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**sebosfato** · 11-04-2010, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by Karl_Palsness View Post

There is a group that has worked on this with watkykjy and what has been discovered really works. This device is very similar to the Pulsinator III device. It is like the first stage Q1. From what I have seen so far the Pulsinator III device is way more advanced and works with better principals. If you are interested in what was discovered by watkykjy then study the Pulsinator III machine. If you where to have people arrive at your home and show you info that they should not have you also would act responsibly and be quite. That is not to bury or loose the technology but not to NOT endanger your family or yourself. There are people still working on this idea and it will not die...so look at he Pulsinator III device and you will see a lot of what was done with the hex in this machine now. As for the threat to people it is real, but if we stand united as one we will overcome. There are wolves dressed as sheep among this group so be careful that you don't get bit. We are living is very exciting times with several huge advancements in OU work taking place...We the people have decided that enough is enough and we will enter the OU part of history very soon. The only question is it to late?

Karl

The Great question is: Are we standing united as one?

i don't think so.

**gmeast** · 11-04-2010, 01:45 AM

Pulsinator III and Hex Box.

Originally posted by Karl_Palsness View Post

There is a group that has worked on this with watkykjy and what has been discovered really works. This device is very similar to the Pulsinator III device. It is like the first stage Q1. From what I have seen so far the Pulsinator III device is way more advanced and works with better principals. If you are interested in what was discovered by watkykjy then study the Pulsinator III machine. If you where to have people arrive at your home and show you info that they should not have you also would act responsibly and be quite. That is not to bury or loose the technology but not to NOT endanger your family or yourself. There are people still working on this idea and it will not die...so look at he Pulsinator III device and you will see a lot of what was done with the hex in this machine now. As for the threat to people it is real, but if we stand united as one we will overcome. There are wolves dressed as sheep among this group so be careful that you don't get bit. We are living is very exciting times with several huge advancements in OU work taking place...We the people have decided that enough is enough and we will enter the OU part of history very soon. The only question is it to late?

Karl

Hi all,

I'd appreciate it if someone could steer me to Pulsinator III specs. Also, is there reliable info and specs on the toroid ?

I'm not bad at power electronics. I am still wondering why Microprocessor control is necessary. Tesla didn't use microprocessors you know? Also, is there some interdependence between a battery's ionic resonance and the toroid/circuit or can this drive a different load (not a charging load) or run another load in parallel with the charging battery (load)?

I've watched watkykjy's parts 1 - 4 of 4 and I'm still not clear on the relationship between the 1-3-5 Box outputs and the 120 deg spacing on the toroid primaries. Is the flux 'banging' back and forth between the firing segments or adding or what ? ... or what is it SUPPOSED to be doing ... in theory ?

Thanks in advance,

Greg

**Bit's-n-Bytes** · 11-04-2010, 02:17 AM

Originally posted by gmeast View Post

I'd appreciate it if someone could steer me to Pulsinator III specs. Thanks in advance,

Greg

Greg, take a look at the Use for tesla Switch thread. I have posted the drawing and theroy there. A team of us are still working through the details.

The concept is "Create it", "Use it", "Store it", "Use it", "Store it", etc.
We create the energy by pulsing a coil and "capturing" the "Flyback" (spike), then this "Radiant Energy" is stored in the capacitors, then used to pulse the next coil. This coils flyback is used to pulse the next coil, so forth and so on.
We cannot continue to drain the input batt, while trying to create OU. We must be able to do "Work" from another source", "The capacitors" and regain the energy "The Spike".

Hope this helps

Jeff

**crackahcrackah** · 11-04-2010, 04:47 AM

Originally posted by gmeast View Post

"previous suppression threats" ? You have got to be kidding ! I am getting so tired of this "suppression threats" crap. As long as everyone who has truly developed a valid OU technology uses this "threat" nonsense we will remain in the dark ages.

I would WELCOME any threats directed toward my development of a valid OU technology because then I would know for sure that I actually DO have IT.

I was awfully tired at the time I wrote my first reply and didn't have the stamina to add what I wanted to add. That is; the fact that you are using a toroid as part of your circuit changes things, and I think you may have stumbled onto something. I'd like to know what your charge rate is and some other details.

Greg

Here's the problem, for those who have been able to empirically produce results, they, to a large degree, have not carefully thought out about keeping their mouths shut, and only providing the directions and details anonymously. In Bob's case, he's provided every one with every thing they need to produce the effects without precision.

I have yet to personally get as far as what is shown in those video's but I've produced the effect with out precision. The effect is based on Tesla's high frequency patents. I could repeat this until I'm blue in the face but apparently people are too lazy to spend time reading about what Tesla did.

Aaron and a few others on here have also described the effect. It's what is obtained from DC impulses. Bob just had a microcontroller setup to take the effect beyond what can be produced with out a microcontroller. There's a paper by N. Zaev on the inductive conversion of thermal energy to electricity. It all ties together. And Bearden has also discussed this.

Really, there's no other conclusion that can be drawn other than that people want a fully working circuit handed to them. While some of us may have that in mind, we may not have the means to get there (intellectual or physical implediments, money really isn't an issue for this as the phenomenon can be produced with out precision for < ~$400).

Read Tesla's high frequency work. Read Tesla's high frequency work. Read Tesla's high frequency work. And did I forget to say Read Tesla's high frequency work.

**crackahcrackah** · 11-04-2010, 04:50 AM

Originally posted by cikljamas View Post

YouTube - Bob Boyce:Final conclusions
In this video it seems that this bob boyce project turned out to be a fraud...
But maybe if we could replicate that toroide, and use it with stingo...
What do you think about that ?

Those guys didn't know what they were doing. They couldn't even demonstrate on a step by step basis a confirmation of what they were doing. They posted that video as a result of frustration from not being able to do something that they couldn't follow directions for.

Bob's work is based on Tesla's work.

**Farmhand** · 11-04-2010, 05:58 AM

I was wondering if someone could tell me how long it would take that setup or a setup like that to charge a 1000 Ah battery bank to 14.4 volts. If it can't even do that it is really only a demonstration of what can be done for a while.

Batteries need to be charged fully to keep thier capacity, if a battery is drained below 12 volts it needs to recharged pronto, from what I can see this could be a viable way to prove overunity there is no better way than to use only one battery in my opinion.

I don't think i would be happy to wait overnight to recharge a 28 Ah battery to 13 volts from 12.8 volts though, thats not that usefull. My obsevations could be off but I think in vid 4 he says that by morning the battery would be 13 odd volts it was already 12.8 volts.

Maybe the accent caused me to missunderstand what he said.

Am I missing something?

Overunity device? Sure looks like it to me.

Regards
Andrew

**Aaron** · 11-04-2010, 06:02 AM

battery test

Originally posted by gmeast View Post

I certainly hope that when a verifiable system arrives on the scene that folks will accept it for what it is and not "... maybe a misunderstanding of whats going on ...".

At the same time though I have observed an effect that I am sure many have observed/experienced involving batteries, especially lead-acid batteries. This effect has sent many scrambling and clambering to declare that "They have IT".

If you let an 'undamaged' lead-acid battery just sit, the chemical reaction within will strain to reach a 'voltage' equilibrium, and depending upon the temperature, that could range from 13.3VDC to 13.6VDC, even being in a slightly discharged state. If you put even a small current load on it however that voltage will plummet.

So, when folks are diligently researching away, spiking their batteries with short duty-cycle pulses and seeing their battery voltages rise a little, they get all giddy and declare "OU !". It's just the battery recovering to a 'voltage' equilibrium. This usually follows a preceding cycle of discharge, work or something done to the 'healthy' battery.

If you suspect your battery has been charged by an OU effect, check the specific gravity of the battery first, and check it against the manufacturer's 'gravity vs temperature' charts before you go pricing your yacht, airplane, new car or new home.

I've heard of many broken hearts from folks who thought their bedini motors were OU just because of the latter effect.

Peace,

Greg

Greg,

I started to call that voltage a "fluffy charge" years ago because as
soon as you used it, it popped like a balloon. The voltage readings can
be misleading. Yes, it is the potential difference between the terminals
but is not an indication of the work it can do. And even after loading it
and "popping" that voltage, it can climb right back up as if it is an
electret similar to my high voltage shock oscillated caps (when the load
is removed).

However, I'd have to disagree a bit on the hydrometer tests as myself
and others that I know have found them to not be accurate. If working
with the cheap ones you can get at any car parts store, there are almost
no two alike that will show the same reading and a small change in the
reading is a big difference in what the battery can have.

So for me, the only thing I'd use one for is a general ballpark on a
scrap yard battery to see if it is worth taking or not but definitely not for
a precision test.

There are most expensive hydrometers that are fancy and expensive but
the best indication of what a battery has is to simply load it and see
what it gives over x amount of time down to a certain voltage.

And of course there are those that will complain if the load is too small
and claim it is unfair (Peukert), etc...

There is no test that will please everyone! lol

**ashtweth** · 11-04-2010, 06:07 AM

Hi Guys/Greg, understand where your coming from.

I have spoken to Johan before, he loads his battery and has been using it in his child's toy for a while. I also have a good mate who is his friend who testifies to this.

Bob states the stuff is dangerous tho, and is not ready or may not release it (idea is to work on creating safe conditions where it can be used) Johan already told me he nearly blew his washing machine up (house circuit) with an "avalanche" when working with the BB.

Any how, based on what i have seen, he has loaded the battery more than once, and i believe him.

Ash

**gmeast** · 11-04-2010, 06:14 AM

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