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  • #46
    Thanks Aaron, i admit to being waay too "US-centric"

    There are at least two Patent Applications for it in Europe.... this one has both Kanzius, and Dr. Roy's name on it.

    espacenet — Bibliographic data

    And the other with his wife's name on it as well as his

    espacenet — Bibliographic data

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    • #47
      get full document

      Big file!

      At espacenet, anyone can download the whole patent for free.
      Just click on ORIGINAL DOCUMENT tab and then to the left of the
      page number indicator, click SAVE FULL DOCUMENT - then enter the
      captcha deal and it will download in pdf.
      Sincerely,
      Aaron Murakami

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      • #48
        Now there is the rather obvious question for us to consider.

        Anyone want to guess what that question is?

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        • #49
          Is the Patent still original or 'revised' ??
          Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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          • #50
            Well that's a very good one Joit

            However the obvious question i was thinking of, is more along the lines of the technology as a whole.

            Sorry to be "cute": the question i was considering is this

            Why have we seen no replication attempts?
            Last edited by jibbguy; 12-21-2010, 03:19 PM.

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            • #51
              Well, i guess we are not going to see one either.

              BTW that Frequency of "13.56 MHz", oddly enough, happens to be the very same regulated F for RFID used in packaging labels and warehousing.

              So someone could save time and engineering by buying one of these to use as an oscillator "front end" that is then current amplified.

              13. 56 MHz. (HF) RFID Reader Writer w / LCD Display and Keypad products, buy 13. 56 MHz. (HF) RFID Reader Writer w / LCD Display and Keypad products from alibaba.com

              BROOKS RFID - RFID Reader HF 13,56 MHz

              (or a hundred other ones, starting at about $400 US)

              They usually have a nice HTML "GUI" that allows precise F control.

              !! BUT such a device must be heavily SHIELDED against radiating !!

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              • #52
                I think more that they protect the Frequency with other Devices,
                that noone can replicate something, what do disturb her Cardreaders,
                or else they can complain with an Attorny.
                I hate this Clowns.
                Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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                • #53
                  This reply from a Spokesperson at Penn State University, that confirms what they stated earlier:

                  Quoted from the Spokesperson:
                  ___________________

                  I checked with the Director of the Materials Research Institute. A Kanzius RF generator was brought to Penn State for a short period of time for demonstration purposes. However, the understanding between Penn State and Kanzius was that Penn State would have long term access to an RF generator for research purposes. This did not happen. The multiple research activities utilizing the RF generator as contemplated by Professor Roy did not materialize.
                  ___________________

                  End Quote.

                  So Penn State U is "in the clear"? Interesting. We will have to investigate this further

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                  • #54
                    Thanks Jib, another case that justifies the public's non profit research facility concept which now thanks to YOU we can make a bigger noise about. This technology would of never failed in our research center concept. INDEPENDENT , EVIDENCE BASED AND NON ALIGNED.

                    How many more cases where this type of technology hits the wall at a Uni (like focus fusion) do we need to make this point of requirement? Seems like some more my good friend. Conflict of interest, no informed consent, or SECURITY to make sure

                    I say we need ALTRUIST and a research center that is the MIGHT of altruism to get the job done QUICKER. Thanks again Jib gonna use this in the Steorn production.

                    Ash

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                    • #55
                      Yer welcome m8. And "Yes", we need that "Bricks and Mortar" Open Source Energy Institute, badly. What do you figure the cost to get one up and running there in Oz would be? 2 Million US?

                      Maybe we can catch someone red handed suppressing, and extort the cash from them That would be fitting and "fair" i think (only "partially kidding", i would never publicly call for anything illegal... although there's lots of ways to Extort that are "legal", just ask the International Banks... or my ex-wife lol).


                      Next, regarding the Penn State Kanzius situation, we will need some eye witness testimony from those who were involved. Workin' on it.

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                      • #56
                        Kinda off-topic but here are two interesting links today:

                        YouTube - Channel 4 News Exposes Swine Flu Scandal

                        ... and they called those who said the pandemic was a scam, "Dangerous"

                        And this about Rare Earths

                        U.S. concerned as China cuts rare earth export quotas

                        BTW my own research, has found that the near monopoly is really a consortium of JAPANESE mining conglomerates, along with the Chinese... NOT JUST the Chinese.

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                        • #57
                          Many of us are familiar with the story at PESWIKI about the inventor Bob Boyce, where there is hard evidence that he was illegally physically assaulted, with RFID chips implanted into his body without his knowledge or consent (that then caused cancer).

                          Here is ANOTHER inventor reporting the SAME THING (also with significant proofs):

                          Achieve Radio Archive Vault playing Cash Flow from 2010-09-21--1200

                          It could be important to note, that this guy's invention may not be involved with "Energy". Yet, it could be a danger to some corporation's continued market share nonetheless.
                          Last edited by jibbguy; 12-30-2010, 11:12 PM.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by jibbguy View Post
                            This reply from a Spokesperson at Penn State University, that confirms what they stated earlier:

                            Quoted from the Spokesperson:
                            ___________________

                            I checked with the Director of the Materials Research Institute. A Kanzius RF generator was brought to Penn State for a short period of time for demonstration purposes. However, the understanding between Penn State and Kanzius was that Penn State would have long term access to an RF generator for research purposes. This did not happen. The multiple research activities utilizing the RF generator as contemplated by Professor Roy did not materialize.
                            ___________________

                            End Quote.

                            So Penn State U is "in the clear"? Interesting. We will have to investigate this further
                            I think you will find it has been taken over by the US navy. The frequency has nothing to do with it, well not directly. 13.56Mhz is given by the FCC for many such things as a frequency that will not interfear with more important things.

                            By the way the navy want it for fueling their planes on their carriers as it can make fuel for them, and it is way over cop when done properly as professor Roy for sure found out.

                            Mike

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                            • #59
                              Thanks for the info Michael

                              Yes, it should certainly be possible to use this to create H to be stored, in the Patent and other documents a "standard steel screw driver blade" entering into the field was required to ignite the gasses coming off of it in some cases....

                              So it does not have to be a case of "spontaneous combustion".

                              Can you give us a particular reason why you suspect this was "secretized" for the Navy's use? I don't doubt it at all lol, just curious.

                              We already knew, that the latest Aerial Drones from Boeing use H as fuel.... with an engine from Ford that is a converted 4 cylinder ICE apparently using laser ignition.

                              Regarding the specific Resonant F of 13.56 MHz, it would apparently be reliant on the chemical composition of the water; from the Paper and Patent Applications where they test a whole spectrum of F's and differing compositions.

                              I am familiar with your nice thread regarding heterodyning two F's together to "shake apart" the water molecule; how do you see this "Kanzius single F" concept relating to that?

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Michael John Nunnerley View Post
                                I think you will find it has been taken over by the US navy. The frequency has nothing to do with it, well not directly. 13.56Mhz is given by the FCC for many such things as a frequency that will not interfear with more important things.


                                Mike
                                Anyhow i do doubt it.
                                There is so much Bandwidth what you can use, but they pick 'accidently' straight this one.
                                That actually really dont looks for me like a accidently taken Frequency.
                                Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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