This is it !

[Farmhand]

Hi Greg, I bought the PIC board but I had no intention of using it for this project, just to learn about it and what they can do. I am unsure what i will do now, I still need a heat gun or to work out some way to melt this wax before i can complete the secondary winding.

I hope someone can help you with what you outlined below. I can see some is english, i'm not sure what it all means though.

Hi,

Is anyone out there any good with logic gates and gate combinations?

I have 2 inputs S & R and a need to set a latch on S=0 & R=doesn't matter. Then when S=1 and R=1 the output is 1. Then when S=1 and R=0, the latch is reset and we wait for S=0 again. Now after S=1 and R=0 (the reset condition) S will always = 1 and R will periodically change state from R=1 to R=0 and the only next S state change is S=0 (the set condition again). And there is an invalid state for S and R as well and may be a useful condition for analysis. When S=0, R can never=1 because they are synch'd to the clock. So: when S=0 then R<>1 ... ever. But if you feel it should NOT be ignored then if anything the output should be 0 ... so: 'if' S=0 and R=1 then Output=0.
[EDIT]So the correct way to stat the invalid condition would be when S=0 and R=1. There.

Here are two pictures with the clock slowed way down so I can watch the clock via LEDs. The green trace is S and the yellow trace is R:
http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/radian...ing/clock1.JPG
http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/radian...ing/clock2.JPG

I ended up with a truth table that was really too complex. This should have a simple solution set ... seems to me.

Thanks in advance if you choose to help me. Later

[Farmhand]

Hey Bob, Glad you're still here, I have a question about the wax, should the wax be actually melted in there to completely fill the spaces between the radial parts of the windings and the outside face ? To just below the top of the wire. I mean with a heat gun would I be actually melting the wax or just softening it enough to work it in good ?

I don't have a heat gunny thing so i'm trying to think of a way to do it without one. I won't mess around unless I think I have a viable method. I will get one if I actually need it though. And I think I might.

Hope those questions make sense. I'm a bit anxious to do something, but I am prepared to wait.

Thanks

[RedRightHand]

Other Options

Bob,

Did you know there are other ways to get your information 'out there' and helping humanity right away?

If you exchange this information with a knowledgeable IT person they can do many things to make it totally untraceable. You could be totally changing the world tomorrow if you wished... you are one email away. I understand your government will kill you if they trace it, but the WORLD needs this, so this method keeps you alive.

Of course you could always just post it right here, in this thread, while on vacation out of the USA. Six months later USA will be screaming for you to return for a medal! And you could claim IP and receive at least 5% Gross Revenue.

There are so many ways you could do this Bob...

The only other answer I can see is you are waiting for a secret patent to expire, thinking that one day you might be able to go commercial. It ain't gonna happen! Release now, so you can receive the awards and recognition you deserve BEFORE you die.

If you want to know more about how to release this material wikileaks style, just PM me.

You have many many options Bob, I hope you choose the right one that serves humanity first, and $$$ / FEAR second. Remember you can always go offshore.

Red

[cikljamas]

aaa !!!

Hi all !!!

Ok, Bob, i hope Greg and others could use your new infos to get closer
to our goal (what ever it is, i thought its OU, but i am not sure any more),
but how about this :
It seems that these stuffs of yours, as you said are very expensive and
hardly obtainable, and i ask myself what good could come out from it if just
few of us would be able to obtain, develop and use your devices even if
we suppose that you gave us this very moment all infos we need for assembling such device ???

I mean if you are expert, and obviously you are, come on, ease our pain,
or feed our hunger, or console our sorrow by telling us how to use some
simplercircuit which any electronic
sucker like me would be able to assemble right NOW and spread all over internet community
glorifying your immortal name...

For example Sucahyo made "stingo" (solid state charger), and stingo has
efficiency about 60 %, i made similar circuit "bingo" with has efficiency
about 75 % charging lead acid batterys, stingo is better for smaller
batteries according to my experience, and bingo is better for larger batt.
cause it seems that bingo has just too big current output for smaller
batteries, Farmhand gave us schematic of one superb desulfator on the
base of 4001/4011 chip, and his efficiency is about 80 % charging big
batteries in positive - negative mode, and if we could make very simple
circuits with such a good efficiencies than i am SURE
that you can give us schematic of some very, very SIMPLE circuit too with lets say 95 % of
efficiency and after you gave us this schematic we would be happy to play with it and nobody could say that
you disclosed OU stuff, because it is not going to be OU ...

There is Bedini solid state oscillator but nobody knows the secret of his
PWM, and i do not know efficiency number of that device...

Or what do you say about this :
15KV 30mA 110vac Neon Sign Transformer Solid State (eBay item 180253814390 end time 30-Jan-11 09:32:54 AEDST) : Business Industrial

If you look the specs in this page there you are going to find claims
of 400 % of efficiency, and if that is the true how come that it is
available on the market since it is four time OU, not just one time ?

So, technology is here, we could even buy it, but there is so much
suckers that do not know how to combine it and make working device...

And now i use this opportunity to ask real expert like you, what do you
suggest us to make (SIMPLE, AND OBTAINABLE)or buy (like device from
above link) in order to make something that is OU, or at least close to
that ?

Dont you tell me the same words that i already saw 1000 time before :
Well, sorry, but i just have to improve some details, etc...

I do not buy this kind of words any more, not from expert like you are !
And i warn you : if you disappoint me too, i will be very, very sad !

You know, this situation is like somebody claims : i can lift up 100 Kg,
and you give him 80 kg, and then turns out he can not lift up 80 kg...
It is kind of test for you, but it is not the main purpose of it, but if
you do not show us some simple circuit that you have in your mind
(you do not even have to dig in your papers for that) how do you
expect that we are going to believe that you are able to produce
such marvelous devices which are OU stuffs ?

Maybe it is not important to you what we shall believe or not, but
if we talk it is inevitable that i or somebody else ask you something
like this, is it not ?...Well, i just ask you, and now i would like to see
ELECTRONIC BOB IN ACTION, instead of DIPLOMATIC BOB IN INACTION...

I hope you have not understood me wrong, i just ask what is in my heart...
At least i am honest to you, i do not play games, i just ask maximum
openly what i think is of the most importance in this very moment..

It means : if you can not give us 1000 000$ stuff, give us 10 000 $ stuff...

Or it is not appropriate to ask someone to give others anything if he or she
himself does not want or is not aware of demand of the moment ?

But i do not care if it is inappropriate, cause it is in accordance with my
conscience, and after all, i can not stop you to be diplomatic bob in inaction, can i ?

My conscience would be disturb if i did not ask you above questions,
and now i can rest in peace

Thanks in advance !

[gmeast]

closer

Hi all !!!

Ok, Bob, i hope Greg and others could use your new infos to get closer
to our goal (what ever it is, i thought its OU, but i am not sure any more),
but how about this ................................................

Hi cycleman,

The response is "yes" I can make use of the info' Bob has kindly provided here. The information he has provided narrows the 'tuning window' considerably. As Bob alluded to: ... the bad guys surely already know what to 'tune to' and want to find out who else knows.

Great progress has recently been made here, not on the technical level, but on the intellectual and spiritual level. Bob's appearance and participation in this thread has 'cleared the air' (as far as I'm concerned). Also it is most beneficial to have 'everyone on board' in some capacity. And that is what we now have. It is the substance of this thread's 'recent progress'.

Now, I still would appreciate some help with something. Below is an earlier post of mine:

Hi,

Is anyone out there any good with logic gates and gate combinations?

I have 2 inputs S & R and a need to set a latch on S=0 & R=doesn't matter. Then when S=1 and R=1 the output is 1. Then when S=1 and R=0, the latch is reset and we wait for S=0 again. Now after S=1 and R=0 (the reset condition) S will always = 1 and R will periodically change state from R=1 to R=0 and the only next S state change is S=0 (the set condition again). And there is an invalid state for S and R as well and may be a useful condition for analysis. When S=0, R can never=1 because they are synch'd to the clock. So: when S=0 then R<>1 ... ever. But if you feel it should NOT be ignored, then if anything, the output should be 0 ... so: 'if' S=0 and R=1 then Output=0.
[EDIT]So the correct way to state the invalid condition would be when S=0 and R=1. There.

Here are two pictures with the clock slowed way down so I can watch the clock via LEDs. The green trace is S and the yellow trace is R:
http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/radian...ing/clock1.JPG
http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/radian...ing/clock2.JPG

I ended up with a truth table that was really too complex. This should have a simple solution set ... seems to me.

Thanks in advance if you choose to help me. Later

I still would appreciate some help here. Thanks in advance.

[Farmhand]

Wax on.

The goal is to warm the core enough to allow the wax to flow in and displace all of the air between the secondary windings and the core. Fill in between the windings, and use tools to press at the wax between windings to fine tune the side alignment of each winding. Keep the matching spacers in place around the perimeter with tape as you make sure that the wax flows in around those as well. Once totally aligned, slowly work in more softened wax until the level of the wax between the windings is up to the level of the windings themselves. Allow the core to cool to make the wax firmer and shave the wax to even out and smooth as required. Then wrap with tape in preparation for the primaries.

I think I can make that happen.

Thanks Bob. Much appreciated.

[sucahyo]

It's hardly free energy. I don't know about others, but the materials to build my prototypes cost me plenty

I am only suggesting to add few wire to your cheapest coil switching device and attach it to your self or your bed and to a plastic water bucket.

Mine cost under $2 and it can help my family and Godfrey family to sleep better. It help improve my wife health condition. I can use it to stop light flues. I don't see a reason why anyone else can't.

I don't know why you mention it as not free energy, but I see some future in orgone use in free energy. At least I replace all my fuel line magnet with my own orgone device. At least cheaper fuel for me. The other functionality still unproven, but getting spark on unpowered Joe Cell is common. No one know how to convert it yet and get it by accident.

The health effects of various devices are really determined by the sort of energy involved, and the spectrum they emit or absorb. Many orgone accumulator type devices, like Joe Cells, draw orgone band energy from living oranisms. This results in a loss of life energy and can encourage disease to set in when operated in close proximity to humans or animals.

It has nothing to do with EM frequency. I don't know where you heard joe cell that do that, but from what I know, Joe Cell can be used to produce two kind of energy, inflow and outflow. The outflow produce headache, the inflow allow fuelles operation. outflow clear the fog, inflow draw the fog or rain.

I think if you connect your device to antenna, you might influence weather too. If you attract black helicopter then yours may produce male orgone, the one that produce headache, the one that accelerate cancer. If you get heavy fog around then yours may produce female orgone. Would be very interested if yours do not produce that effect. Maybe neutral orgone is the key. Alumunium said to produce interaction with orgone egenerator, and I recall you put it inside alumunium box. I wonder what happen if you layer the outside of alumunium box with wood. Maybe none, maybe something.


I find type of effect to be less complicated than what you mention. Changing my radiant sleeping polarity change sleeping effect to energy boosting effect. Changing my stingo motor rotation change the energy from headache producing to non headache producing. Three friend from different country mention different feel at change of rotation direction.

I do not operate devices in the orgone energy band, but prefer to use the gaia energy band. This means that instead of interacting with living organisms, I prefer to use spectrum that may only interact with atomic elements.

I don't know what you mean. You talk as if orgone frequency is detectable, I am not even sure there are device that can measure orgone energy. And from the info you mention previously you seems to think that orgone device is monopolar.

It would be great if you can share it. Ashweth and a friend still trying to make a device that detect orgone. It seems to work based from geiger counter.


I use ice. An easy test to know orgone device polarity is by freezing a water near it. male version produce foggy ice, female version produce clear ice. I can show some example for it.

Or easy test, put flat spiral coil vertical in a water container and then freeze it. Small coil will still work, better if from insulated copper, don't power it, don't put the water container near battery, magnet or crystal. You will see one side produce clear ice and other side produce foggy ice. different kind of ice from something without voltage and without magnetism.



My intention to ask you to research for health use is I believe that yours already producing orgone energy. You can use it to help improve your health condition.

Reference from Garry Vassilatos's Tesla, Bob Beck, Lee Crock's MWO and Karl Reichenbach. If you link it with cancer, with Hulda Clark's South pole polarity of cancer patients.

If you don't believe me, at least please see if connecting the alumunium box to non grounded water produce better feel than to earth ground or no connection at all..

[gmeast]

no help

No help on the logic gates I guess. OK fine then.

[WeThePeople]

Sorry, I cannot ease your pain...
Bob Boyce

On that topic Bob,
are you following this ?

James Walbert
"Inventor James Walbert unwanted implant case first to court"

Achieve Radio Archive Vault playing Cash Flow from 2010-09-21--1200

He also has had RFID's removed intact
and sealed in a surgical enviroment
to retain a chain of evidence for a lawsuit.

Perhaps you two could join together
for the cause of freedom from this tactic ?

References:
News:Archive:2010ecember - PESWiki
James.Walbert +Implant - Google Search

[7imix]

No help on the logic gates I guess. OK fine then.

Hey man, I'd love to help, but I don't have enough info on what you are doing. If I could visualize it then I could help better. I'll try to re-read your original description when I can concentrate more and see if I can understand better...

[7imix]

I am only suggesting to add few wire to your cheapest coil switching device and attach it to your self or your bed and to a plastic water bucket.
.

I think maybe you misunderstood, he was making a joke... If this is free energy then how come all the parts to make a working device are so expensive...

[Farmhand]

Hi all, i made a bit of progress straightening things out, i'm thinking about putting in the oven at 60 degrees for a while, I don't have enough wax to submerse the whole thing in melted wax. Unless, maybe if I melt the wax in something just a tad bigger than the diameter of the transformer then put something in the center just a tad smaller than the hole to displace some wax. I might have enough then. Anyhow a couple of pic's.

Although I didn't have any beer I did have a beer holder, so I used it to hold the windings. And drank whiskey. Na just kiddin about the whiskey.

http://kobcsq.bay.livefilestore.com/...001.JPG?psid=1

http://kobcsq.bay.livefilestore.com/...002.JPG?psid=1

I put on the leads a 2 inch piece of heatshrink on each one and a 4 inch piece over both, but i haven't shrunk the latter yet till I see if I can get some fibre insulation.

Cheers

[Farmhand]

Transformer Core's

Hi Bob, I have another question or two about toroidal transformers in general. I figured I would ask you since you're here and i'm very interested, These T650 core's.

Are they good for normal transformer uses ?

I'm interested to build an actual working replica somewhat scaled down of Tesla's dynamo electric machine, I was thinking of using these T650 cores, but then I figured one of these core's might not work so well to wind the field coils of a small generator on.

What I mean is would it be better to use laminated iron/steel to wind the field coils of the generator on or a powdered iron core. Like in the drawing below the generator uses the outer coils energised by the exciter for it's function.

What would be the best material for that use ?

And the transformer itself would be only low frequency I imagine.

What would be the best material for that allround I mean, maybe for bigger one's too ?

http://peswiki.com/images/c/c5/US390721.png

Sorry about the strange somewhat off topic questions. Couldn't help myself.

Cheers

[cikljamas]

Exactly. Maybe it is a language or cultural barrier thing that keeps us on different pages. It is frustrating sometimes when people do not understand what I am trying to say.

When I say it's not free energy, I'm referring to the financial costs of doing the research or building the devices. Not that the energy flow that results costs me anything once it's built, tuned, and operating.

Bob Boyce

Bob, thank you very much for your answer to my last post, and
thank you very much for all you former and future answers in this
thread, it means much to all of us but i must continue in my childish
manner (since i am kind of never growing up child) and try to make
one thing clear :

Well, lets underline this sentence of yours :

Not that the energy flow that results costs me anything once it's built, tuned, and operating.

1. How much it would cost me to make Watkykjy (Yours in fact) stuff (battery charging device witch is OU) ?

2. Is there simpler way to build such device or at least could we make it without microcontroller ?

3. How in the world you have no schematic that could help us (since one
image paints a thousand words) to ease our pain ?

I mean, i just do not understand one thing : It seems that you famous
guys once that you become famous you just lose your youth enthusiasm
and all that you are prepare to do after that point of your lives (when
you became famous) is to direct someone to someones other projects ???

Do i have wrong impression about that ?

Maybe you are so famous that it would not be possible if you try to
content all curious men in the world that want to come to target point
without enough sweating, but what is the point if those guys who knows
the secrets do not want to tell their secrets to those guys who do not
knows these secrets ?

Should we always discover fire/wheel/electricity from the very beginning ?

You famous guys seems to hate schematics and things like that, it reminds
me to one funny fact : all doctors in the world without exception have
sick form of handwriting like the illness of their patients transferred into
their handwriting...

And thanks that you admitted that once that the energy flow it costs you nothing once it's built, tuned, and operating.

At least we know that its built, tuned, and operating.

But, unfortunately, we knew it long time ago !

And now we would like to experience some different kind of enlightenment !

Cheers !

[gmeast]

without microcontroller

Bob, thank you very much for your answer to my last post, and
thank you very much for all you former and future answers in this
thread, it means much to all of us but i must continue in my childish
manner (since i am kind of never growing up child) and try to make
one thing clear :

Well, lets underline this sentence of yours :


1. How much it would cost me to make Watkykjy (Yours in fact) stuff (battery charging device witch is OU) ?

2. Is there simpler way to build such device or at least could we make it without microcontroller ?

3. How in the world you have no schematic that could help us (since one
image paints a thousand words) to ease our pain ?

I mean, i just do not understand one thing : It seems that you famous
guys once that you become famous you just lose your youth enthusiasm
and all that you are prepare to do after that point of your lives (when
you became famous) is to direct someone to someones other projects ???

Do i have wrong impression about that ?

Maybe you are so famous that it would not be possible if you try to
content all curious men in the world that want to come to target point
without enough sweating, but what is the point if those guys who knows
the secrets do not want to tell their secrets to those guys who do not
knows these secrets ?

Should we always discover fire/wheel/electricity from the very beginning ?

You famous guys seems to hate schematics and things like that, it reminds
me to one funny fact : all doctors in the world without exception have
sick form of handwriting like the illness of their patients transferred into
their handwriting...

And thanks that you admitted that once that the energy flow it costs you nothing once it's built, tuned, and operating.

At least we know that its built, tuned, and operating.

But, unfortunately, we knew it long time ago !

And now we would like to experience some different kind of enlightenment !

Cheers !

Hi cycleman,

Have you even read what I recently posted in reply to a 7imix post? In that I have given a 'verbal' functional diagram of what I think will be a way of doing it without the micro. I have also asked for some help with a logic gate challenge that can help me reduce the 'part count' ... but there's no offers on that ... I guess there are actually almost no participants left in this group now and/or no one knows anything about logic gates ... obviously I don't know enough ... wish I knew more.

Later