Captret - Perpetual Light with Dead Batteries

[Groundloop]

@Magnethos,

>>Now the next step is building a "capacitive power source"

That is what I intend to do. I will have my new PCBs in a week
and the 1000 capacitors has already arrived.

See this thread at ou forum:
Captret - Capacitor and Electret

Groundloop.

[Magnethos]

thanks

@Magnethos,

>>Now the next step is building a "capacitive power source"

That is what I intend to do. I will have my new PCBs in a week
and the 1000 capacitors has already arrived.

See this thread at ou forum:
Captret - Capacitor and Electret

Groundloop.

Thank for the advice. I forgot that in ou.com this thread also exist.
I will post there also.

Here you've a document about Capacitors that recharge themselves (and how to make them. It's like an electret. We can study more this thing and extract some interesting data.
(eBook) - Free Energy - Capacitors That Recharge Themselves

But the first thing is to know if powering a load using the + and case connection can run the load without depleting the battery.
1) Charge the cap closing the Switch #1 (S1); the capacitor is charged. Disconnect from the battery.

2) Close S2 to run the load (small light bulb in this case). The energy stored in the 0 and + poles run the light bulb. In this process the main charge (+ and -) is intacted. But if you connect again the charged (+ and -) capacitor to the power source, then the captret poles (0 and +) will charge again without depleting the battery because the main charge (+ and -) is not discharged.

I think you can do this test using 2 relays. But the 2 relays need to be feeded from a secondary battery and let the main battery runnin only the caps. I have attached a schematic of what I've just explained.

[Groundloop]

@Magnethos,

Thanks for the links and drawing. I have been testing the CapTret
for a many days. I have found that by shorting out the + and - wires and
use the can (O connection), then I could short the CapTret as
many times as I like without depleting the voltage. This led to the
conclutions that capacitors really can't be depleted at all. There is
always a self charge present. So I desided to design a pcb that will
take 100 CapTrets in series. I will then put 10 PCBs in parallel to get
higher current. So in total I will modify 1000 capacitors and solder
them to 10 PCBs. I will post more when I have soldered the PCBs.

Groundloop.

[Magnethos]

@Groundloop

I don't fully understand your explanation. You say "... by shorting out the + and - wires and use the can, then I could short the CapTret as
many times as I like without depleting the voltage..."

You say that if you join the + and -, then you can short out the 0 and + as many times as you want?

[Groundloop]

@Magnethos,

Yes, that is what I'm saying. Look at the OU thread and look at the
circuit diagram and PCB layout I posted. Also see this drawing.



What I'm trying to test is if the self charging effect will last forever.

Groundloop.

[Magnethos]

@Groundloop

I've just posted in ou.com after a long time without adding posts there.
Have you made a video showing that effect? I mean, lighting a led using the described technique in your last post?

Another important question is if you've seen an increase in the intensity of the light while using 2 or more captrets at the same time. Let me know.

[Groundloop]

@Magnethos,

No, I have not made a video but I think that ibpointless2 did?
My intentions is to try to light a LED with my 1000 capacitor setup.
It will take some time to solder all the caps. I'm also waiting for
my new printed circuits boards. My first plan was to modify each
capacitor with a new wire and heat shrink tubing. I then decided just
to solder the capacitors to the PCB first and then use a L shaped wire
that I glue to the top of the capacitor with conductive glue. I think
this method will speed up the population of the boards. In any case,
I have to wait for the PCBs to arrive. So no progress or testing
for at least a week or two.

Groundloop.

[Magnethos]

@Groundloop
To light e led with your 1000 cap setup?
1000 caps are too much to light a led. Maybe you wanted to say light bulb?

And I have understood that you can to lit the led almost forever using the advanced captret configuration (shorting the wires) without seeing a decrease in the intensity of the light emitted by the led?

[Groundloop]

@Magnethos,

All I can say is that I will build the boards, test the boards, and then report
my findings here and at the other thread. It will take some weeks.........

Groundloop.

[Jbignes5]

To answer your questions...

Yes running the captret in parallel increases the flow capability of the captret. You have to understand that with the captret there is no regular current being used. It is pure voltage and in order for pure voltage to be powerful you need more of it. Take for instance my high bright led. It takes 3.7 volts and 20ma to get this to full brightness. on the captret it uses only voltage and has to have more of it to push with the same force. I have measured 6-7 volts from the negative plate when the power is shuttled through the positive and o of the captret. On a freshly shorted out captret if I hook the led to the positive and negative terminals I get enough voltage to light it about 1/2-3/4 bright or so. It is soo hard to tell with a led to what level they are lit by eye.

I have not looked into the series version yet as I was really busy trying to simulate what is going on in the captret with normally used parts. For which I have not been able to do yet fully.

[Magnethos]

more explanation

You have to understand that with the captret there is no regular current being used. It is pure voltage and in order for pure voltage to be powerful you need more of it.

It's needed to understand that you can perform work in 2 ways, depending if you use electromagnetic energy (transverse, conductive...) or longitudinal energy (Scalar, displacement, aetheric...).

If you use the longitudinal energy (the electric part of the electromagnetic wave) then you can perform "work". You don't need amperes to run a motor or to light a light bulb. This is a big mistake that is not fully explained in the schools. And remember, if you don't extract amperes from a power source then you can extract wattless energy almost indifinitelly.

[Jbignes5]

Oh yeah...

It's needed to understand that you can perform work in 2 ways, depending if you use electromagnetic energy (transverse, conductive...) or longitudinal energy (Scalar, displacement, aetheric...).

If you use the longitudinal energy (the electric part of the electromagnetic wave) then you can perform "work". You don't need amperes to run a motor or to light a light bulb. This is a big mistake that is not fully explained in the schools. And remember, if you don't extract amperes from a power source then you can extract wattless energy almost indifinitelly.

I am fully aware of the wattless energy and how to pull a potential and have it do work. The problem becomes how to apply that to a motor. In theory it works simplistically but in practice it is much harder seeing that you need a much higher potential to get the a fraction or the same of the amount of work out of it when compared to the amperage method.

[Magnethos]

Search for Tesla hairpin circuit in youtube and you'll see some demonstrations..

[Joit]

The problem becomes how to apply that to a motor. In theory it works simplistically but in practice it is much harder seeing that you need a much higher potential to get the a fraction or the same of the amount of work out of it when compared to the amperage method.

It maybe is, but i wanna say, that a Newman motor is something like this.
It is actually more moving Energy around, as really chase it through wires.
Relative thinner but long Wires, what are allways at the border from Saturation.
Actually you cant compare the arrangment with a normal Motor what we usual do know, what runs close at a short, but there are a lot of Forces created,
what plays within.

[Jbignes5]

hmmm...

Search for Tesla hairpin circuit in youtube and you'll see some demonstrations..

Thats motors?

@Joit absolutely