many broken hearts from folks who thought their bedini motors were OU just because of the latter effect.

          Peace,

          Greg

          Yes i also have seeing this effect...

          No over unity, well not in my case...

          I was geting a spike back into the battery however when you stop the circuit you will see the voltage drop.

          Whenever you charge an inductor thru one resistance and discharge it thru a bigger one you will get higher voltage than it initially was.

          It happens because of the capacitance of the battery that take on a charge but not charge the battery, so voltage seem to be greater and actually is not. Is the same when you are charging a battery by conventional means, it will show a voltage during the charging however if you let it sit for a while it will return to a lower reading...

          in my opinion this would probably damage the battery.. when you get those spikes back you need to have a big capacitor to accommodate them and preserve the battery...

          Over unity is not only voltage.. is voltage times amperage (in phase) out > than voltage times amperage in...
          Last edited by sebosfato; 11-03-2010, 05:06 AM.

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          • #6
            Hi Guys,

            This was my work, and yes it's based on Bob Boyce's toroid, and it wasn't only an effect I got, as I was using for about a year to charge the battery of my little girl's toy car, and when she finished riding it during the day, I would connect it up again at night to charge, so the effect of volts times amps was confirmed time and again.

            Unfortunately I cannot and will not say anything more on the subject due to previous suppression threats, so don't expect any more from me on this, but if you take the time to REALLY study what bob is doing in his toroid, etc, then you will see that it can indeed go >100% effeciency, and that it's really worthwhile in terms of renewable energy.

            Peace friends!

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            • #7
              sebosfato

              It happens because of the capacitance of the battery that take on a charge but not charge the battery, so voltage seem to be greater and actually is not. Is the same when you are charging a battery by conventional means, it will show a voltage during the charging however if you let it sit for a while it will return to a lower reading...
              I think you are right in most cases, for sure. But I have a "feeling" this case is different, my thoughts are that if the battery is able to raise it's own voltage high enough for long enough I think it will cause actual charging as claimed, the charge the battery takes on may not be as dense as a regular charge but who care's if it's OU.

              I don't have the knowledge to know how to replicate the device so obviously I don't know how it works, I could be wrong, but I think it's worth looking into, Toroids are strange things and are a dohnut shape which is a common thing I notice in gravity generator designs of old, which would indicate to me the chance of a strong environmental interaction is possible with a toroid transformer or coil.

              Regards

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              • #8
                previous suppression threats

                Originally posted by watkykjy View Post
                Hi Guys,

                This was my work, and yes it's based on Bob Boyce's toroid, and it wasn't only an effect I got, as I was using for about a year to charge the battery of my little girl's toy car, and when she finished riding it during the day, I would connect it up again at night to charge, so the effect of volts times amps was confirmed time and again.

                Unfortunately I cannot and will not say anything more on the subject due to previous suppression threats, so don't expect any more from me on this, but if you take the time to REALLY study what bob is doing in his toroid, etc, then you will see that it can indeed go >100% effeciency, and that it's really worthwhile in terms of renewable energy.

                Peace friends!
                "previous suppression threats" ? You have got to be kidding ! I am getting so tired of this "suppression threats" crap. As long as everyone who has truly developed a valid OU technology uses this "threat" nonsense we will remain in the dark ages.

                I would WELCOME any threats directed toward my development of a valid OU technology because then I would know for sure that I actually DO have IT.

                I was awfully tired at the time I wrote my first reply and didn't have the stamina to add what I wanted to add. That is; the fact that you are using a toroid as part of your circuit changes things, and I think you may have stumbled onto something. I'd like to know what your charge rate is and some other details.

                Greg

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by gmeast View Post
                  "previous suppression threats" ? You have got to be kidding ! I am getting so tired of this "suppression threats" crap. As long as everyone who has truly developed a valid OU technology uses this "threat" nonsense we will remain in the dark ages.
                  Yes, i would like to meat those guys in octagon, and i would like to have
                  in there samurai katana, that would be very interesting fight, with lot of
                  red paint, i am not just getting tired, i am so rampant that i could really
                  do scary things to those guys who threat us as their slaves ...Yes, we are the slaves !!! 100 years after Teslas inventions... Till when ?
                  Maybe to little number of people have read Alexandr Solzhenitsyns
                  "The Gulag Archipelago"...We live in our kind of Gulag Archipelago too...
                  Madness and terror, that is what it really is...Madness and terror...
                  But it is little better situation then it was in Russia in those days,
                  we can make it for ourselves, but dont you dare to public this stuff,
                  otherwise, you are going to have serious problems with us (people in
                  dark)...Yes, after all , i believe it is indeed what is happening to those
                  guys who invent OU stuffs...It sounds like conspiracy theory, but it is not...
                  It is reality unfortunately...Otherwise who would pay the oil, electricity, and
                  other bills to big companies whose slaves we are ??? Yes, this is fight for
                  freedom, but are we smart enough to even participate in that fight equally,
                  not to say win that fight holding samurai katana in our hands in octagon ???
                  YouTube - Braveheart Freedom
                  "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
                    To reach that effect, you must have exact replication of Bob Boyce toroid. And unfortunately, information for that is limited. It will be much harder to replicate than the hex controller.

                    You find more info about it on Bob Boyce electrolysis cell. He mention "only" 4 times OU on electrolysis implementation.
                    YouTube - Bob Boyce:Final conclusions
                    In this video it seems that this bob boyce project turned out to be a fraud...
                    But maybe if we could replicate that toroide, and use it with stingo...
                    What do you think about that ?
                    "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by gmeast View Post
                      "previous suppression threats" ? You have got to be kidding ! I am getting so tired of this "suppression threats" crap. As long as everyone who has truly developed a valid OU technology uses this "threat" nonsense we will remain in the dark ages.

                      I would WELCOME any threats directed toward my development of a valid OU technology because then I would know for sure that I actually DO have IT.

                      I was awfully tired at the time I wrote my first reply and didn't have the stamina to add what I wanted to add. That is; the fact that you are using a toroid as part of your circuit changes things, and I think you may have stumbled onto something. I'd like to know what your charge rate is and some other details.

                      Greg
                      I and a friend of mine were prohibited to get out of the country, patent confiscated etc. By the gov and army. So i know and believe that this threats exists.

                      If he confirmed its over unity than i believe it is. He understood my point and answered correctly, is not an effect, is volts time amps not just volts..

                      Best Regards
                      Last edited by sebosfato; 11-03-2010, 02:48 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
                        YouTube - Bob Boyce:Final conclusions
                        In this video it seems that this bob boyce project turned out to be a fraud...
                        But maybe if we could replicate that toroide, and use it with stingo...
                        What do you think about that ?
                        The video is a "Hatchet Job" unfortunately.

                        The technical discussion is flawed and the
                        "procedure" is not in accordance with Bob's
                        recommendations. In order to find "resonance"
                        the frequencies and phase relationships must
                        be "tweaked."

                        The displayed waveforms were incorrect.

                        Suspiciously, the "technician" seemed to have
                        difficulty getting the scope "synced" on the
                        waveforms. This alone indicates a lack of
                        expertise and experience.

                        Yes, clearly a Hatchet Job.

                        By the way, welcome to "watkykjy."
                        It is very good to have you among us.
                        Last edited by SeaMonkey; 11-03-2010, 09:42 PM. Reason: Oversight

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SeaMonkey View Post
                          By the way, welcome to "watkykjy."
                          It is very good to have you among us.
                          Thank you very much...If i succeeded to replicate this watkykjy
                          selfcharger stuff it would be really, really something !!!
                          Two years ago (sharply) i succeeded to replicate one great
                          miniature audio transmitter which i named Obama (election day in US
                          which corresponds with one other important day of my life)...
                          If your watkykjy community or whatever it is help me replicate
                          this self battery charger which is at last OU than it would be really
                          fun coincidence with this election day again...It seems to good to
                          be true...Let see ...If this is it indeed, why is it still unknown ???
                          Aha, people in black...My katana is ready...
                          "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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                          • #14
                            If you listen carfully to what the guy says in this video it kinda makes sense.

                            YouTube - Bill Hicks - It's Just A Ride

                            I've been on this ride for a fair while, I think now I see the ride for what it is and many more are seeing it aswell, the controllers play games with us, and make life much more difficult than it needs to be. I believe with overunity we can achieve "unity". And break the shackles.



                            Here's one to make you feel better.

                            YouTube - OFFICIAL Somewhere over the Rainbow - Israel "IZ" Kamakawiwoʻole

                            Cheers

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                            • #15
                              This device realy works!

                              There is a group that has worked on this with watkykjy and what has been discovered really works. This device is very similar to the Pulsinator III device. It is like the first stage Q1. From what I have seen so far the Pulsinator III device is way more advanced and works with better principals. If you are interested in what was discovered by watkykjy then study the Pulsinator III machine. If you where to have people arrive at your home and show you info that they should not have you also would act responsibly and be quite. That is not to bury or loose the technology but not to NOT endanger your family or yourself. There are people still working on this idea and it will not die...so look at he Pulsinator III device and you will see a lot of what was done with the hex in this machine now. As for the threat to people it is real, but if we stand united as one we will overcome. There are wolves dressed as sheep among this group so be careful that you don't get bit. We are living is very exciting times with several huge advancements in OU work taking place...We the people have decided that enough is enough and we will enter the OU part of history very soon. The only question is it to late?

                              Karl

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