This is it !

[cikljamas]

hi cikljamas,

thanks for the schematics. I assume the 31.5uF capacitor is in the place of the 1uF capacitor shown in the bottom schematic?

And I am at a bit loss in understanding what you wrote:

The load is the same source battery, i am trying to charge the same battery
that i use at the same time as the source too...Capacitor is in parallel with
battery...

So you now in the last video do not use a separate source and charge battery but a source battery only and you charge the same single battery what runs your circuit, ok? Could you make from this a schematic, because your last sentence : "Capacitor is in parallel with battery" makes me puzzled... How can the cap have 200V when it is in parallel with the battery?

Please clarify these when you have time. I must finish now.

Thanks, Gyula

No, when i measure voltage of the capacitor i disconnect battery, when
i connect the battery capacitor and battery have the same voltage, but
those 200 V that capacitor gets from the circuit do they job somehow,
i am not so good in theory but this is how it should be explaining by
those who understand this radiant energy better than me...
rgds !

[cikljamas]

Originally Posted by gyula View Post
hi cikljamas,

thanks for the schematics. I assume the 31.5uF capacitor is in the place of the 1uF capacitor shown in the bottom schematic?

No, this is not how i put my capacitor, i just put it as i said in parallel
with battery without those diodes...In another thread i just asked
Sucahyo to tell me after long time that i hesitate to put that question
to him, what kind of capacitor we should put in that place in the schematic ...

[gyula]

No, when i measure voltage of the capacitor i disconnect battery, when
i connect the battery capacitor and battery have the same voltage, but
those 200 V that capacitor gets from the circuit do they job somehow,
i am not so good in theory but this is how it should be explaining by
those who understand this radiant energy better than me...
rgds !

Hi,

Well, if you disconnect from the battery the pulsed energy from the coil pumps up the voltage in the capacitor. And when you connect the battery, the same pulsed energy from the coil goes into the battery as current (I guess as a normal electron flow) so there can be no high voltage accumulated in the capacitor, the energy manifests as current. Question is whether you get less, equal or higher energy back from the pulsed coil than you invest into the circuit? This is what has not been proved beyond doubt...

In the disconnected case, when you have the 200V DC in the capacitor, you may wish to test whether the input current increases or stays around 60-70mA by using a loading resistor across the capacitor, for instance use a 10kOhm resistor rated for 1 or 2W dissipation. Another test would be when you increase the capacitor value towards 100uF and see how the stored voltage goes up and at what input current, then try loading the 100uF cap and see input power. All these tests would indicate how different or similar this circuit to other setups where the energy is regained from the collapsing magnetic field of a coil after current switchoff.

rgds, Gyula

[cikljamas]

In the disconnected case, when you have the 200V DC in the capacitor, you may wish to test whether the input current increases or stays around 60-70mA by using a loading resistor across the capacitor, for instance use a 10kOhm resistor rated for 1 or 2W dissipation. Another test would be when you increase the capacitor value towards 100uF and see how the stored voltage goes up and at what input current, then try loading the 100uF cap and see input power. All these tests would indicate how different or similar this circuit to other setups where the energy is regained from the collapsing magnetic field of a coil after current switchoff.

rgds, Gyula

My second (output) current meter is set up after capacitor, it means between
capacitor positive and battery positive, and i noticed that there is no change
of current value for example in favor of output current comparing it with input
current...It is the same value...Yesterday, i changed the toroid coil with
solenoid and that increase output current so now we should have the same current sharply on the output and input ( now it is 30 mA both) and watching
voltage of battery i can say we have better result, but we have not yet
achieved OU, because somehow there is still a slightly discharging...Over
night (12 hours) three 100ths of the V which is much better then yesterdays
three 100ths of the V in 7 hours, but this measurement are very inaccurate
because of several different reasons....The point is that this circuit is really
very, very close to OU, and now with this solenoid we have maybe COP = 0,98 instead of yesterdays 0,88 according to that formula (joule low) that
you used...Now, what do you think what would happen if i put that 100 uf
capacitor instead of this 31,5 uf ?...I have to go in town to buy it, and i am
going to do that in an hour or two, but if you see this post before i go let
me know what do you think will it do some improvement...
And to be honest i am not really sure how do you mean to put 10 k resistor
across the capacitor and then see the value of output current...

[gyula]

What I think with using 100uF instead of the 31.5uF is that you would get less than 200V and probably the input current goes up higher than 60mA...

The 10kOhm load comes parallel with the 31.5uF and I meant input current check, not output current...
I have no any other idea with this circuit to improve it, sorry.

Gyula

[cikljamas]

What I think with using 100uF instead of the 31.5uF is that you would get less than 200V and probably the input current goes up higher than 60mA...

The 10kOhm load comes parallel with the 31.5uF and I meant input current check, not output current...
I have no any other idea with this circuit to improve it, sorry.

Gyula

Thanks Gyula anyway...I am going to experiment further...
I hope we ll get somewhere with it...

[gmeast]

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It would be very nice if you elaborated this a little bit more or attach the links or pdf which could be of great help to get closer sight to thing that you are talking about with some precise and detailed practical info (how to stuffs)...I ll be glad to see your jpgs too, of course !
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I have begun. I am sourcing analog components. The circuit I am using to generate a Variable Frequency PWM is a bulletproof circuit comprised of simple low-cost components and it works ... every time. I have built these many times. The main components cost less than $1.00 each. We will need 3 of them for three frequencies ... < $3.00. Then there are some resistors and capacitors.

Some company called MAXIM put a circuit up on the internet to sell their stuff. This is Radio Shack-level stuff and is NOT proprietary and so here it is on my ftp:

http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/radian...hModulator.pdf

Now if you use a quad-op amp, you can have one VF PWM using 3 of the 4 op-amps on the IC for the VF PWM and use the fourth OP-Amp as a buffer and put some gain on it (or not) to drive hard a FET or Transistor. If you use a 10Mhz Quad Op-Amp then you can make nice, short, sharp, steep pulses that are perhaps 0.5% duty cycle at 50KHz (1/200). Can you believe it costs only $0.63 each in single quantities ?... And they are very available.

This is my starting point since my issue with the transformer remains unanswered and thus unresolved ... ah, to toroid or not to toroid ... that is the question ... 'tis better to ... oh, sorry.

Well, there ya go,

Greg

[Farmhand]

Hi greg, Sounds good, about the toroid I wonder If the secret could be the secondary, I mean the secondary can completely cover the primary/ primaries, is that relevent to flux usage or something?

Just a thought.

[gmeast]

secondary

Hi greg, Sounds good, about the toroid I wonder If the secret could be the secondary, I mean the secondary can completely cover the primary/ primaries, is that relevent to flux usage or something?

Just a thought.

Well in the video (opening video for this thread) he clearly says that the secondary is not used. The secondary in the Boyce toroid is 'normally' used to drive a Hydroxy cell. In this 'battery charging' application only the 3 non-synchronized primaries are used by the Hex Box. That means he was pulsing the primaries 'only' ... pulsing them with very short, HF pulses and staying way under the primaries' saturation threshold ... this is key I think.

So, doesn't it make sense that if you get rid of the secondary winding (don't even wind it) and wind the primaries directly on the core (tape down first of course), that there would be even BETTER coupling between the windings and the toroidal core ? This is just my simple way of thinking ... I mean the windings are closer to the core material ... ???. At first I got confused because the secondary was wound first on the core.

Is this what you were referring to or am I way off ?

Greg

[Farmhand]

Now i'm not sure, but I think the three primaries as used for battery charging were sycronised, one frequency. Not sure about the secondary being wound first though, I thought of that and winding half first, half later, I think I have seen before big OU claims somewhere with a toroid transformer. They are always taped up how to be sure what we see. I havn't got a core yet but I would wind the three primaries as you intend, secondary can be added later if you wanted to try something. I was thinking with the three different primaries were pulsed at different frequencies or degree the transformer effect to a secondary might be better and to completely cover the primaries, core all would let nothing escape.

I may be wrong but those are my thoughts at the moment. I think that was all, not much but oh well. I have a stereo amp but I can't read the numbers on the two massive componants. They're faded.

[crackahcrackah]

The Inventions, Researches, and Writings of Nikola Tesla

The inventions, researches and writings of Nikola Tesla, with special reference to his work in polyphase currents and high potential lighting : Martin, Thomas Commerford, 1856-1924 : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive


Download copies and PLEASE make hard copies when you can. This information is 100% tied in with what we're researching.

I think it would behoove the moderators to make a sticky thread which strictly contains links to such literature. It would improve the efficiency of this research community if there was a sticky, with links sorted, based upon the researcher, preferably with Tesla's work right smack at the top of the list, as he, more than any other researcher, has demonstrated a mastery of empirical research, which he put to productive use for the masses.

Happy reading.

[gmeast]

hard copy

The Inventions, Researches, and Writings of Nikola Tesla

The inventions, researches and writings of Nikola Tesla, with special reference to his work in polyphase currents and high potential lighting : Martin, Thomas Commerford, 1856-1924 : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive


Download copies and PLEASE make hard copies when you can. This information is 100% tied in with what we're researching.

I think it would behoove the moderators to make a sticky thread which strictly contains links to such literature. It would improve the efficiency of this research community if there was a sticky, with links sorted, based upon the researcher, preferably with Tesla's work right smack at the top of the list, as he, more than any other researcher, has demonstrated a mastery of empirical research, which he put to productive use for the masses.

Happy reading.

thanks, I'll try and archive it,

Greg

[gmeast]

The Inventions, Researches, and Writings of Nikola Tesla

The inventions, researches and writings of Nikola Tesla, with special reference to his work in polyphase currents and high potential lighting : Martin, Thomas Commerford, 1856-1924 : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

Ok, got it. My god what a HUGE amount of material ... 518 pages of, well, EVERYTHING. How much ink will this take to print I wonder ?

Greg

[Farmhand]

Finally i'm back, I think I overheated my modem , Data Burn Hehe.

Anyway I got it, very nice. Ahh chapter 23 anyone ?

[crackahcrackah]

Ok, got it. My god what a HUGE amount of material ... 518 pages of, well, EVERYTHING. How much ink will this take to print I wonder ?

Greg

Well, I buy my ink bulk and a reload my ink cartridges by hand so it doesn't cost much. It certainly didn't take up more than 1/2 of my lexmark black (50) ink cartridge. You can possibly just buy the material if you can find some place selling it, but that's more expensive and I'm on a shoe string budget.

You don't have to print it out. It's just that I push people to do so because paper copies are less susceptible to destruction than digital copies. I'm also concerned about making sure that such valuable material doesn't disappear.