Captret - Perpetual Light with Dead Batteries

[Jbignes5]

This way...

How did you attach the Captret to your scope? If you let me know I'll replicate and film the results.

Just connect the ground to the negative post of the battery and the signal to the positive post of the battery. I wanted to see the batteries condition as the circuit operated.

[rave154]

This thread is hotting up nicely :-)

(and all on the same weekend as the "Convention of the 'Gods'...." )

[Jiffycoil]

I think my scope is too old to pick up the range you were in. I can get close to where your settings were and I get an 1/8 inch line with small ball or could be diamond shapes on end moving through the line. I so need to get a new O-scope.

[Jbignes5]

hmmm..

I think my scope is too old to pick up the range you were in. I can get close to where your settings were and I get an 1/8 inch line with small ball or could be diamond shapes on end moving through the line. I so need to get a new O-scope.

How far down can you detect? my lowest volts is .01 per cm... Does your scope have a tag telling it's mhz? Mine is 15 mhz max...

the scope I have is a bk precision model 1477...

By the way my newest setup with 4 caps is gaining voltage and is now 9.24 volts... Excellent I have a charger finally.

It seems that the more caps you add the stronger the whirlwind is in the circuit. This is a different kind of flow... There is no heating in the led which should be very hot by now and is cool to the touch (about room temp 70 degrees)....

[Jiffycoil]

My scope is from the 80's and it doesn't say. I was hoping I could help out. Down in the setting range you listed I get this.


Scope shot Captrec by jiffycoil, on Flickr

Edit: I just looked the model up TENMA 72-320 Dual Trace / 20 Mhz Oscilloscope.

[electricity]

Captret is an Oscillator

For anyone attempting my captret charger, you need to hook it up to a LED - spark cap first. This sets the cap in oscillation, then disconnect the LED and connect as in circuit.

What is a LED?.
It's a low voltage spark cap.

What is an electrolytic capacitor?
For those Linear thinkers, cut open a cap and find out.

What we have here is an oscillator, something else I found is that you can set up 2 batteries, 1 is 50% the potential of the other. This causes an energy pump.

This is Eric Dollard self charging vibrator (oscillator)

[Jbignes5]

hmmm...

My scope is from the 80's and it doesn't say. I was hoping I could help out. Down in the setting range you listed I get this.


Scope shot Captrec by jiffycoil, on Flickr

Edit: I just looked the model up TENMA 72-320 Dual Trace / 20 Mhz Oscilloscope.

You might say your scope needs adjusting. It look like it is way out of alignment. You should be able to see more then me at 20 mhz. Although the cap bank I am using doesn't respond quite as fast as my scope it the dc line looks like a serrated knife edge except much longer. When I look closer like lower the voltage per centimeter settings to .01 I see that the line is actually a sub micro pulses in the range of 8-10 mhz maybe more. Also if I look even further with the 5x zoom I got I see mist like ghosting around the pulses.

I checked a normal battery and I don't get this signal.

[Jiffycoil]

The alignment look is from my "Lens Baby " macro lens. Its used for taking funky some in focus some not photos. The scope reads fine. I have tested with my signal generator and it checks out. Not a good range clearly but it works. It is probably the Captrec setup I'm using. It is a big "Can" type capacitor 4 1/2 inch by 3 inch. Im running it without the LED and its charging the battery.

[ibpointless2]

A question for everyone.

When you make your captrets were they ever brand new-out of the wrapper-never charged?

Or where they used before, like taken from some old electrical component or used before in a previous experiments?

[electricity]

2nd Gen Captret - Perpertual Power Supply

You guys have to play with 2 battery setup. I have 9v and 18v set up with 4 x 250v 2200 uf captret and LED with small magnets attached on the side to quench the spark. Try different set up, one allows you to light 200 LED with no drain on the 2 batteries. What is going on?

[ibpointless2]

You guys have to play with 2 battery setup. I have 9v and 18v set up with 4 x 250v 2200 uf captret and LED with small magnets attached on the side to quench the spark. Try different set up, one allows you to light 200 LED with no drain on the 2 batteries. What is going on?

Be careful, i remember reading somewhere you don't want to connect two batteries with totally different voltages up, the higher voltage one charges the lower voltage one and will over charge it and cause it to explode or leak.

200 LED's? thats a lot. what do you mean different set up? do you have a diagram?

[plengo]

Captret - Capacitor and Electret

Fausto.

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I tried taking an scope shot of the positive of the "output" LEDs and negative and it is very difficult to see anything. My scope is a 20mhz. I also tried another analog scope 200mhz but nothing usefull (at least for me).

I noticed that there are some spikes that are so shart and fast that the scope has difficulty showing. In this picture is kind of visible right at the center of the scope. Noticed that I am using 10x probe for better sampling and it is at my maximum voltage division of 50mv.

The time division is at 5us. This is channel 1 (red line). I would say that this little visible spike can be high as 2 division marks making it up to 100mv but one must stay and watch the scope running with a lot of attention.

I would assume those spikes are simply an artifact of the real energy lighting the LEDs which may not be really measurable by this kind of electronic equipment. Sounds like a pure "Radiant Energy" phenomena, but hey, what do I know about it?!!!

Fausto.



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[electricity]

Be careful, i remember reading somewhere you don't want to connect two batteries with totally different voltages up, the higher voltage one charges the lower voltage one and will over charge it and cause it to explode or leak.

200 LED's? thats a lot. what do you mean different set up? do you have a diagram?

Anyone got schematic for Eric Dollard's Battery Vibrator?.

He has 12v and 24v set up with a vibrator.

I 'll try and find it, it's a total mess here

[broli]

My current setup which has two caps in "parallel" like seen below is going 24 hours straight without dimming the led. I didn't take note of the start voltage but I did when I just made the switch to the second circuit below it. I know the postive leads are not hooked but that's part of the experiment. Currently the voltage is at Vmax=7.99V and Vmin= 7.92V. These values are measured from my DSO with +-0.04V accuracy. I'll measure it again in ~12 hours.

[Trastos]

Dollard

Anyone got schematic for Eric Dollard's Battery Vibrator?.

He has 12v and 24v set up with a vibrator.

I 'll try and find it, it's a total mess here

Hi all,

like this?

http://www.energeticforum.com/109991-post47.html