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  • Al cell

    Originally posted by ibpointless2 View Post
    Here is my simple home made captret.

    What you need:

    aluminum foil
    pop bottle
    salt
    water

    I have it hooked up to a dead 12 volt battery and the outer case (-) to top positive it is whats inside the battery (5.40 volts) but the outer case to captret connection (o) it is little lower (5.37 volts).
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    dude, build a bi filar coil with 2 layers of Al.

    What you have is Al cell battery lacking the cathode and the Al anode will be consumed quickly.

    You need ethylene glycol - ionic conducting fluid. Antifree!

    Follow my DIY, can't post pis coz @ work. will do so later.
    Last edited by electricity; 11-16-2010, 10:35 PM.

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    • Now we're getting somewhere.

      I made a new homemade captret but this time much different. I took another pop bottle and cut the top off. placed aluminum foil around the outside and aluminium foil around the inside, completely around. Then made a small strip of aluminum foil and hung it from the top down to the middle.

      To sum it up
      The negative (the outside) is the same size as the captret (around the inside), but the positive is smaller then both and its in middle with the captret foil but not touching it.

      So what happen?
      The battery has 5.39 volts in it, but when you read the negative and the captret(O) it reads 5.41 volts. And of course when you read the - to + of the capacitor it reads 5.39 volts just like whats in the battery.

      It seems we can increase the voltage, kind of like a step up transformer.
      All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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      • Ok, you don't need to put salt into it you only need water. Salt might corrode the aluminium foil. Thanks electricity

        The newest captret has a smaller negative on the outside and about the same size positive in the middle. The captret part is bigger then both. The voltage in battery is 5.38 volts, but negative to captret it goes up to 5.50 volts. So the bigger the captret foil and the smaller the negative and positive the higher the voltage.

        This could be where the self charging is coming from, because you need higher voltage to charge and thats what the captret is doing.
        All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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        • Originally posted by ibpointless2 View Post
          Ok, you don't need to put salt into it you only need water. Salt might corrode the aluminium foil. Thanks electricity

          The newest captret has a smaller negative on the outside and about the same size positive in the middle. The captret part is bigger then both. The voltage in battery is 5.38 volts, but negative to captret it goes up to 5.50 volts. So the bigger the captret foil and the smaller the negative and positive the higher the voltage.

          This could be where the self charging is coming from, because you need higher voltage to charge and thats what the captret is doing.
          Bi filar is proper geometry, see Tesla's thermodynamics about the aether and Faradays contiguous aether particles and lines of induction.

          Eric Dollard also designed a ZPE antenna utilizing the the same shape.

          These are my speculations, tell you this, I made a plate capacitor, it does not charge!

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          • Excellent.

            Originally posted by ibpointless2 View Post
            Ok, you don't need to put salt into it you only need water. Salt might corrode the aluminium foil. Thanks electricity

            The newest captret has a smaller negative on the outside and about the same size positive in the middle. The captret part is bigger then both. The voltage in battery is 5.38 volts, but negative to captret it goes up to 5.50 volts. So the bigger the captret foil and the smaller the negative and positive the higher the voltage.

            This could be where the self charging is coming from, because you need higher voltage to charge and thats what the captret is doing.
            To take it further balance the mass of the neg and pos then use a piece (o) 4 times the surface area as one of the + or - plates but of the same mass weight of the other plates. This should make a huge amplitude of the potential of the battery hopefully as per Tesla. That might be reversed but either way it should work..

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            • Originally posted by LaserSaber View Post
              The question "is this free energy" is carried over from my previous video. It's just the question that is driving my research on the Captret at the moment. I will rename the video to cut down on possible confusion. YouTube - Testing the Captret part two.
              @ Laser Saber,

              it has to be said, your latest video about the captret is a joy to watch. Clear, precise and no wild speculations.

              I hope you keep up your good work in-midst of the weird stuff usually going on in these threads.

              About the amount of energy one can get out of a chemical battery:

              Specially with "home made batteries" but also with commercially availbale "chemical batteries" I observed that

              - one can get a lot of short energy bursts out of a battery.

              - In sum total the electric energy released by short bursts seems to be higher than one can get with a continuous drain of e.g. 100 Milliwatt.

              - Specially chemical batteries which are almost depleted or very week electro chemical reactions can still give short energy bursts but no continuous current.

              My speculation is, that electro chemistry just works better in bursts. And a captret circuit like Laser Saber is showing in his latest video YouTube - Testing the Captret part two. might allow to take advantage of this effect when lighting LEDs.

              To speculate further, also a Bedini Motor or other pulse motors seem to draw benefits from this effect because they run on "energy bursts"; or the "Stubblefield Magnet Motors" Laser Saber shows in his Stubblefield videos, e.g. look at YouTube - lasersaber's Channel.

              Greetings, Conrad

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              • Originally posted by Jbignes5 View Post
                What I have learned is exactly what Tesla was saying. He says that you don't need current. You only need a way to induce voltage in a conductor then hook each part to a cap to keep the separation between the two potentials....
                ... I would also suggest we fit in balanced mass antenna's with different surface area to pull in real charges from the environment.

                So how does that sound so far?

                The Antenna part i already suggested in post #202

                Finally i would suggest a 2 meter long loose wire (antenna) to either one of the posts ( The Tesla electric car "antenna" ;-)
                I do think that Tesla's electric car could be powered with this concept.
                Either a small long lasting input like Laserber is doing, or even the whole circuit powered by natural differences pick up from ambient.

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                • video of my homemade captret stepping up the voltage.

                  YouTube - Homemade Captret acts like a step up transformer
                  All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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                  • Not exactly sure how one works so maybe we could get one of the Tesla switch guys to comment on this. Does the captret act like a Tesla switch?

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                    • Oh yes.

                      Originally posted by redrichie View Post
                      Not exactly sure how one works so maybe we could get one of the Tesla switch guys to comment on this. Does the captret act like a Tesla switch?
                      Yes it does. It works off of only one polarity and the potential difference of that polarity between two places in the circuit.

                      Guys I watched a video yesterday about a man who broke the code for quantum physics. Very enlightening. He explained how charges can be compressed, increasing their charge level (voltage) and I think that is what is going on in a capacitor. Since caps can be burst charged and discharged this is the effect we see like sparking and arcs. This also explains the capacitor to the fundamental level. Think of it as a can that can hold so much charge, its absolute value. Every pulse to that can increases the charge by increasing the pressure of the charge and like wise every pulse from the can lowers the pressure of voltage. This device is in fact a voltage only device. No current could ever exist in the cap because that would be a short and that would destroy the cap. The only current in the cap is a leakage effect.

                      So from our own experiments the Parasitic plate or "o" is a clone of the voltage. We are indeed splitting the positive or cloning the voltage. This clone is not a perfect clone in the sense of the caps we were using. Prebuilt caps just won't or don't have the surface area we need or the correct orientation.

                      But if we make our own caps or three plate system then we can get the proportions right to amplify the voltage or to be exact make the clone as powerful as we need. Tesla showed us that surface area is the key. if you keep the storage plates balanced you can just insert the "o" plate into the storage area an induce the voltage to a higher value through that induction. Current means little in this case. Only the speed at which you put the pulses of voltage into the captret determines the value of the voltage out of the "o" plate. Then all we need to do is diode the "o" plate and loop it back to the source or load to increase the value of the source or the output value. Since we are only dealing with one aspect of the electrical spectrum "the voltage" resistance means little and is only used to control the speed at which the voltage travels. So resistance is the only modifying the speed aspect of the discharge and likewise capacitance dictates the discharge speed and the level of voltage in the other direction. This is exactly how a buck boost system works. Pulses sent to the cap fill the capacity of voltage and pressurizes the caps voltage. When we let it go it has a certain amount of force at the conduits resistance to conduct that voltage.

                      The link to the quantum physics is a new take and actually bridges the gap from quantum mechanics to the classical physics. He explains how things work and how all of the unexplained quantum pitfalls can be answered by very simple math.

                      Here it is:

                      Review: Anti-Gravity / Cold Fusion Explained In Detail: A New Era in Physics - PESWiki

                      Just bear with the series. It has very complicated stuff in there but the guy who is explaining it is very good at taking his time to teach you the concepts that will enable us to make this happen. Give the videos a try and see if by the time you get to part 10-14 that you now understand the process behind the capacitor.

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                      • I got video proof of a captret able to boost voltage above what the battery has in it. We can make voltage multipliers from captrets that use no amps.

                        I took a look inside of one of my capacitors and they're really simple. two metal plates separated by paper soaked in a electrolyte. And the case of the capacitor acts like another plate because the both plates are further sealed in another layer of paper soaked in electrolyte.

                        Makes me wonder what a 4 plate or 10 plate capacitor would do?
                        All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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                        • lets stick to simple at first...

                          Lets stay with the basics at first ok. If we can show an increase passively then we have done our jobs rofl... The rest will snowball out of control...

                          Can you post a diagram of the build you made? I want to replicate it...

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                          • How to build my basic homemade captret voltage amplifier.

                            take a pop bottle and remove the top.

                            remove pop bottle label

                            add 1 inch piece of aluminum foil around the entire outside of pop bottle.

                            add 4 inch piece of aluminum foil around the entire inside of pop bottle.

                            suspend a 1 inch piece of aluminum foil in the inside middle of pop bottle.

                            make sure each piece of aluminum don't touch.

                            add water into pop bottle.


                            Hook up the suspended middle aluminum foil to the positive of battery and the outside aluminum foil to the negative of the battery.

                            Check voltage of battery, record it.

                            Now hook up one your multi meter leads to the negative(outside aluminium piece) to the captret(the big inside aluminum piece) and keep the positive and negative hook ups to the battery still connected, and notice the higher voltage.



                            How is this like a step up transformer:
                            it increases voltage

                            How is this not like a step up transformer:
                            it only has 3 leads while a normal step up transformer has at least 4. So it must be running of the potentials, splitting of the positive??????
                            All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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                            • Fixed my leaking

                              from bigger caps.
                              I do test it atm with a 220µf and can kinda adjust it how much the Batterie drops.
                              I got actually 2x 9V and got total 17.27V right now, but it does not matter for the Circuit.
                              Just one thing at the Captret, i placed a bit tinfoil to the hull side.
                              It still causes, that the Led is brighter then directly connected to a Copperwire.

                              The 2 Pots i did add actually control the flow at the Plus side.
                              I started with R1, what is usually enough. The Diode is optional, but should make a greater flow to Plus,
                              and R2 is also optional, to control the brighness of the Led.
                              R1 is 10k R2 50K, but there should work any and higher.
                              And just thinking about it, it may should work to connect 5 leds parallel
                              and put a solar cell on it, even when it only works on crappy 20%,
                              but charging another Batterie with it, should show, that it can do OU.
                              Maybe.

                              --Edit--
                              Next Try now is placing R2 after Minus Captret before the Led,
                              what seems works good too.
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                              Last edited by Joit; 11-17-2010, 03:31 PM.
                              Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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                              • Originally posted by Joit View Post
                                from bigger caps.
                                I do test it atm with a 220µf and can kinda adjust it how much the Batterie drops.
                                I got actually 2x 9V and got total 17.27V right now, but it does not matter for the Circuit.
                                Just one thing at the Captret, i placed a bit tinfoil to the hull side.
                                It still causes, that the Led is brighter then directly connected to a Copperwire.

                                The 2 Pots i did add actually control the flow at the Plus side.
                                I started with R1, what is usually enough. The Diode is optional, but should make a greater flow to Plus,
                                and R2 is also optional, to control the brighness of the Led.
                                R1 is 10k R2 50K, but there should work any and higher.
                                And just thinking about it, it may should work to connect 5 leds parallel
                                and put a solar cell on it, even when it only works on crappy 20%,
                                but charging another Batterie with it, should show, that it can do OU.
                                Maybe.

                                --Edit--
                                Next Try now is placing R2 after Minus Captret before the Led,
                                what seems works good too.



                                yeah adding more to the captret surface for some reason makes it better voltage, i'm thinking of wrapping the outside with big pieces of aluminum foil.

                                I had the idea for the solar panel awhile back and it does work to extent but the LED's need to be super bright. To charge a 1.5 battery the solar panel voltage across needs to be higher than 3 volts in order for it to charge. But adding more surface to the captret may allow us to do this.

                                Also the LED needs to be white or blue to give best charging effect.
                                All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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