This is it !

[gmeast]

I get it

I think when using timing componants resonance of the actual controller and circuit is likely, where with a digital preciscion controller the resonance may be limited to other parts of the circuit and difficult to find. The timing resistors and caps can all fall into harmonious syncronisity which promotes phase locking I think.

Sounds good anyway

Ok found it, here is a shot of the three pulses before I connected the fets, I bussed the three outputs together through some 1N4148 diode's and some 330 ohm resistors with a 2 k resistor to ground probed between the resistors.

http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/...004.JPG?psid=1

That was a small gap and wide pulses. Before i worked out how to trim the differences. The 4047 chips and 4011's and stuff need to have at least 1 K resistance for the timing section. So The PW is restricted by that and the timing cap, 1 k and 0.001 uf give a PW of about 600ns PW, 2k and 0.001 uf gives about 877ns PW and 2k and 2 x 0.001 uf give's about 1.6 us PW and so forth, it works out pretty neat, a 50 K reistor for the frequency gives a space (forgot the time) which works out to a phase locked frequency of about 21 Khz with any of those PW's.

I thought what you came up with might be simpler to operate. I'm already spoiled by the PPC and will get it out to you as soon as I can.

Later

[pmazz850]

Hello,
I don't know if you've seen this video but it mentions the pulse configuration, could be important. 1,2,3 1,2,1 1,2,3, 1,2,1
The Pulse Configuration Of The Hex Controller | FreeEnergyTV

I'm also trying to dig up some photos i had seen of watkykjy's chokes. They were good photo's so i'm gonna hunt them down for you. Keep up the good work.

[gmeast]

sequence

Hello,
I don't know if you've seen this video but it mentions the pulse configuration, could be important. 1,2,3 1,2,1 1,2,3, 1,2,1
The Pulse Configuration Of The Hex Controller | FreeEnergyTV

I'm also trying to dig up some photos i had seen of watkykjy's chokes. They were good photo's so i'm gonna hunt them down for you. Keep up the good work.

Hi pmazz850,

Thanks. Yes ... I have seen this. According to Bob Boyce that is quite specific to Hydroxy production and has little to do with the self-charging investigation being carried out here, HOWEVER ... thanks for reminding me because the PPC (Poly Phase Controller) I've built for this task is also capable of screwy sequences like "1,2,3 1,2,1 1,2,3, 1,2,1" and can handle it quite easily. I must keep remembering to include that capability as one of the 'base-configuration' since the PPC could also be used in Hydroxy production ... something I know nothing about except that I build a 'Smack' Booster once and it sucked power pretty badly ... a real energy hog. Things have advanced greatly since then, I am aware.

Thanks again. Later

[Farmhand]

I thought what you came up with might be simpler to operate. I'm already spoiled by the PPC and will get it out to you as soon as I can.

No definately not easier. But workable. The thing is with digital control the controller is not really influenced by the circuit, which is good. As long as the resolution is fine enough.

I connected a 470 uf cap to the toroid common and ground, this way the supply choke charges the cap and the cap discharges through the coil, which make a more powerfull discharge I think. Seems to make it a little bit more pingy.

Cheers

[gmeast]

first glimps

Hi all,

This is kind of exciting. The following scope capture is of a phase angle relationship that appears to be one that self-charges.

The operational frequency is 21kHz and the PW is 2.48usec.

The Toroid's Coils are turned Counter Clockwise. The B+ choke is 45-mix Clockwise. The (recovery) choke is 52-mix Counter Clockwise.

The 'firing order' you see in the scope capture is Counter Clockwise around the Toroid ... left-most phase is Ph-1 then Ph-2 and Ph-2 going to the right. The 3 phases are very asymmetrically spaced as you can see. The one and only expert I know has alluded to (something like) this as being necessary in order to coax Longitudinal Energy to flow.

The scope capture is here:
http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/radian...ing/asym1a.png

I'm going to let this run for a couple of days. Have a great Week End .

Later

[gmeast]

non-Hertzian

Hi all,

I wanted to add, that in my last post showing the 3-phases and their 'strange' phase relationships, this likely produces the 'very necessary' non-Hertzian conditions that I suspect are critical to "elicit" the flow of Longitudinal Energy in our realm.

I have been skimming through various internet resources for articles relating to both Non-Hertzian waves? (??? a seeming contradiction considering "waves" implies periodicity of some sort) and also to Longitudinal Energy. I have found 'peer reviewed' papers on both of these topics coming from the mainstream. So this stuff is real, but soon or maybe right now ... just like with cold fusion ... you will start finding researchers that will build academic careers based on this stuff as well as universities, the world over, patenting what you're seeing here now and being paid for by those who do NOT care about you, me, the starving, the freezing, the parched, the homeless, or the powerless masses. When that happens, these same technologies will never 'see the light of day' ... they will remain as research-careers for academic and political slime forevermore. We just cannot allow this to happen.

So, support my efforts by sending a check or money order to: .................. I'M KIDDING !!!!

I don't know the answers to preventing this ... do you?

Later





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[gmeast]

11,338Hz

Hi all,

Of course I had to keep messing around with stuff, so ...

I explored some stability issues, in the limited time I have these days, and decided to lower the operational frequency a bit. I realized that there is an 'aggregate' frequency of 3X the operational frequency because of the 3- phases ... so my 21kHz of the previous post is actually 63kHz, albeit not a symmetrical 3-phase. It was 'way too' very easy for thing to start jumping around ... thus the reduction in frequency.

The scope capture below is of the setup running at 11.338kHz for an aggregate of 34.014kHz ... which I think is a better place to start ... just because. The rest of the parameters remain the same as the asym1a.png setup. I have also taken some preliminary temperature readings and am showing a Joule-heating resulting in more than a 5-degF temperature differential with the table it's sitting on. Both thermocouple probe and a Fluke 561HVACPro in IR mode were used. The IR was used on a patch with the same 'layering' of tape as the big Toroid itself (black vinyl electrical tape, 2-layers of the yellow wrapping tape) and at a controlled distance in accordance with the IR device's 'proper use' instructions in the data sheet.

After my farting around using up battery juice, it settled in at 12.58VDC. It's been that way for the last 12 hours, running the setup with all instrumentation disconnected. The DVM is periodically turned 'ON' to monitor battery voltage.

The scope capture is here:
http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/radian...2a_11338Hz.png

Interesting: Note in the span at about 85usec to 95usec (abs.), something is being synthesized right after phase 3.

I suppose I'll continue to monitor the 'heating' temperatures and after a while I power down, measure each coil's resistance and then attempt to compute the energy attributed to Joule-heating. The power computed from this will be part of some preliminary COP>1? determinations ... though it's too early to determine anything of substance really.

Later

[gmeast]

one thing different

Hi all,

There is a difference between my setup and the setups watkykjy ran in his videos (also aside from my controller vs Bob Boyce's Hex Controller). In my setup, I have a 45mix choke between the Toroid 'common' and B+ whereas watkykjy did not use any at that location in his video0 (found on his channel) nor his video1-4 for this thread.

I think I will dare bypass that choke (eventually) but I should first swap that choke ... which is a 'Clockwise' choke for a 45-mix 'Counter Clockwise' choke ... I'm doing that now.

...No real noticeable difference.
I can honestly say that I am NOT charging like watkykjy in his video, but I've only begun to fight.

Now removing the B+ choke ...

The 'ringing' oscillations are much higher frequency and I am getting some better results ... and that's only subjective because I'm only now beginning to get a 'feel' for this setup.

Later

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[7imix]

Thanks for the updates! Very interesting.

[gmeast]

non-Hz

Hi all,

Sorry to be making so many posts, but I have been seeing some trends that might suggest what to tune for in a poly-phase system. Since we can't see Longitudinal Waves? per se, it might be possible to set up conditions that would allow Longitudinal to flow. As I happily 'tune' away, I keep seeing non-repeating patterns within a pulse period (which is 1 swirl of the Toroid).

Maybe we want to be 'tuning' to something that isn't very pretty like what's shown in the scope captures below. The 1st picture is with the B+ Choke and the second picture is without a B+ choke:

http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/radian...g/non-Hz1a.png
http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/radian...g/non-Hz1b.png

If you look along the green line beginning with the PPC's pulse I use to synch the first phase, you can see some noise in the form of 3 little grouped negative-going spikes. These locate the other two phases, and they seem to be somewhat evenly spaced along the pulse train.

This isn't as 'Non-Hertzian' as I think it needs to be, but there are some oscillations along the pulse train that are 'jammed' together and others that are 'spread' apart such as around 16usec through 18usec (abs.). This mess just stays put on the scope and doesn't jump around any at all. The second scope capture is even better I think ... filled with more Non-Hertzian stuff.

I don't know ... just some more possible (hopeful) things to look for or tune for. Oh, the PPC's operational frequency is 40kHz and the PW is 520nsec (0.520usec). The actual PW from the FET is really around 750nsec ... it lags a little turning off, but I think it's good enough.

Hope you're enjoying the saga. Later

[gmeast]

Ucc27322

Hi all,

The FET driver board I am using is the simplest implementation of an IRF540Z MOSFET and the UCC27322 gate driver chip in that I'm using the fewest additional on-board components, etc. There is a problem in handling a loss of signal to the xx22's pin2 (signal input pin). In circuit, if the signal to pin2 is lost, then, for some reason, the FET it is driving locks 'full-on' and you end up losing the FET and its driver chip.

I have tried (minimum) implementations to solving this such as placing 10k bias resistors to gnd on both the driver's pin2 and the FET gate to 'shut them down' in the event of an LOS. I suspect the answer lies in the portion of the data sheet talking about "decoupling". I have yet to damage any of the PPC's output components seeing as though the xx22 driver chip is 'the' interfacing component between the logic-level PPC and the Power MOSFET ... that being the case then, I guess you can say the driver chip is doing its job very well. No complaints there.

So, does anyone have any insights as to a solution to this problem ... other than the one I have adopted ... and that is ... 'to make sure there is NO loss of signal from PPC to xx22 gate driver ...'?

Thanks in advance. Later

[gmeast]

PPC video

Hi all,

The video showing my test setup using the PPC to pulse the Micrometals T650-52 core is here:

YouTube - on the way to a self-charging battery circuit

Thanks. Later

[gmeast]

helllloooooo

The silence is deafening.

[skaght]

I just watched your video...It's an impressive device for phase adjustment on the fly! I'm assuming you're working towards power in/power out calculations with battery charging?

[ashtweth]

Greg dont forget the B-Hex yahoo forum where Johan (who rep Bob's Hex) frequents, they will be VERY interested in this Bro

Ash