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  • Agreed!

    Originally posted by ibpointless2 View Post
    yeah adding more to the captret surface for some reason makes it better voltage, i'm thinking of wrapping the outside with big pieces of aluminum foil.

    I had the idea for the solar panel awhile back and it does work to extent but the LED's need to be super bright. To charge a 1.5 battery the solar panel voltage across needs to be higher than 3 volts in order for it to charge. But adding more surface to the captret may allow us to do this.

    Also the LED needs to be white or blue to give best charging effect.
    The surface area will be very very important. Also I believe white will be best because there is all the light spectrums in there. I checked on ebay and they have a ton of 100 bags to sell of the super high bright leds like I have. eventually we could move to the higher wattage leds like 1 watt or higher to haldle the burn off of the voltage. We might as well get some good effect of generating light while we are creating the vacuum of potential at the led. Later when we are more capable of using a high resistance load to create that outlet we can switch to motors and such...

    With this kind of system we could get away with cheap 12 volt panels and any charging we get from that would maintain the charge level of the battery since we are not using current from that battery. Kinda like a solar powered calculator works but we have a battery to contain the power. Right now capacitors leak to much to use them as batteries but there are some great battery technology out there that can provide greater capacities and less leakage then capacitors. Maybe is the Ultra caps come down more it would be advantageous to use them since most are now into the millions of times for cycles. Since we won't be going through any cycles to drain the battery they should last just about forever besides normal decay of the materials.
    Last edited by Jbignes5; 11-17-2010, 03:57 PM.

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    • bettr pic

      Originally posted by ibpointless2 View Post
      Here is my results so far with my latest captret circuit.
      [ATTACH]6930[/ATTACH]
      Can you please post a higher res picture?

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      • Originally posted by gmeast View Post
        Can you please post a higher res picture?


        Better picture is at overunity.com

        Captret - Capacitor and Electret
        All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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        • Oh and by the way....

          Originally posted by ibpointless2 View Post
          Better picture is at overunity.com

          Captret - Capacitor and Electret
          Capacitors were used in the tesla switch as well to isolate the source from the load.

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          • The proper way to get pulsed energy from this.

            Originally posted by gmeast View Post
            16 VDC, 60,000uF electrolytic
            9V NiMH Battery
            Red clip on DVM Common (black) is "o"

            393.5 mV: It's been floating around this number for quite a while.

            Perhaps a bunch of these in series can provide enough to charge a cap and flash an LED ... maybe.

            I will also run this without the "o" to see if the effect is REALLY just the Cap restoring itself (by whatever mechanism, as they already do without the "o")

            http://02d1852.netsolhost.com/radiant/big_cap.jpg

            Greg
            Charge the cap in the captret style. Let it run till the led dims quite a bit. Then take off all the clips and just hook the neg of the led to the case. Then tap each pole of the cap. If we could get a transitor to oscillate between the two poles I bet we could get a lot of pulses out of the captret. That is just from the non powered unit.

            We are working on a way to build the captret to a better amplification factor of just the potential of a battery and not it's current. Besides leakage that is. But we are currently using water. I bet this would change a bit if we used oils.. I am thinking the voltage leakage problem would be fixed if we used this like an old leyden jar but with the parasitic plate in there to gather the amplification effect. There are a lot of variables to look at in this kind of setup. Like distances of the plates to the parasitic plate and such like thicknesses of the plates and density of materials.

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            • Originally posted by ibpointless2 View Post
              I got video proof of a captret able to boost voltage above what the battery has in it. We can make voltage multipliers from captrets that use no amps.
              I found the below quote on Keelynet.com while researching electrets for another project from an article titled, Electrets for Power Q&A.

              Originally posted by Electrets for Power
              I can take a simple circuit that charges 2 capacitors in parallel from a dead battery and then connect the capacitors in series and discharges them back into the battery. Although no new energy is put into the battery some of the batteries potential chemical energy in the battery is converted and the battery will appear to be fully charged. The charging pulses from our controller (or the spark gap-coil) is closer to the double capacitor circuit than it is to a normal battery charger (DC).
              Likewise, the captret is more than likely closer to the double capacitor circuit than it is to a normal battery charger. I hope this is not the case. Lasersaber video clearly shows the capacitor/captret needs to be fed pulses of energy from a battery in order to keep the LED continuously lit. If the captret was producing more out than in, then the capacitor wouldn't need pulses of external energy from a battery and the captret would be self-sufficient. IMO, the captret is not self-sufficient at this stage, thus it's not OU, and any claims of such is misleading.

              The captret needs to be researched though. I posted information at overunity.com about negative impedance and it appears to have been ignored, which is of no surprise. It would be interesting to know how the captret would perform with some of the circuits contained in the negative impedance article. The information on negative impedance wasn't to try and explain the effect. The information was posted to improve and take the captret forward and into a new direction in hopes of making it self-sufficient. Let's not limit our thinking to only lighting LED's, but instead try to think much bigger.

              Revealing the Mystery of Negative Impedance

              Negative impedance converter




              GB

              "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, while expecting a different result".
              Last edited by gravityblock; 11-17-2010, 08:00 PM.

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              • Originally posted by gravityblock View Post
                I found the below quote on Keelynet.com while researching electrets for another project from an article titled, Electrets for Power Q&A.



                Likewise, the captret is more than likely closer to the double capacitor circuit than it is to a normal battery charger. I hope this is not the case. Lasersaber video clearly shows the capacitor/captret needs to be fed pulses of energy from a battery in order to keep the LED continuously lit. If the captret was producing more out than in, then the capacitor wouldn't need pulses of external energy from a battery and the captret would be self-sufficient. IMO, the captret is not self-sufficient at this stage, thus it's not OU, and any claims of such is misleading.

                The captret needs to be researched though. I posted information at overunity.com about negative impedance and it appears to have been ignored, which is of no surprise. It would be interesting to know how the captret would perform with some of the circuits contained in the negative impedance article. The information on negative impedance wasn't to try and explain the effect. The information was posted to improve and take the captret forward and into a new direction in hopes of making it self-sufficient. Let's not limit our thinking to only lighting LED's, but instead try to think much bigger.

                Revealing the Mystery of Negative Impedance

                Negative impedance converter




                GB

                "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, while expecting a different result".


                Lasersaber captret only needs pulses to keep the LED bright, he doesn't know how long it will run for when the LED is dim. The LED will stay lit for awhile, so long that lasersaber doesn't know becuase it takes awhile, but if you want the LED to be bright you must pulse it.
                All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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                • Ok now i'm starting to worry, Youtube is really trying to keep me from making comments to people on my videos. Anyone else experiencing this? Or Youtube really trying to censor me? I can post comments on others videos but not on my captret or free energy videos.
                  All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. - Arthur Schopenhauer

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                  • Btw

                    Originally posted by ibpointless2 View Post
                    Ok, you don't need to put salt into it you only need water. Salt might corrode the aluminium foil. Thanks electricity

                    The newest captret has a smaller negative on the outside and about the same size positive in the middle. The captret part is bigger then both. The voltage in battery is 5.38 volts, but negative to captret it goes up to 5.50 volts. So the bigger the captret foil and the smaller the negative and positive the higher the voltage.

                    This could be where the self charging is coming from, because you need higher voltage to charge and thats what the captret is doing.
                    Why dont you use Rainwater or Distilled Water, it should conduct better,
                    it is similar at making HHO.
                    Using Salt increase the conducting from Water also.
                    YouTube - Vergleich Leitfähigkeit Salzwasser-Leitungswasser
                    And at few Capacitors the Electret is a thin oxidated Layer.

                    It looks for me more like another Attempt to sproad missleading Informations from electricity.
                    Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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                    • I was under the impression that distilled water was less conductive than regular waters. Less particles in the water that actually do the conducting
                      Originally posted by Joit View Post
                      Why dont you use Rainwater or Distilled Water, it should conduct better,
                      it is similar at making HHO.
                      Using Salt increase the conducting from Water also.
                      YouTube - Vergleich Leitfähigkeit Salzwasser-Leitungswasser
                      And at few Capacitors the Electret is a thin oxidated Layer.

                      It looks for me more like another Attempt to sproad missleading Informations from electricity.

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                      • No go on the replication...

                        What i get is conduction of the positive through the water. Thats not what we need here. We must maintain an inductive coupling but not a conduction.

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                        • ionic conduction fluid

                          Originally posted by Joit View Post

                          It looks for me more like another Attempt to sproad missleading Informations from electricity.
                          sorry, meant to say induction

                          sodium chloride will consume all of your Al

                          no dis-info here,

                          why re-invent the wheel when it's already done for you by major corporations?

                          save time, adopt and move on.

                          anyone made a large captret yet?.
                          Last edited by electricity; 11-18-2010, 02:43 AM.

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                          • Captret powering Joule Thief

                            I'm testing a captret on some junk batteries with promising results, thanks to IBpointless2 and Jbig for encouraging me to test this phenominon more fully.


                            Here is my video showing it all
                            YouTube - automan812's Channel

                            Cheers

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                            • Now.....

                              Originally posted by automan View Post
                              I'm testing a captret on some junk batteries with promising results, thanks to IBpointless2 and Jbig for encouraging me to test this phenominon more fully.


                              Here is my video showing it all
                              YouTube - automan812's Channel

                              Cheers
                              I guess I got to make a jewel thief rofl...

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                              • Originally posted by redrichie View Post
                                I was under the impression that distilled water was less conductive than regular waters. Less particles in the water that actually do the conducting
                                Destilled Water has lesser Resistance then normal Water.
                                Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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